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*'''Delete'''. Where are the GNG sources? Can someone provide the best three pieces of SIGCOV please. [[User:JoelleJay|JoelleJay]] ([[User talk:JoelleJay|talk]]) 02:38, 4 February 2022 (UTC) |
*'''Delete'''. Where are the GNG sources? Can someone provide the best three pieces of SIGCOV please. [[User:JoelleJay|JoelleJay]] ([[User talk:JoelleJay|talk]]) 02:38, 4 February 2022 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' Easily passes NFOOTBALL with 19 fully-professional caps in just the last 2 years! Can [[User:ArsenalGhanaPartey]] withdraw this nomination - presumably you weren't aware that his Czech appearances were fully-professional, as that team didn't drop to the 3rd tier until after he played for them. [[User:JoelleJay]] is well aware that consensus within the project is that with someone with scores of fully-professional caps, easily meeting NFOOTBALL, we don't have to waste time trying to find foreign-language references to meet GNG, and have debates about whether the sources in the article meet SIGCOV or not. [[User:Nfitz|Nfitz]] ([[User talk:Nfitz|talk]]) 00:29, 6 February 2022 (UTC) |
*'''Keep''' Easily passes NFOOTBALL with 19 fully-professional caps in just the last 2 years! Can [[User:ArsenalGhanaPartey]] withdraw this nomination - presumably you weren't aware that his Czech appearances were fully-professional, as that team didn't drop to the 3rd tier until after he played for them. [[User:JoelleJay]] is well aware that consensus within the project is that with someone with scores of fully-professional caps, easily meeting NFOOTBALL, we don't have to waste time trying to find foreign-language references to meet GNG, and have debates about whether the sources in the article meet SIGCOV or not. [[User:Nfitz|Nfitz]] ([[User talk:Nfitz|talk]]) 00:29, 6 February 2022 (UTC) |
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*:You mean waste time demonstrating a subject actually merits an encyclopedia article? Waste time building a biography of a BLP that doesn't run afoul of WP:NOT? If he's so '''obviously notable''' from playing in the Czech second tier or Tunisian first league surely it would be trivial to find Czech and French/Arabic sources. And yet all I'm finding are database entries, rosters, brief mentions in transfers, and discussion of a movie someone with the same name was involved in. The main Czech sports publication [https://isport.blesk.cz/vyhledavani?q=aggoun&hash=1d299005978&keyword=aggoun iSport.cz] merely lists him among Blasko members in a few articles, while there's nothing in [https://hledej.idnes.cz/clanky.aspx?q=aggoun Mladá fronta DNES], [https://www.lidovky.cz/hledani?q=aggoun Lidovky], [https://hn.cz/?search%5Bwhat%5D=aggoun&p=000000_search#result HN], [https://www.ceskenoviny.cz/vyhledavani/ CTK], [https://www.metro.cz/hledej.aspx Metro], or [https://www.blesk.cz/vyhledavani?q=aggoun&hash=1de0caf8e81&keyword=aggoun Blesk]; and among ''[https://www.denik.cz/hledani/?q=aggoun&s=all all]'' regional newspapers in Czech, which have ''tons'' of coverage of Blasko, he is only mentioned in prose (as opposed to rosters/match stats) '''once''', in the [https://blanensky.denik.cz/fotbal_region/fk-blansko-druha-liga.html Blanensky deník] local paper: {{tq|the leadership of the Prague team could have been two-goal after referee Adamkova ordered a penalty kick after a foul by Aggoun.}} No hits on major Tunisian news sites (in both French and Arabic) like [https://news.gnet.tn/?s=%22aggoun%22 GNET.tn/Akhbar.tn] or [https://www.tap.info.tn/ar/search?kw=%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%82+%D8%B9%D9%82%D9%88%D9%86 Tunis Afrique Presse], or [https://www.tunisia-live.net/?s=aggoun&post_type=post Tunisia Live], or [https://www.tunisiefocus.com/?s=aggoun Tunisie] [https://www.tunisiefocus.com/?s=%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%82+%D8%B9%D9%82%D9%88%D9%86 Focus], or [https://www.nessma.tv/fr/search?s=aggoun Nessma] [https://www.nessma.tv/ar/search?s=%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%82+%D8%B9%D9%82%D9%88%D9%86 TV] or [http://www.watania1.tn/%D9%85%D8%AD%D8%B1%D9%83-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%AD%D8%AB?%D9%83%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A9-%D9%85%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD=%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%82+%D8%B9%D9%82%D9%88%D9%86 Watania] or [https://www.awttar.com/?s=%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%82+%D8%B9%D9%82%D9%88%D9%86 Kalima Tunisie]; while others like Essahafa, Al Chourouk, El Khadra, Shems FM, Akher Khabar Online, Jawhara FM, and Radio Sabra FM strictly feature reprints of the [https://www.elkhadra.com/news/131554 same] [https://radiosabrafm.net/amp/articles/nady-hmam-alanf-ytaaakd-maa-mdafaa-jzaery-o-mhajm-tshady three]-[http://www.essahafa.tn/index.php?id=60&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=22434&tx_ttnews[backPid]=10&cHash=997d5fa1c8 sentence] [https://www.alchourouk.com/article/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%B7%D8%A9-1-%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%8A-%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%81-%D9%8A%D8%AA%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%82%D8%AF-%D9%85%D8%B9-%D9%85%D9%87%D8%A7%D8%AC%D9%85-%D8%AA%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%8A-%D9%88%D9%85%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%B9-%D8%AC%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%B1%D9%8A announcement] [http://www.akherkhabaronline.com/ar/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B6%D9%8A%D8%A9/148844/%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%8A-%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%86%D9%81-%D9%8A%D8%AA%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%82%D8%AF-%D9%85%D8%B9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%87%D8%A7%D8%AC%D9%85-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%8A-%D8%BA%D9%88%D8%AF%D8%AC%D8%A7-%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%B9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%B1%D9%8A-%D8%B9%D9%82%D9%88%D9%86.html about] [https://www.shemsfm.net/amp/ar/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B6%D8%A9/301649/%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%8A-%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%86%D9%81-%D9%8A%D8%AA%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%82%D8%AF-%D9%85%D8%B9-%D8%AC%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%B1%D9%8A-%D9%88%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B9%D8%A8-%D9%85%D9%86-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%AF CSHL] [https://www.jawharafm.net/ar/recherche/87/%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%82%20%D8%B9%D9%82%D9%88%D9%86 signing] him and a Chadian striker. The only thing beyond that is a namedrop in reports on the match against Tataouine in [https://lapresse.tn/112804/ligue-1-2e-journee-groupes-a-et-b-matchs-avances-lust-enchaine/ La Presse de Tunisie] and [https://www.realites.com.tn/2021/10/l1-lust-seul-vainqueur/ Realites], namedrops in two articles on the state of CSHL in [https://ar.lemaghreb.tn/%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A9/itemlist/search?searchword=%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%82+%D8%B9%D9%82%D9%88%D9%86&categories= Le Maghreb], and namedrops in lists of player who scored in 2021 in [https://www.assabahnews.tn/ar/component/search/?searchword=%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%82%20%D8%B9%D9%82%D9%88%D9%86&searchphrase=all&Itemid=277 Al-Sabah]. [[User:JoelleJay|JoelleJay]] ([[User talk:JoelleJay|talk]]) 04:12, 6 February 2022 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete'''. Fails [[WP:GNG]] through lack of [[WP:SIGCOV]], which per [[WP:NSPORTS]] is required. If those who believe this article should be kept disagree, then they need to present such coverage - although I don't believe such coverage exists, and was unable to find any myself. [[User:BilledMammal|BilledMammal]] ([[User talk:BilledMammal|talk]]) 02:35, 6 February 2022 (UTC) |
*'''Delete'''. Fails [[WP:GNG]] through lack of [[WP:SIGCOV]], which per [[WP:NSPORTS]] is required. If those who believe this article should be kept disagree, then they need to present such coverage - although I don't believe such coverage exists, and was unable to find any myself. [[User:BilledMammal|BilledMammal]] ([[User talk:BilledMammal|talk]]) 02:35, 6 February 2022 (UTC) |
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Barely passes NFOOTY with a few appearances in the Tunisian League. However, he fails GNG comprehensively. I have found no sources that show significant coverage. The article itself only has one. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 14:50, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep - Young player who has played two seasons in fully professional football, one in the Czech second division and one in the Tunisian first division. Both leagues are professional by community standards. Will add additional sources and fill the article out a bit more now. Davidlofgren1996 (talk) 16:36, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep - young player, ongoing career, plenty of professional appearances for NFOOTBALL, also coverage out there towards GNG. GiantSnowman 19:48, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Keep, for the reasons of those who want to keep this article. Davidgoodheart (talk) 22:15, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Keep passes WP:NFOOTY and the subject is 24 year old with an ongoing career.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:08, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Where are the GNG sources? Can someone provide the best three pieces of SIGCOV please. JoelleJay (talk) 02:38, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Easily passes NFOOTBALL with 19 fully-professional caps in just the last 2 years! Can User:ArsenalGhanaPartey withdraw this nomination - presumably you weren't aware that his Czech appearances were fully-professional, as that team didn't drop to the 3rd tier until after he played for them. User:JoelleJay is well aware that consensus within the project is that with someone with scores of fully-professional caps, easily meeting NFOOTBALL, we don't have to waste time trying to find foreign-language references to meet GNG, and have debates about whether the sources in the article meet SIGCOV or not. Nfitz (talk) 00:29, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- You mean waste time demonstrating a subject actually merits an encyclopedia article? Waste time building a biography of a BLP that doesn't run afoul of WP:NOT? If he's so obviously notable from playing in the Czech second tier or Tunisian first league surely it would be trivial to find Czech and French/Arabic sources. And yet all I'm finding are database entries, rosters, brief mentions in transfers, and discussion of a movie someone with the same name was involved in. The main Czech sports publication iSport.cz merely lists him among Blasko members in a few articles, while there's nothing in Mladá fronta DNES, Lidovky, HN, CTK, Metro, or Blesk; and among all regional newspapers in Czech, which have tons of coverage of Blasko, he is only mentioned in prose (as opposed to rosters/match stats) once, in the Blanensky deník local paper:
the leadership of the Prague team could have been two-goal after referee Adamkova ordered a penalty kick after a foul by Aggoun.
No hits on major Tunisian news sites (in both French and Arabic) like GNET.tn/Akhbar.tn or Tunis Afrique Presse, or Tunisia Live, or Tunisie Focus, or Nessma TV or Watania or Kalima Tunisie; while others like Essahafa, Al Chourouk, El Khadra, Shems FM, Akher Khabar Online, Jawhara FM, and Radio Sabra FM strictly feature reprints of the same three-sentence announcement about CSHL signing him and a Chadian striker. The only thing beyond that is a namedrop in reports on the match against Tataouine in La Presse de Tunisie and Realites, namedrops in two articles on the state of CSHL in Le Maghreb, and namedrops in lists of player who scored in 2021 in Al-Sabah. JoelleJay (talk) 04:12, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- You mean waste time demonstrating a subject actually merits an encyclopedia article? Waste time building a biography of a BLP that doesn't run afoul of WP:NOT? If he's so obviously notable from playing in the Czech second tier or Tunisian first league surely it would be trivial to find Czech and French/Arabic sources. And yet all I'm finding are database entries, rosters, brief mentions in transfers, and discussion of a movie someone with the same name was involved in. The main Czech sports publication iSport.cz merely lists him among Blasko members in a few articles, while there's nothing in Mladá fronta DNES, Lidovky, HN, CTK, Metro, or Blesk; and among all regional newspapers in Czech, which have tons of coverage of Blasko, he is only mentioned in prose (as opposed to rosters/match stats) once, in the Blanensky deník local paper:
- Delete. Fails WP:GNG through lack of WP:SIGCOV, which per WP:NSPORTS is required. If those who believe this article should be kept disagree, then they need to present such coverage - although I don't believe such coverage exists, and was unable to find any myself. BilledMammal (talk) 02:35, 6 February 2022 (UTC)