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:{{tq|Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the [[Help:Talk pages|talk page]] of the article in question if an article exists.|q=y}}
:{{tq|Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the [[Help:Talk pages|talk page]] of the article in question if an article exists.|q=y}}
:Whatever you say your motivation was, the changes will remain reverted for now. – [[User:Njd-de|NJD-DE]] ([[User talk:Njd-de|talk]]) 13:33, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
:Whatever you say your motivation was, the changes will remain reverted for now. – [[User:Njd-de|NJD-DE]] ([[User talk:Njd-de|talk]]) 13:33, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

== Lahore Grammar School - edits removed ==

Hi Njd-de,
Just wanted to ask why my edits were removed from the page 'Lahore Grammar School'? The information posted was not defamatory or libellous as this is what occurred, as outlined by various news sources, including MangoBaaz and Pakistan Today. A response as soon as is convenient would be much appreciated.
---- AHK

Revision as of 19:04, 6 January 2022

Thanks for your advise on TIME page

Hi Njd-de,

Thanks for your message regarding the modification that I've tried to made on TIME page. I've cited a reliable reference. I hope it will works.

Best, Benjamin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jiben38 (talkcontribs) 16:07, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Njd-de

Hello! Thanks for the note. I appreciate you reaching out, I hadn't seen a reason for every single one of my edits being removed, so I am happy to see that someone reached out! I share the same perspective as you regarding neutral writing, hence the reason I softened the rather opinionated, unattributed, strong language labeling someone a conspiracy theorist without citing articles or research. The rather opinionated text that found its way into an encyclopedic text should not lead with labeling someone a QANON supporter, without some attribution. The previous text, in my view, was rather problematic, as it was labeling someone a whole slew of things, rather than objectively/neutrally sharing information and allowing the reader to click on links and do further research. You'll note I did not say she was not a conspiracy theorist, as I don't think anyone is qualified to do, but rather say she has been labeled/critiqued/called a particular thing, and leave it to the reader to decide. In my view, and I'm a longtime Wikipedia lover, Wikipedia is not designed to share its opinion about any one or thing, it is meant to share attributable information, and allow the reader to do her/his/its own further research and reach its own conclusion. It is not neutral to say someone is a former doctor, conspiracy theorist, Qanon supporter and looney and expect the reader to objectively reach their own conclusion. Hence the reason I softened the language and took out the more extreme text to allow the reader to reach their own conclusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lknlp (talkcontribs) 18:25, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WarnerMedia Direct and Warner Horizon shows

Hello a user named Imtiaz.kazi3 is adding Hacks, Pretty Little Liars, Pretty Dirty Secrets and Generation onto the Warner Bros. Television Studios section on List of WarnerMedia television programs article so can you add warning to the user please and removed the four shows out of the Warner Bros. Television Studios section on List of WarnerMedia television programs? 85.255.233.205 (talk) 14:56, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi *.205, I am not entirely sure what the scope of List of WarnerMedia television programs is, and what the exact issue is. Even the Pretty Little Liars article says that WBTV is the distributor. Maybe I am missing something here.
In any case, if you have the impression that someone is vandalizing an article, then go ahead and revert the edit. You can find the warning templates at Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace. – NJD-DE (talk) 15:04, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I know but Hacks, Blade Runner: Black Lotus and Generation are not produced by Warner Bros. Television. That's why is unsourced so can you remove them on List of WarnerMedia television programs? 85.255.233.205 (talk) 15:20, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's an article in which of the programs is owned by WarnerMedia or not. 85.255.233.205 (talk) 15:21, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

MSAgent update for Windows8/8.1+

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/how-to-install-microsoft-agent-in-windows-8-x64/97737a87-510d-4043-9048-b2cc562a872f - This url was recently added to the MSAgents page but was taken off. It was added to compliment the information regarding MSAgents on Windows 7. The update is free of charge and made available via a Microsoft forum. So it's a legitimate update for Microsoft Windows 8/8.1+. Please add it to the page for the benefit of Wikipedia users. I am personally using the update on Windows 11. It's for 32bit and 64bit Windows. I'm using 64bit Windows. It works fine using DeskBot freeware program. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.50.216.103 (talk) 11:00, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In order to keep this discussion in one place, I have replied to you at Talk:Microsoft_Agent#MSAgent_update_for_Windows_8/8.1+. – NJD-DE (talk) 11:33, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just a few questions

Hello Njd-de,
Hope you have seen my recent activities and get the reason I am looking for.
It was quoted that, "If the link is keeping you from editing Spacious, you can make a whitelist request so that the corp link can remain there"
So is it possible now?
There is no reason to believe it will be spammed again to articles. It was just a mistake. With due respect to the Wikipedia rules, it will never happen in the future.
And if I disclose it to MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#spacious.hk then can I get any help to get away from this trouble?

Thanks,
Mahfuj. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MahfujNahid (talkcontribs) 21:05, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand which trouble you are referring to, MahfujNahid. The URL is blacklisted, and there's no need for this to be changed. In any case, please keep things in one place at MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#spacious.hk. – NJD-DE (talk) 21:41, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Avant un Rêve

Hello, how are you? Thank you for your interest in my article about the album Avant un Rêve. May I ask you why you have removed it? Is it for editing, or another purpose? Thank you in advance for your reply. AnnSo Ma — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnnSo Ma (talkcontribs) 10:51, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello AnnSo Ma, the article created on Avant Un Rêve by PrinceofJazz was not ready to be published in article space. It needs references that demonstrate significant coverage in reliable sources. You can improve the article in draft space at Draft:Avant Un Rêve, and submit it for review once you think it's ready. – NJD-DE (talk) 11:02, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of interest response

Apologies for not noticing the request for an explanation before proceeding editing the article for "Automobilista 2". I am not editing the content itself if you review diffs. I noticed that the collapsed sections do not work correctly in mobile, everything was under "Development". I am not being compensated for this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArtVandelayImportExport (talkcontribs) 13:35, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi ArtVandelayImportExport, no worries. Thanks for reaching out to me, and clarifying that you are not being compensated for the edits. Please note that a COI can also exist without financial interests/compensation. Also if you would be employed by the game studio and not receiving compensation for the edits, you would still be considered as a paid editor. And btw any edit - even without actual content change - is considered as editing the article. Anyways, happy editing! – NJD-DE (talk) 13:40, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Understood, thanks for the clarification! It is indeed a bigger grey area than I thought at first. Having reviewed the COI guidelines, I can see where this is coming from. After seeing the article being filled out by community, my own judgement simply did not think a simple heading structure and HTML clean up for better readability (more "Wiki-like") would be a problem and thought I'd help out a bit. But it is indeed best if I don't here and on some other impacted articles. After your last edits I can understand what the big revert was about as well, and it's readable on my mobile browser. I shouldn't have interfered with that in the first place. I will note my COI status if I take part in talk page discussion concerning impacted articles, but by definition I am indeed not a paid editor. So can we consider this matter closed? Either way happy holidays! ArtVandelayImportExport (talk) 17:41, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I am glad to hear you reviewed the guidelines. Unfortunately, not many do. I'm sorry that my revert undid your attempt at making things more readable for mobile browsers. If I didn't yet, then would like to express a belated welcome to Wikipedia. In case you come across any questions, feel free to reach out to me, or ask one of the other experienced users at the teahouse. Happy holidays to you too!! – NJD-DE (talk) 18:16, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, I understand that it's the nature of co-creation. Thank you for the kind welcome! No need to respond, we can end this thread. :-). ArtVandelayImportExport (talk) 19:01, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

AMS 2 page

Dear Njd-de,

I wanted to write a better page for AMS 2. With 100% objective. No subjective stuff, good sources, no opinions, no nothing. Just 100% how it is. With good, bad and neutral things. But I seems you think I am COI. Perhaps I should have chosen my username better. Not smart of me. I can live with deleting of changelogs, but not with removing game modes, features, ca and track-roster and the reception. I am sad. I put hours in it in the layout, being 100% objective and eventually people started to noticing the AMS 2 wiki was updated and started to add more things, like Carguy whom surprisely added better sentences due his English-skills. I also compared wiki pages like rFactor 2, ACC, AC, etc and 'mine' AMS 2 and they were all similar. With similar sections and senctences. Also they feature car-and track roster as well, so why AMS 2 wiki page not?

I wrote something on my userpage.

I wish you a merry Christmas,

Marius — Preceding unsigned comment added by MariusAMS2 (talkcontribs) 15:07, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MariusAMS2. Of course you can include more information, e.g. about features. We need independent, reliable sources for them though. – NJD-DE (talk) 18:12, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Njd-de Thank you. For example, AMS2carinfo is an independent source. It has all the cars that are in the game, etc. These info about features, car and tracks are not written in books nor in newspapers. Since Racing simulation is a niche it's often reviewed and recorded on youtube or twitch by people, since that's not allowed I can't use that either. I tried to find my best to use the best sources, etc. It's hard to find good source for such a niche game, other than some webistes and the official website of the developers / game. I just want to make a similar wiki page for AMS 2 that looks like the generic gaming wikipages all over wikipedia, but I want to do my best to stay 100% objective. Just summing up the roster, cars, new updates for these stuff, a neutral reception and refraining from words and sentences that beautifying the game or developers. If I compare AMS 2 wiki page I made (so without the changelogs) to rFactor 2, Assetto Corsa, etc the difference is huge because those pages are do have biased fanboyism, and make the games seems more positive than they are. Currently I am awaiting a username change, because I am not working nor paid by Reiza Studio's. My username was not a cleverthing to pick.
Thank you for reading! I hope we can coooperate and make this wiki page even better than before.
MariusAMS2 (talk) 18:25, 18 December 2021 (UTC)MariusAMS2[reply]
Changing your username is not a bad idea. Will definitely avoid some confusion! Regarding ams2cars.info I'm afraid it falls under the category of user generated content, and thus not considered a reliable source.. – NJD-DE (talk) 18:36, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Vihland

I know I should not be surprised by now but sometime I say in my head "WOW....really????". S0091 (talk) 01:40, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's one of these times when I don't know whether to laugh or cry... Unfortunately, sometimes Wikipedia and my corporate job aren't too different. Maybe I'm crazy but I enjoy both of em. Anyways, I was just about to post this message when I noticed they created an unblock request. So S0091, which advertising did you see? :D – NJD-DE (talk) 01:53, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well, Njd-de, You can not make decisions based on what your brain believes is true. so not now I am not sure. Hmmm.... :) S0091 (talk) 02:02, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If my brain believes this to be true, can it then decide to no longer make decisions based on what it believes true? I'm afraid my brain doesn't know how to proceed other than ignoring their helpful advice. – NJD-DE (talk) 02:22, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hey I got your mail

I’m sorry I didn’t respond there, The reason is detailed in this essay. There was nothing wrong with your response, (IMO) the problem is, certain types of wiki coding affect our MediaWiki software in very unique ways. Whilst I dislike coding, I’m fairly proficient in coding in (Wikipedia Language), I really do not know how that new editor came across that sort of coding, Infact I was having dinner when I came across the question and literally choked, as I wondered how a new user knew to use that sort of coding. Celestina007 (talk) 15:03, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah no worries, totally understand it. I was extremely surprised as well to be honest when I saw them trying to use these magic words, but it's not the first time I see that. For some reason this goes along with the misconception that Wikipedia is a webhost, and these users always believe that by using such magic words their article will show up on Google as search result #1 instantly. I don't know where they have this from but it doesn't work anyway. As far as I remember the index magic word and the corresponding template do not work in draft or user space, and only work in article space if the article is patrolled or exists longer than 90 days. – NJD-DE (talk) 19:59, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

AIV

Sorry for the edit conflict there. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 23:50, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No biggie. What matters is that someone will take care of them at AIV. Thanks for reporting them as well, Royal Autumn Crest! – NJD-DE (talk) 23:53, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!

Thanks for the comments. I appreciate your work, I don't see the reasons to remove all my amendments and additions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lavocedelcoro (talkcontribs) 00:06, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Lavocedelcoro. I reverted your edits, as I didn't see any inline references to reliable sources. This article is in a bad shape already, and we shouldn't add more improperly sourced content on top. – NJD-DE (talk) 00:29, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

About the edits you reversed

Hi, am not sure how I am supposed to respond to your notification, but I wanted to ensure you that the articles I have linked are not biased and my only motivation is to inform the public. It is simply information from a journal which offers free evidence-based peer-reviewed research. I hope the changes are kept, thank you. Olga Nottmeyer (talk) 13:14, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Olga Nottmeyer. The message on your talkpage is quite clear, and it should be quite simple to respond to it as well. Quoting the two probably most important sentences of my previous message:
Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation.
Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists.
Whatever you say your motivation was, the changes will remain reverted for now. – NJD-DE (talk) 13:33, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lahore Grammar School - edits removed

Hi Njd-de, Just wanted to ask why my edits were removed from the page 'Lahore Grammar School'? The information posted was not defamatory or libellous as this is what occurred, as outlined by various news sources, including MangoBaaz and Pakistan Today. A response as soon as is convenient would be much appreciated.


AHK