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It has been proposed in this section that Anti-Soviet resistance by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army be renamed and moved to Ukrainian anti-Soviet resistance movement.

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Ukrainian Insurgent Army war against Russian occupation → Ukrainian anti-Soviet resistance movement – Although I have always liked to recognize the Soviet Union for what it was, a Russian empire, referring to it as such on Wikipedia is too informal. Occupation here is also a POV term. Another title is needed, and since per this article's own infobox not only the UPA participated in this conflict, I am proposing "Ukrainian anti-Soviet resistance movement". Maybe "movement" can be dropped. Super Ψ Dro 21:27, 26 March 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:16, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Soviet refers to pre-1991 Soviet Union, so the page move doesn't have any relevance of it. 180.254.173.13 (talk) 07:22, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Soviet refers to pre-1991 Soviet Union" yeah, that's what the article is about. Super Ψ Dro 09:58, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Ukrainian anti-Soviet resistance movement was from the beginning of occupation in 1917 to the end in 1991. This article is only for Ukrainian Insurgent Army resistance 1944-1950s. --Sakateka (talk) 08:25, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Were there more instances of armed resistance against Soviet domination apart of this and the Soviet–Ukrainian War (which shouldn't be included into this article)? If so, we could just add them into the article and expand its scope. Super Ψ Dro 13:25, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Also consider Ukrainian anti-Soviet armed resistance or the like to allay User:Sakateka's concerns. At a minimum, "Russian occupation" in the current title should be changed to "Soviet rule" per the nom's concerns. — AjaxSmack 04:55, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support It was officially the Soviet Union and historians, specifically from those areas will describe it as such. It is no different as saying the government of England instead of the Government of the United Kingdom, which is as the country is known as. Also many in Ireland would like to view their period under British rule as occupation. It's too informal, too loaded and needs to maintain a neutral stance 79.155.36.178 (talk) 15:28, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::Were there more instances of armed resistance against Soviet domination apart of this and the [[Soviet–Ukrainian War]] (which shouldn't be included into this article)? If so, we could just add them into the article and expand its scope. [[User:Super Dromaeosaurus|<span style="color:#0099FF;">Super</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Super Dromaeosaurus|<span style="color:#800080;">Ψ</span>]] [[User talk:Super Dromaeosaurus|<span style="color:#E60026;">Dro</span>]] 13:25, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 *'''Support''' per nom.  Also consider {{-r|Ukrainian anti-Soviet armed resistance}} or the like to allay [[User:Sakateka]]'s concerns.  At a minimum, "Russian occupation" in the current title should be changed to "Soviet rule" per the nom's concerns.  — [[User talk:AjaxSmack|<span style="border:1px solid #93010b;background:#ef0000;padding:2px;color:#efe6e6;text-shadow:black 0.2em 0.2em 0.3em; font-family: Georgia;">&nbsp;'''AjaxSmack'''&nbsp;</span>]] 04:55, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
+:* '''Support''' It was officially the Soviet Union and historians, specifically from those areas will describe it as such. It is no different as saying the government of England instead of the Government of the United Kingdom, which is as the country is known as. Also many in Ireland would like to view their period under British rule as occupation. It's too informal, too loaded and needs to maintain a neutral stance [[Special:Contributions/79.155.36.178|79.155.36.178]] ([[User talk:79.155.36.178|talk]]) 15:28, 5 April 2022 (UTC)