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PP

I believe you wanted to find out which party the PP was? Well i'm sure you'll be able to find it at http://elections.uwa.edu.au/partysearch.lasso - my guess is that it could be the Progress Party, who ran in the 1977 WA HoR election? Timeshift 20:51, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah, awesome. :) Since it's WA I checked the Battye and sure enough [1] Might try looking at this today - going photo hunting today :) Orderinchaos78 22:32, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Did it last one election only? SatuSuro 12:18, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Appears to have - it didn't run in 1980. I've yet to check State elections to see if it ran there, but from the stats I have for the northern suburbs, it would appear not. Orderinchaos78 12:29, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Eglinton

Regarding the text:

Prior to European settlement, Noongar Aboriginal people had lived in the area for more than 40,000 years, taking advantage of the abundant food and water around the chain of wetlands on the coastal plain. In winter, they moved eastwards away from coastal weather, to return in summer as inland supplies dried up. The Mooro people (led by elder Yellagonga during the early years of European settlement) stretched from the Moore River near Guilderton to what is now the Perth central business district, and used to move between Lakes Joondalup, Neerabup and Yanchep. Local legend is that Pipidinny Swamp was created from the blood and meat of the crocodile's tail that settled here. The part of the stock route between Joondalup and Yanchep is now part of the Yaberoo Budjara Heritage Trail, part of the Bicentennial Heritage Trails Network established in 1988.[2]

You might want to look at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian history#Request for comment. In summary: trim the pre-settlement stuff considerably and provide a

Main article: Noongar

Hope this helps Garrie 02:01, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I had another look. You had it so, prior to Perth being created, aboriginal australians lived in the Perth metro area. I tweaked that a bit but I'm still not happy.

Someone is going to want a solid reference that Australian Aboriginals lived in what is now this suburb for 40,000 years. I don't know about WA but over this side of the island they were a bit more nomadic than that - the tribe that lived around here, covered that much of a range that the wording is more like What has become the suburb of XXXX was a part of the range of the Dharug people for as much as 40,000 years before european settlement.

no matter what is put there it's a bit tricky so it's best to handwave but direct people to a more encompassing article for the article for the right Aust Aboriginal people, pre-european settlement. Garrie 10:04, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

My advice: Talk about geographical features that are tied to aboriginal history (the river, scar trees, archaeologically discussed sites etc), which happen to be in the current suburb boundaries. Don't talk about European place-names, in pre-european history (provide an equivalent place name afterwards in brackets to help modern readers locate themselves). If you know aboriginal place names, so much the better (even better if you know the aboriginal place name as it was at the time of european settlement. But there is a lot of handwaving that whitefellas were never told true placenames anyway, whatever that means. So have good citable references - the WP:V beats allegations of the truth eventually.Garrie 09:54, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

email

you will have (borat speak) SatuSuro 13:12, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Roads thingo decision is done - SatuSuro 14:58, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2007/January/12 the result of the debate was.... SatuSuro 15:06, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

There on the watchy screen this thing climbs up - its good old awb! SatuSuro 15:30, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Perth --> WA

I thought it was going to be a tricky one to close, but it seemed that general consensus was to rescope. I've renamed the template and the category, and I was just about to work on getting all the articles to use the new template name. Thanks for fixing the template wording, because I would have forgotten about that. Have a great day and happy editing! ~ Amalas rawr ^{=^_^=} 15:24, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Property values

DYK that there was a concerted effort including council members to change the name of Solomon Street. Can you guess why? BelieveItOrNot I have a reasonable ref for this. Do you have room in your articles for curious little bits of info like this. Also, there are roads named Shakespeare very close to eachother. Just passing, e soon Fred 02:46, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Agree, there a sceptical position that states that all knowledge is just gossip, more or less accepted. So it goes. The reason why I shy from inclusion is one I asked you to guess. Perhaps it is better not to drag it up. Fred

Road template

What you said... Thanks —Moondyne 08:38, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Maritime

I would like some help to do a maritime history members thingy, and a maritime stub template - are you up to it? SatuSuro 09:28, 20 January 2007 (UTC) Thanks - I'll create a subpage off my user page - it will be obvious - and trying to stay off most of tommorrow if possible - SatuSuro 09:35, 20 January 2007 (UTC) Hasnt happened - will email tonight off most today SatuSuro 01:32, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Still hasnt happened - if you could make a user thingo stub template things - it would be fantastic - going around in circles today dont know if I'll get some stuff done before Im gone...SatuSuro 04:42, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Aquinas College

Your edits are very good and important to the future of the article - can you please do the middle and senior school sections in the same way that you did the junior school section - please note that i added a lil info to the junior school bit about sport - it may be a little tacky - edit it if you want. thanks Smbarnzy 16:45, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Mate, you are doing a bang up job =) - I think the major problem with this article is that it just wasnt written well (im mostly to blame) and the layout was maybe suffering a bit too. Thanks so much for what you're doing :) and what are u doing up @ 2am O.o? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Smbarnzy (talk • contribs) 16:53, 20 January 2007 (UTC).

haha! damn thats funny! **wipes tear** what other kind of stuff do u do on wikipedia? and what do u do in the 'real world' Smbarnzy 17:32, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

shit! so u didnt just join here for one or two articles like me O>O well man, ive done a few too many edits for tonight - should go to sleep - its nearly 3am - and i have to do shit 2morow =( nice talkin to u. BarnZy. Smbarnzy 17:51, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Questions, questions...

1. Absolutely fine. Copyright covers expression of information, not information itself. You can use the information in a book freely, but you have to express it in your own way: i.e. you can't copy it word for word. Same thing for maps. You can use the information in a UBD map freely, but have to express it in your own way. Of course, your map will look basically the same as the UBD's, but that would be because maps are heavily constrained by reality and convention, not because you copied. This is a key point: there is no obligation to make your map look different from theirs, so long as you can honestly attribute the sameness of the maps to something other than unfair copying. For example: the roads will all be in the same places, because their positions are constrained by their geographical positions on the earth; the maps will be oriented the same way because both maps follow the convention of having north at the top; the colour schemes will be similar, because both maps follow certain widely accepted colour conventions such as having light green for parkland. However, it is a good idea to make your map distinctly different where there is scope to do so. e.g. make your legend icons different.
2. I was thinking about this too. Not just geology but also flora and fauna and any other stuff that is relevant to the area. Leave this with me for a while; I'll think about it and get back to you.

Hesperian 04:53, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: copyright, I think the above makes sense, but I thought of a better way to explain it. The map information isn't copyrightable, but the map symbology is. So without looking at the UBD, decide on your map symbology: whether/how to represent different kinds of roads, how thick and what colour your road lines will be; what icons you'll use, what land classes you want to represent and how to do so, etc. You are then free to apply your original symbology to the UBD map, and call it your own work.

I've got an idea for a ==Natural history== section, to include geology, original vegetation, flora, fauna, etc. I'll whip something up tonight.

Hesperian 07:41, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I like the "Blissett/Wanneroo, through low level bush" option. Hesperian 10:38, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

IMG_4690 has the best representation of scale, but Blissett/Wanneroo. A very tricky subject to photograph. Fred 12:25, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Would there be any problem with both? I'm getting about equal responses to them, but just want to make sure I'm not spamming pictures on the thing. :P I'll take some photos over that way tomorrow morning to make best use of the light. Orderinchaos78 12:43, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

We are in for a long year..

Yeah I agree with you, and thanks for replying to me, greatly appreciated! Its January now, who knows how long it could take. Lets hope sooner, rather than later. By the way, nice to finally communicate with you, I have seen you around the place quite a bit, but I never really had a reason to just say "Hi". So hi! :P --Ali K 06:26, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Image:Hamersley-benjafield and tower 2.jpg

I did a quick edit to Image:Hamersley-benjafield and tower 2.jpg removing the power line that crossed the sky and topped the tower, hope you dont mind please revert if you dont like Gnangarra 13:44, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Hamersley opening

Not sure about the use of the word "entities". Perhaps landowners or speculators. That's a bit trivial TBH and its OK as is. Good work. —Moondyne 14:06, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Natural history

I added a natural history section. I stuck it at the top because it seemed to precede the history section chronologically. I suspect this is too prominent a position. I'll leave you to re-arrange to your heart's content. I am happy to take responsibility for blueing the numerous redlinks. And I'll ask Rollinator to review the geology paragraph. Hesperian 02:18, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

One thing that would rather change the situation is if there are or were seasonally wet areas. These would have had a different vegetation, mainly Melaleuca. You haven't come across any suggestion that any of the suburb was swampy land that was infilled or drained, have you? Hesperian 03:03, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Remaining vegetation bears including. Burnt out is fine: native vegetation is adapted to regular burning. The rectangle is significant; what is that, 10% of the suburb?

Hesperian 03:07, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Hamers ley

Some preference and comment:

• Crop the photo in info box to reduce lawn. It is a little bit Andrew Wyeth [2]
• Is it possible to match colour of results in Politics box to something like the infobox. Personal taste.
• Increase weight of line at top and left of same. I don't even know if this is possible.
• Benjafield image to right (default?). Breaks headings, in my browser.
• No room to list all the things I like about article. It should become a great model for similar ones. Regards, Fred 14:15, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Rating of Eglinton

Pleasure to be involved. I love reading articles like this - much better than the proloferation of stubs about suburbs. Great work ! I'd love to see this rated a Good Article - Peripitus (Talk) 20:35, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to the AMA!

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More Hamersley

I reckon (and hope) Waterfall Gully would fail if it went for FAC now. Referencing standards have gone up. The politics section reeks of OR (even if obvious and uncontroversial) and doesn't have a single citation. I think you should state just the facts; if no political analyst has ever gone on the record to say "hey everyone, check out Hamersley's weird voting record!", then Wikipedia shouldn't be the first to declare it unusual/intriguing.

I'm being a bit of a hypocrite here though. I have on occasion pushed the limits of my sources in order to pull together a narrative that is a bit more meaningful than just the facts. e.g. most recently the first paragraph of the Ecology section of Banksia epica. If you're going to push the limits here, at least take great care not to say anything that anyone might disagree with.

Hesperian 11:57, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

It's still a valid source, even if it is hard to get hold of. If you can't shoehorn it into any of the standard citation template, then just do your best freehand; something like:

Australian Bureau of Statistics (1996), Basic Community Profile: Hamersley.

Hesperian 12:21, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Email received but not replied. Sorry to kill the conversation, but I'm about to log off and go on Wikibreak for a week. Talk to you when I come out the other end. Hesperian 12:30, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Hmm...

zzz	This user is currently asleep after a long day. Messages will be replied to only after this user has had an aspirin.

Wagerup

Hi. I saw your reversion of the somewhat questionable changes made by an IP address on the Wagerup article. I was reading the West Australian this morning, and in the Inisde Cover section, they ran a report on it. They actually traced the IP back to Alcoa itslef!

Thought you might be interested--M W Johnson 02:57, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

And what a dubious article with a misleading take that was! They should never cast a stone - they cannot even bring themselves to cite sources for their international wire stories... Nah send them back to writing stories about crooked politicians. One reversion, bah...give the bored journos a proper edit war I say (from Bunbury)SatuSuro 10:47, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Hamersley, Western Australia and the quest for FAness

Love to help - I'll have a look through this weekend and'll help where I can. If you have anything specific drop me a line - Peripitus (Talk) 10:20, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

ISBN for Charles Whitham

Lovely stoty that, was going to giv you the low down whn I gt back (The last archive I did I think its in there - succesully bad mouthd from at least one but hlped by another) - I had about 40-50 articles citing whithams book - and I had brought th 2003 copy in queesntown last june/july in Strahan - some very clver bunny typist in qunstown had typd a number but not the full number - and I have been hounded by th wikipdia isbn police ver sincce - got help from th riendly one who hlped with the Charles Whitham article as a way around the issue - if you check my contrib history rom the day beore I logged off for down here - you can see how I was copying th info to the arts.... Cheers SatuSuro 11:39, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

SatuSuro mentioned...

Hi there. SatuSuro mentioned at my talk page a Wikipedia related story in your local rag. Would you have a link handy so I can take a look? He's on a break now so isn't able to land a finger on it. -- Longhair\^talk 11:46, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah sorry about that. I was offline for a moment reading another (longish) email. I was just about to send you my email address :) Back offline for some more reading now I guess, thanks for that. -- Longhair\^talk 13:51, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

An interesting article. Certainly worth a mention at Wikipedia:Wikipedia in the media. Thanks for the keyboarding effort also :) -- Longhair\^talk 13:58, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Begin your wiki-wishlist for an OCR scanner. You'll need your fingers later in life :) -- Longhair\^talk 14:14, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the email from me also. I'll keep my $1.20. —Moondyne 15:37, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank heavens I have a very good scanner.... :( SatuSuro 06:10, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Either the universe, wikipedia server, or I am really in a Dr Who serial after all - or your computer has a date issue - either way I need a screen shot of the wagerup talk page - it is worthy of wikipedia history! SatuSuro 09:53, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Checkout the mug at wagerup, then my missives at his talk page and then I'll have an email for you SatuSuro 12:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

In view of official policy that some of our chat would constitute... and the delays and possible time chewing email thing - just got to get one of my kids (msn freaks) to sort out ichat/irc formalities..(i have an imac).SatuSuro 13:41, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Meetup

Regarding the WP:WA meetup, did it happen yesterday, or has it been rescheduled to 31st?--M W Johnson 23:30, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

"DATE: Wednesday 24th 31st January 2007

So no pints then? :@/ SeanMack 11:59, 25 January 2007 (UTC) OK so since that one fell right apart, does anyone have any suggestions for a new date we can all make? :) Orderinchaos78 12:51, 25 January 2007 (UTC)" SeanMack is buying it seems.

Thought you missed it. See from reply at M W that you did not. FredThePhantomDateSetter

Its time like these we need some sort of wa chat room...SatuSuro 13:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Brunswik

I fixed it. Is it okay now? --Parker007 13:53, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Re. BTW

f.e→o78 Fred

So that's where it is! Seems pretty good. Not a big fan of bright greens, etc., many others would disagree. Windows users tend to favor these, as they match that palette, thats my theory. Colour in wikipaedia brings a little ... well, orderinchaos. Like to see where it is going to sit. Will have a look now. Fred 14:19, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Writing for the enemy: Perhaps the last para from the lead section coud be expanded out into the (recent)Natural History section. Fred 02:36, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Suggested edit for Hamersley at:

• User:Fred.e/Me sandbox

Geography looks really good. The map is such a relief from boxes. Is there a key on the way? Transport not geeky if an area is unserviced. Are nights and w/ends? Fred 06:55, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Your doing a F.A. job over there. I will have a look when you are done. The map really makes the page easier to read. May be we should get a womens POV on the colour, they have better colour vision receptors, I believe. Keep up the good work. Fred 07:23, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

At your service. How can I help you gentlemen? --Ali K 08:15, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Hartfield Park

Would you mind looking at this. Is it a locality in the normal sense of the word? And if not, is it worthy of an article? I'm a bit unsure about these things and you seem to be one of the locality experts. —Moondyne 04:01, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I cannot see anything wrong with your Hamersley referencing as it is. I could believe that one or two others might, but for me its fine. It gets down to personal taste I suppose and you have to go with what you feel comfortable with. —Moondyne 05:37, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Its my secret mind reading powers. Do you think demographics could be expanded a bit? eg. percentage Australian born, indigenous, non=English speakers, age mix. —Moondyne 01:24, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Assumption leads to trouble

After a quick copyedit, I'd have to say this article has just about everything it needs. I was quite upset to find that my knowledge of the suburb wasn't as good as I had previously assumed. On the countless times that I had been passed the Hamersley Golf Course, I thought it was in the suburb of Hamersley, not the ward. A quick glance at the Street Directory proved a shock. And all this, even though I have previously lived in neighbouring suburbs. I saw images of the ABC tower on a link at SatuSuro's talk page a while back. The main picture for the info box should be this. Other than that, nice job. I might do a bit of fishing for books etc, you never know. :)--Ali K 09:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Help is needed

Forget the maritime project for the moment (hammersley aside of course) the scottlish clan issue at Petedavo needs some help - when you are avilable - thanks SatuSuro 11:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Good work, but what is the name of these, they are still not appearing. Fred 11:44, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Maritime needs a user box same as perth/wa - whatever is easy - if youre doing it all in one go maybe the tassie project (OK i know I am pushing it...) SatuSuro 11:46, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

fixed it, ta. Fred 11:57, 26 January 2007 (UTC) P.S. Re. Quality

Or you could have a look at mine once I have them up (cannot wait for school to be on again - kids out of house during the nday - downloading and uploading etc...) SatuSuro 13:19, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Radio mast

Certainly did. Now I see it is your pic :| Sorry, giving credit to the wrong person. Though you will have to forgive me, the language between you, SatuSuro and Fred is at times... interesting... --Ali K 05:44, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey you should see the language in our emails! heheh SatuSuro 14:36, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Indeed. Nice for a change though. Rain tonight, I believe. --Ali K 06:27, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Nullabor nymph

Now there is the sort of material the wa project is surely lacking - the whimsically crazy stuff that is older than most editors! SatuSuro 14:37, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

NDP

hey, that's fine. i always welcome updating obsolete/depreciated templates :)

RingtailedFox • Talk • Stalk 16:24, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject ... where?

Check out [3] for a view of how things might have gone. A lot of relevant history for towns etc. It seems ok if you want to upload it. I know nothing about such things. I only just discovered how irregular images float over section lines when looking at your image on WP:WA. Could come in handy. Fred

ers, and ians

Probably a local usage that we poor sunset coast inhabitants know nothing about SatuSuro 09:30, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

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Oops - somehow managed to not include it in the article it was for. Now rectified. Orderinchaos78 13:13, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Avoiding edit conflict

Have you tackled image use from LISWA, Battye, et al? Fred 14:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

BTW Saw old book on perth suburb names in a freo elizabeth's. Slight but interesting. also There is a 'list of aboriginal words in en' if you come across any suburb names, etc. Fred The one opposite Fremantle Town Hall. It seemed pretty good. Fred 15:22, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Welcome back

Cheers! Yes it was away from Perth; there was a clue in my wikibreak notice image. Hesperian 12:46, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

It sticks out like the proverbial now as well -SatuSuro 13:02, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Looking at the above ground and underground of things - I must say the criteria in Yogyakarta ten years ago for whether telephone lines went in the air or below ground related to nothing to do with practicality but politics as well.... :( SatuSuro 14:03, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Freds asking hesp about things sro and battyelike and i answered it you might want to but in...SatuSuro 14:11, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

as for the suburb names that came and went - if you can copy - I'll desperately want your ref for that - better email though.... SatuSuro 14:13, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

yaba yaba doo! viz my reply and I'm off SatuSuro 14:32, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Greeting newcomers

Paradise city (talk · contribs): when greeting them, please don't forget to actually look at the value of their contribs. `'mikka 00:19, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the greets

Thanks for the greetings Orderinchaos78, hope to see you round wikipedia, good luck BarcodeIII 12:05, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Heathridge

I'd say the uncleared land around Pinaroo and Craigie open space would be very similar to what was in heathridge. Gnangarra 15:11, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll get back to you on this. I just had a few spare moments and thought I'd blue some of the red species article at Hamersley, and - surprise - Melburnian did them all yesterday! Hesperian 01:23, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

No, it does. As the common name of a plant, "Heath" usually means Erica, which doesn't occur in Australia. But "heath" can also refer to a form of vegetation - see heath (habitat). WA has extensive heath, mostly proteaceous and myrtaceous. The Stirling Ranges is mostly heath, for example. Hesperian 01:36, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

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Heathridge's vegetation belongs to the "Cottesloe Complex". The Atlas goes into detail about the Complex's sandplain vegetation composition, but only makes passing mention of "closed-heath on the limestone outcrops". I don't mind digging around for specific composition if/when its important enough to warrant the effort i.e. FAC. Until then, rest assured that all Australian heath (other than our alpine heath) is Proteaceae and Myrtaceae with a bit of Fabales thrown in.

I think you've got a reasonable narrative there: it was called "Heathridge" because it is/has a ridge of limestone vegetated with a closed heath. Hesperian 04:13, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Palm Island, Queensland

Hi, I noticed you put the images back into a gallery style. This is not a preferred option apparently, I am working on putting them into an actual table. I think the image how-to is where I read, not to use the gallery tags. Garrie 05:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for all your great contributions to the Palm Island article over the past couple of weeks during its term as the Collaboration, I think it’s amazing how much it has been improved to this point. It was probably at Stub level when we got into it, now I think it would be competitive for Good or A Class article and perhaps over the next few months it will get up to the standard of Feature.

There’s only one day left of it being the Collaboration so if we have any last ideas as to how it can be improved lets be bold and get into it now. But most of all I just wanted to thank you for all your work and help before it was finished. Thanks, Alec ^{-(answering machine)} 08:35, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Meetup

I realise if I had no other there I could have bored you silly for hours re some our previous email conversations and others - maybe we meet up at SRO/Battye on a free day once youre at uni? Anyways it was good meeting you ! SatuSuro 07:55, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

blank the link blank the link (bit like put the cat out, put the cat out )- cripes if the wrong hands got onto that one, we'd need more than a few pints at the next meetup! SatuSuro 14:44, 2 February 2007 (UTC) link the blanks blank the link (keep the leopard in, watch the wallabies while theyre loose goose [4] SatuSuro 04:04, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Bold park thingy - I have a deep suspicion that there are many links to be made here - maybe an extended conversation - I have dads taxi stuff v soon - maybe later...SatuSuro 10:08, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

North Queensland Wikiproject

Hi Orderinchaos, thank you for the offer, I was more looking to set up a North Queensland Stub template to put on North Queensland related stubs, the reason I went for North Queensland is because it's boarders are easier to define in two words, however Townsville seems to need an explanatory note wherever it goes (there would not be room for that on a stub notice). I'm not sure if a separate North Queensland Wikiproject would generate interest from anyone other than current members of the Townsville Wikiproject and that doesn't have people knocking down our door to get in... I don't have much preference between a Townsville or North Queensland Wikiproject, but I don't think having both of them would be of benefit and I'm happy with it as it is until it gets more interest and we can spread to the whole of North Queensland, maybe if you post the same message to the project's talk page others will have a different opinion. Thanks, Alec ^{-(answering machine)} 09:08, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Adoption

I'm in need of help from an experienced editor on Wikipedia. Would you kindly accept me as one of your adoptees? Balikem 06:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Kain (Band)

The article has already been put up for speedy and contested by someone other than the author which is why it now has a prod. The prod tag was placed on the 2nd and expires on the 7th. The only reason to remove the prod would be if you are contesting it. Nuttah68 17:47, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

It was not an accusation of vandalism, if it had been I would have tagged as such, but information pointing out how what you did to the tagged article can be seen. Looking over your recent contributions I notice you have replaced the prod with a speedy on a number of other articles. You may want to revert these and allow them to run the due process laid out at WP:PROD. Nuttah68 18:05, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Please help the Stephanie Adams page.

Why does one person who only has a few sentences about her receive so much animosity from a few bitter individuals? And why are there so many references on the page about her when other pages don't require any?

If you take a look at the history of the edits on the Stephanie Adams page, you will see that User Sean D Martin and now User LexiLynn are making personal attacks against other editors and even the person the article is about.

If they feel so horribly about someone they do not even know (including Stephanie Adams), then perhaps they should refrain from editing the page about her, removing important information added to the already small article.

And if they cannot write objectively, or if they cannot refrain from bad etiquette on Wikipedia, then maybe you should block or ban them from editing.

Please note that User Sean D Martin is involved in a smaller lawsuit Stephanie Adams filed against his friend, making him have a direct conflict of interest and should not be editing the article on her.

Cle0patr4 08:12, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

P.S. From what I did manage to read, it sounds like Jim Wales spoke to her (or someone who knows her) once before and resolved a matter quite similar. I doubt this lady is a bad person and it's a shame others seem to be so jealous/hateful of her.