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Separate article from Apple M1? Why?

Clearly the M1 Pro and M1 Max are derivative from the M1. How much unique content will there be? Even if articles for these two are kept distinct from the M1, they themselves are related and have major overlap. 45.26.61.142 (talk) 14:38, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. M1 Pro and Max are variants of the M1 as confirmed by news reports. We should merge them back to Apple M1.--Lesiw (talk) 00:07, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed! Plus, it would be better to add a comparison table to Apple M1. Gyarudev (talk) 18:00, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Split again?

Now that we have more distinction and a new model, is it worth splitting up these variants? It’s going to be getting cluttered soon. M1 Pro, M1 Max, M1 Ultra. QuarioQuario54321 (talk) 01:10, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Apple M1. 45.26.61.142 (talk) 03:48, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Why though? QuarioQuario54321 (talk) 16:05, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
because Apple M1, M1 Pro, M1 Max, and M1 Ultra are basically the same thing with a slightly different specification. 68.43.179.9 (talk) 00:14, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Don’t Merge, keep separate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShibAlpaca (talk • contribs) 04:06, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Apple M1; M1 Pro, Max, and Ultra are variants of the M1. In the same way that Alder Lake's Core i3, i5, i7, and i9 don't have separate articles, I don't see the need for the M1 derivatives to have their own articles. Itsquietuptown ✉️📜 06:05, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
But we already have separate pages for the A5X, A6X, A8X, A9X, A10X, A12X, and A12Z chips from the normal variants. QuarioQuario54321 (talk) 16:05, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps we shouldn't. Guy Harris (talk) 18:40, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
As in "perhaps we shouldn't have separate pages for the An{X,Z} chips and their An bases. I.e., that argument doesn't necessarily support "split", it could also support "merge, and merge the An{X.Z} while we're at it". Guy Harris (talk) 19:25, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Guy Harris: Given the nearly WP:SNOW support for this, I feel safe in suggesting you just be bold and do what you're suggesting. I'd support that for certain. —Locke Cole • t • c 00:02, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Apple M1. There's not much point in having them seperate. Souliousery (talk) 09:18, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We already have separate articles for the A5X, A6X, A8X, A9X, A10X, and A12X, so that would be some inconsistency QuarioQuario54321 (talk) 16:07, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The M1 variants share most technical details, and the new Ultra variant even seems to go so far as merely being two Max dies fused together.

As such, until the lineup varies more in architecture or other technical distinctions, there would likely be more confusion in the split articles then a combined one with a clear comparison table. 158.248.116.245 (talk) 11:06, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We already have the X variants of the existing Apple Chips in their own articles QuarioQuario54321 (talk) 16:06, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge While I don't think they're the same, I think we should follow the same style as the Intel Core and Ryzen pages, where the series is on the same page. Bray (talk) 14:21, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well that wouldn't be consistent with Apple though since we have separate A5 and A5X, A6 and A6X, A8 and A8X, A9 and A9X, A10 and A10X, and A12 A12X and A12Z pages. QuarioQuario54321 (talk) 16:04, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge, there's not enough to these chips currently to justify separate articles for each. The prior discussion above already seem to lean towards merging this back in to the primary M1 article, we definitely don't need a separate M1 Ultra page beyond the current redirects. —Locke Cole • t • c 18:14, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
But that would be inconsistent, as X variants of chips do have their own pages on the A series chips. And there are far more of them. QuarioQuario54321 (talk) 18:52, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@QuarioQuario54321: Do read WP:BLUDGEON. I've seen that argument and it is not a compelling reason to have multiple separate pages for what are very closely related topics. See also WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. —Locke Cole • t • c 21:29, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Apple M1. M1 Pro, Max and Ultra are variations of M1. While we usually offer a different article for 'X' series of processors, that is easier to manage when we only have the two chips, but the M1 is the A14X. We would have a better article if merged. If we don't merge with the M1 article - the Pro/Max/Ultras should stay within one article as the Pro/Max is already here and the Ultra is just two Maxes stitched together. Conay (talk) 21:14, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Apple M1 title it “Apple M1 Series Chips” now that we have four variants of essentially the same chip architecture scaled to different sizes its more confusing to have separate article. Per other comments it would better align with similar Intel and AMD pages. Edavy123 (talk) 22:31, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 * Merge with [[Apple M1]]. [[Special:Contributions/45.26.61.142|45.26.61.142]] ([[User talk:45.26.61.142|talk]]) 03:48, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 *:Why though? [[User:QuarioQuario54321|QuarioQuario54321]] ([[User talk:QuarioQuario54321|talk]]) 16:05, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
+*::because Apple M1, M1 Pro, M1 Max, and M1 Ultra are basically the same thing with a slightly different specification. [[Special:Contributions/68.43.179.9|68.43.179.9]] ([[User talk:68.43.179.9|talk]]) 00:14, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
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 *'''Merge''' with [[Apple M1]]; M1 Pro, Max, and Ultra are variants of the M1. In the same way that Alder Lake's Core i3, i5, i7, and i9 don't have separate articles, I don't see the need for the M1 derivatives to have their own articles. <span style="background:#BAF279">[[User:Itsquietuptown|<span style="font-family:Garamond; font-size:110%; color: black">Itsquietuptown</span>]] [[User talk:Itsquietuptown|✉️]][[Special:Contributions/Itsquietuptown|📜]]</span> 06:05, 9 March 2022 (UTC)