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== Analysis of sources for lead article (Please maintain and do not archive) == |
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Malhotra is a controversial character. I have analysed all the independent sources (not those written by the subject himself) in the following table so the lead paragraph can give a balanced reflection of what the sources say. As time goes on and there are new sources and new points to be made please add to the table. |
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|rowspan=7|Positive Notability |
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|rowspan=1|ST5002016 |
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|2016 |
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|Cardiologist |
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|Founding Action on Sugar<br /> |
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High Sugar<br /> |
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|rowspan=1|KF2015 |
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|2015 |
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|Cardiologist <br/> |
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Anti-obesity expert <br /> |
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Practicing NHS doctor <br/> |
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Highly respected public health campaigner |
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|Founding Action on Sugar<br /> |
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Reducing sugar<br /> |
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Sugar's role in T2D and obesity<br /> |
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|rowspan=1|Sustain |
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|2013 |
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|Cardiologist <br/> |
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Uses media profile <br/> |
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|Weaknesses of Responsibility Deal<br /> |
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Choc filled vending machines in hospital <br/> |
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Marketing of junk food to children <br/> |
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Advocate of sugary drinks duty<br /> |
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|rowspan=1|HSJ2013BME |
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|2013 |
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|Interventional cardiologist specialist registrar <br/> |
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Uses media profile <br/> |
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"Yes. He challenges people" <br/> |
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|Educate the public on health issues<br /> |
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against big corporations’ profit making at the cost of increasing health risks to the general public, particularly children <br/> |
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original research on the effects of sugar rich diets on obesity and heart morbidity/mortality <br/> |
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highlighted unhealthy hospital meals<br /> |
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calling for a ban on the sale of junk food in hospitals <br /> |
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|rowspan=1|HSJ2014BME |
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|2014 |
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|Honorary Consultant Cardiologist <br/> |
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Member of the Academy of Royal Colleges Obesity Group <br/> |
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"An upcoming star" |
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|ignited debate over diagnosis: doctors’ treatment of simple cases that bring “no benefit to the patients”<br /> |
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a culture of over-investigation” includes excessive use of antibiotics and imaging for non-sinister headaches <br/> |
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catapulting the BMJ’s “too much medicine” campaign into the media <br/> |
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|rowspan=1|EvStd2014Supersmart |
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|2014 |
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|Media Savvy Consultant <br/> |
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Science Director Action on Sugar <br/> |
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|too much attention has been on saturated fat, while the dangers of sugar have been under-stated<br /> |
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want to pressurise the Government to regulate the food industry to reduce the amount (of sugar) they’re spiking our food withs <br/> |
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excess sugar consumption increases the risk of heart disease and type 2 diabetes even in those of normal weight <br/> |
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|rowspan=1|ST5002016 |
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|2016 |
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|Cardiologist <br/> |
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founding member of Action on Sugar <br/> |
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|voicing concern at the effects of a high-sugar diet<br /> |
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|rowspan=4|Critics |
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|rowspan=1|ButterNonsense |
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|2018 |
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|Cardiologist<br /> |
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dissident scientist |
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|chlorestrol sceptic<br /> |
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statin critic<br /> |
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urges a low carb, high fat diet<br /> |
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|rowspan=1|sbm |
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|2020 |
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|British Consultant Cardiologist <br/> |
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statin denialist |
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|circular reference<br/> |
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This article quotes from WP article<br /> |
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Quotes from the WP article not included here |
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|rowspan=1|ARS Technica |
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|2017 |
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|Controversial UK Cardiologist <br/> |
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|high profile on media and television<br /> |
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advocate of high fat diets <br/> |
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written scores of editorials <br/> |
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Malhotra in person <br/> |
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discussing very particular points <br/> |
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Adding Missing biography and (re)structuring the rest
I came across this article when I tried to look up who this guy is and found the article was only stub class. Overall the article doesn't give the impression of being consistent with WP:N. Looking at the edit history, it appears that it started out as a stub with information derived from the subject's own web page and then others have tried to balance that up but it still doesn't look like that has resulted in a neutral POV. I thought I would have a go at fixing it rather than just reporting it.
I've added in missing background biographical information based on what sources I could find. I've slightly restructured by adding a new heading to split the biographical material from all the health campaign controversies. I plan to work on the controversies part next. I plan to put more sub-headings to split out the campaign/controversial topics. I will need to move some paragraphs so it ends up in a logical/chronological order, so I will need to do some cutting and pasting. Note I am not planning to delete chunks. For each sub-topic what I think it needs is to identify the campaign/controversy, then start by reference or summary of the consensus established position, then Malhotra's position and identify if he is a lone voice or pioneer in this or part of a group and if there is other support, then the criticisms. At the moment some of the article switches several times from pro to con and pro to con again on the same topic Viv Hamilton (talk) 15:53, 30 August 2021 (UTC).
- I have started work on the controversies section. Currently working on Pioppi Diet. I have more work to do. In particular the statement with the citation to ref 27 appears to constitute original research. However, I think there are secondary sources that should address the point of comparing Pioppi with the reference values. Viv Hamilton (talk) 12:07, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- I have finished work on the Pioppi diet section for the foreseeable future. I have restructured it as I described above: what is the consensus; what does Malhotra (in the book) say instead; are there others with the same view; what are the criticisms. I am now going to work on the next section on saturated fat, chlorestrol and statins and restructure in a similar way.Viv Hamilton (talk) 16:47, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
Requested support on the BLP Noticeboard
I have requested support regarding the reference to Duncan Selbie in the Dirty Tricks secton Viv Hamilton (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- Removed it as per discussion on BLP noticeboard, on grounds of undue weight to a single source [1], at least until additional material added.
- ^ "Tom Watson's diet doctor hit by government 'dirty tricks'". Times. 23 September 2018. Retrieved 4 December 2018.
- Noticeboard template removed - no further comments Viv Hamilton (talk) 17:26, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
Analysis of sources for lead article (Please maintain and do not archive)
Malhotra is a controversial character. I have analysed all the independent sources (not those written by the subject himself) in the following table so the lead paragraph can give a balanced reflection of what the sources say. As time goes on and there are new sources and new points to be made please add to the table.
Source Type | Source | Year | Personal words | Ref to work |
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Positive Notability | ST5002016 | 2016 | Cardiologist | Founding Action on Sugar High Sugar |
KF2015 | 2015 | Cardiologist Anti-obesity expert |
Founding Action on Sugar Reducing sugar | |
Sustain | 2013 | Cardiologist Uses media profile |
Weaknesses of Responsibility Deal Choc filled vending machines in hospital | |
HSJ2013BME | 2013 | Interventional cardiologist specialist registrar Uses media profile |
Educate the public on health issues against big corporations’ profit making at the cost of increasing health risks to the general public, particularly children | |
HSJ2014BME | 2014 | Honorary Consultant Cardiologist Member of the Academy of Royal Colleges Obesity Group |
ignited debate over diagnosis: doctors’ treatment of simple cases that bring “no benefit to the patients” a culture of over-investigation” includes excessive use of antibiotics and imaging for non-sinister headaches | |
EvStd2014Supersmart | 2014 | Media Savvy Consultant Science Director Action on Sugar |
too much attention has been on saturated fat, while the dangers of sugar have been under-stated want to pressurise the Government to regulate the food industry to reduce the amount (of sugar) they’re spiking our food withs | |
ST5002016 | 2016 | Cardiologist founding member of Action on Sugar |
voicing concern at the effects of a high-sugar diet | |
Critics | ButterNonsense | 2018 | Cardiologist dissident scientist |
chlorestrol sceptic statin critic |
sbm | 2020 | British Consultant Cardiologist statin denialist
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circular reference This article quotes from WP article | |
ARS Technica | 2017 | Controversial UK Cardiologist |
high profile on media and television advocate of high fat diets | |
Comment | Not all articles describe Malhotra in person |
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