Talk:Ezhava

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 31 March 2021

Lord Ayyappa got trained in the Kalarippayattu martial arts at Cheerappanchira Kalari that belonged to Ezhava tharavad in Muhamma, Alappuzha. 117.206.43.67 (talk) 07:50, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.
SSSB (talk) 08:44, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Maybe he thought about adding about Cheerappanchira. Image is available Cheerappan Chira Kalari,Room used by Lord Swamy Ayyappa when he was staying and training in this ancient Thiyyar Chekavar kalari,which trace their origin to Kadathanadu.Malikapurathamma worshipped at Shabarimala is from cheerappanchira

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:48, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Ok, I will explain , also I can see many requests to add ezhavar's old Kalari traditions below such as aloomootil etc. Let me explain this firstly , as you are all foreigners, you might not be knowing the Hindu god Ayyappan in Sabarimala. He is a warrior hindu god born in kerala and Sabarimala is one of the top pilgrimage site in India.

This great Hindu god Ayyappa trained and studied warfare from a Thiyya Kalari called Cheerappanchira. Since this great hindu god learned warfare and fighting from this thiyya kalari . it is notable to add in the page , which would be symbolising the Thiyya's kalari traiditon. Already a section is there called Chekavar in the page you can add this pic to it somewhere as an example, since we could not add all historical kalaris in this Wikipedia article but can add this one as an example.

Cheerappan Chira Kalari,Room used by Lord Swamy Ayyappa when he was staying and training in this ancient Thiyyar Chekavar kalari,which trace their origin to Kadathanadu.Malikapurathamma worshipped at Shabarimala is from cheerappanchira

Also please don't change the description of the image.

So all together, under chekavar section or somewhere near History (which says ,There are myths of origin for the Ezhava. According to some Malayalam folk songs like Vadakkan Pattukal[13][which?] and legend, the Ezhavas were the progeny of four bachelors that the king of Ceylon (Sri Lanka) sent to what is now Kerala at the request of the Chera king Bhaskara Ravi Varma, in the 1st century CE) you can add this pic to give a proof of thiyya kalaris

The image caption it is said Cheerappan Chira Kalari, Room used by Lord Swamy Ayyappa when he was staying and training in this ancient Thiyyar Chekavar Kalari, which trace their origin to Kadathanadu. Here the article says Thiyyas were from North Malabar and is sourced, then how it would be a Thiyyar Kalari even the Cheerappanchira article itself says as an Ezhava Tharavad located in Travancore? R.C^{Outlander07@talk} 13:42, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

They were from kadathanad area, present day vadakara. So it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.222.167.243 (talk) 13:52, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

As it is like a contradictory statement a reliable source would help better for the proposed changes. R.C^{Outlander07@talk} 13:59, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:32, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Ok, right. Please add this photo in the history section which shows ezhava ancient ezhava kalari tradition, for explanation please see above-posted things.

Cheerappan Chira Kalari,Room used by Lord Swamy Ayyappa when he was staying and training in this ancient Thiyyar Chekavar kalari,which trace their origin to Kadathanadu.Malikapurathamma worshipped at Shabarimala is from cheerappanchira

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. R.C^{Outlander07@talk} 15:52, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

few reliable source : https://www.mathrubhumi.com/spirituality/specials/sabarimala-2019/features/cheerappanchira-moolasthanam-malikappuram-1.4337851

https://www.newindianexpress.com/magazine/2015/jan/24/In-Memory-of-a-Warrior-Deity-709189.html

Why are you reverting the edit request status? R.C^{Outlander07@talk} 16:13, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

 Partly done: The provided source doesn't mention their Kadathanad tradition so the image caption has changed as apposite to the main Cheerappanchira article. R.C^{Outlander07@talk} 16:29, 11 May 2021 (UTC) R.C^{Outlander07@talk} 16:29, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

This one would serve the purpose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIOD9NUKvYM , watch from 3mins

From the stream 3:23, it is heard they taught the Kadathanadan Poozhi style to Lord Ayyappa and no mention was made of their origin. As it is a caste-related article a scholarly material will definitely serve the purpose rather than legendary newspaper articles and video documentaries.WP:RS. R.C^{Outlander07@talk} 07:50, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

The page is spreading misinformation. Chirappanchira is a panicker Ezhava family from southern kerala ,also the page dont speak about alumootil channar,varanappilly house ,muloor house etc . and is spreading misinformation . Worldofknowledge121 (talk) 07:18, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 May 2021 (2)

Lord Ayyappa was trained at Cheerappanchira, an Ezhava Kalari located at Muhamma, Alappuzha. Many ezhavas were soldiers in Royal service. 59.97.59.135 (talk) 16:56, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format also provide a reliable source for the changes. Outlander^07@talk 17:06, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Alummoottil Tharavad is an aristocratic Ezhava family hailing from the central Travancore region in Kerala. During the 17th and 18th century the Tharavad was responsible for supplying infantry and light cavalry for the army of the Maharaja of Kayamkulam and Travancore. Although, involved heavily in the military machinery of the kingdom, the business empire, wealth and assets of the Tharavad would rather have qualified it in the Vaishya sect, if it existed within Kerala's Chathurvarna ladder. 59.97.59.135 (talk) 17:09, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: You are asked to provide a reliable source for the changes to be made. Outlander^07@talk 17:14, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Could you please add these after checking the facts? Abhiram Chekavar (talk) 11:10, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

It is the responsibility of the person making the request to supply sources to verify their claims. These sources need to be provided before this request can be implemented. Additionally, where should this be added?
SSSB (talk) 11:25, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 May 2021 (4)

Alummoottil Tharavad is an aristocratic Ezhava family hailing from the central Travancore region in Kerala. During the 17th and 18th century the Tharavad was responsible for supplying infantry and light cavalry for the army of the Maharaja of Kayamkulam and Travancore. Although, involved heavily in the military machinery of the kingdom, the business empire, wealth and assets of the Tharavad would rather have qualified it in the Vaishya sect, if it existed within Kerala Chaturvarna ladder. http://alummoottil.com/home.htm#:~:text=Alummoottil%20Tharavad%20is%20an%20aristocratic,Maharaja%20of%20Kayamkulam%20and%20Travancore.&text=Sponsored%20by%20Ezhava%20Community. 59.97.59.135 (talk) 17:33, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:38, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 May 2021

The theory related to caste system in kerala regarding the Jain was wrong . The nairs are kshethriya they are not given shudra status Allow to edit such things Kailash1234 (talk) 13:13, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. R.C^{Outlander07@talk} 13:16, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

This wikipedia page is providing misinformation.and showing one sided things only

The page lacks proper information about notable ezhava personalities and is totally misleading Worldofknowledge121 (talk) 14:54, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

That's what the page List of Ezhavas is for. R.C^{Outlander07@talk} 15:23, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Misleading how? Unless you tell us why it is misleading/biased we can't help to improve it.
SSSB (talk) 15:51, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

This page is spreading misinformation and is dragging some other community into the plot

The page is spreading misinformation and is very misleading since it is not talking about ,impotant personalities of ezhavas ,instead is talking about some.imaginary figures from some other community without showing full facts . the page is purposefully trying to spread one sided contents ,and is defaming a community.we would have to move legally ,if it remains uncorrected . so i request the administrators to make suitable changes ,because the details of alumootil family ,etc was removed recently by some fake news pedrators and about some misleading people and instead misinformation is spreading . also this page dont talk about panickers a prominent community inside ezhavas . so in all cases this page is completely spreading one sided misinformations. I hope admins would make proper changes before faving further actions. Worldofknowledge121 (talk) 07:14, 2 July 2021 (UTC)