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Criminal Allegations

An allegation is not the same thing as a conviction, and a criminal charge is a matter of public record. The charge is a relevant piece of that persons history, regardless of any verdict. If the charge is proven to be invalid, that can be noted in later edits, and backed up at that time with evidence and citations. At this juncture, there is no reason to remove this simple, singular sentence noting the criminal charge, and doing so makes Wikipedia as a whole worse than the public record.

It makes no sense to continually remove the fact of a criminal charge being brought forth against this person. The speculation around the charge should be removed, yes, but the charge itself is a simple fact, backed up by multiple credible citations over a number of edits from disparate parties.

There is precedent for adding criminal charges to a Biography page in Wikipedia. As an example, the page for Josh Duggar had multiple edits containing allegations and cited criminal charges, and these edits stood before his formal conviction in 2021

If it is to be changed, then please demonstrate why, using either cited examples or consistently applied Wikipedia policy. 198.2.93.215 (talk) 07:30, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 == Criminal Allegations ==
-An allegation is not the same thing as a conviction, and a criminal charge is a matter of public record. The charge is a relevant piece of that persons history, regardless of any verdict. If the charge is proven to be invalid, that can be noted in later edits, and backed up at that time with evidence and citations. At this juncture, there is no reason to remove this simple paragraph noting the criminal charge, and doing so makes Wikipedia as a whole worse than the public record.
+An allegation is not the same thing as a conviction, and a criminal charge is a matter of public record. The charge is a relevant piece of that persons history, regardless of any verdict. If the charge is proven to be invalid, that can be noted in later edits, and backed up at that time with evidence and citations. At this juncture, there is no reason to remove this simple, singular sentence noting the criminal charge, and doing so makes Wikipedia as a whole worse than the public record.
 It makes no sense to continually remove the fact of a criminal charge being brought forth against this person. The speculation around the charge should be removed, yes, but the charge itself is a simple fact, backed up by multiple credible citations over a number of edits from disparate parties.