Talk:Babylon Rogues

Dan Green as Storm?

Source. NOW! GrandMasterGalvatron 17:40, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, for one, it says so on the Sonic Riders article, Concept Mobius also stated that (but now the site has gone defunct). But, I do agree Storm sounds a lot more like Madeleine's voice. Oh, and, where's YOUR source for it being Madeleine's voice (does it say it in the manual, I can't remember) UnDeRsCoRe 22:43, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

A few paragraphs down actually. Earlier, everyone was so convinced it was Blaustein. This has been going back and forth so much...now I wanna see it cited. GrandMasterGalvatron 23:11, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

This actually only seemed to start when some IP address put "Unknown" for his voice actor and wrote a sentence in trivia sentence that "Storm's voice has said to voiced by many including Tom Moboka, Madeleine Blaustein, Dan Green. The true voice of him is unknown and uncertain.". But, if it's is Madeleine or Dan you can't really cite a manual or credits at the end of the game. UnDeRsCoRe 23:27, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Theory

Just alittle theory. Since it's stated in the games that the Babylonian Rogues were punished by gods, and Chaos is the only official "god" figure in the Sonic universe, I wonder if it's possible that there are other gods like Chaos in the series, or if Chaos was the one that punished them. That'd be interesting to know.

I think Tails was just talking about the God. Chaos was probably still in the Master Emerald when the Babylonians were killed. Shadoman, 23 March 2006

As this is a kids game, they wouldn't include "the" God. They don't mix religion with video games very often, so, I don't think that's what there talking about. Although I do totally agree with you that Chaos was probably still trapped in the Master Emerald... Although, it is totally possible the the Babylonians were around at the exact same time as the Echidnas, before Chaos was sealed, as there were supposedly many clans around at that time of the Echidnas that were waring with eachother (more like the Echidnas were waring with everybody else). It was never stated when they existed or when they fell (unless I forgot), so anything is plausible. ~ Ultimate Perfect Chaos 03:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC) ~

on sonic riders when you highlight the babylongardian level wer you defear the genie thing it says beat the "god" of the babylonians or somminlike that

is it possible that the god that punished them was the Gizoid?

Pictures

You know, the Jet picture should move up cause it looks like Jet is Wave. --anon

To whoever screwed around with this page and erased Wave and Storm's character data, I've got a message: the rumors about Jet going Super are to be kept off this page until they are confirmed, capishe?-Denjo

Who got rid of the Babylon Rogues pictures? And you can check who wrote the rumors in the history page. --anon

Alignment in the Sonic universe

I'm looking at updating the Sonic template - should the Babylon Rogues be categorized neutral or villains? I'm leaning towards keeping them neutral. Alex 21:52, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Neutral, AKA, anti-heroes. That's where they should be put. The rogues are thieves, yes, but they still have common enemies with some heroes. As stated in both Jet's theme song, and by Jet himself in the game, they don't want advanced technology or world domination--just treasure. Rouge is kind of like this, but she wants JEWELS. And she's also a government spy. Also, she more treasure 'hunter' than jewel thief. The Rogues are straight-out thieves, and will take any real treasure--namely, jewels, gems, gold, silver, money, etc. --Ultimate 21:58, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Storm and Stolen

Storm's voice actor is Ted Elliot according to IMDB. And Stolen was the 13th Leader of the Babylon Rogues.Sukecchi 20:17, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Who the hell is Stolen? I've been playing riders extensively but I never heard of Stolen. Where did you get this? Toastypk 17:21, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

It confused me at first, also, as I thought it meant that something was 'stolen,' but it's confirmed that Stolen was the 13th leader of the Babylon Rogues. He's probably also the one who developed the first Extreme Gear. The Extreme Gear allowed them to 'fly' without having to struggle to do so. My guess is that Wave is younger, thinner, and smaller, and she can fly a lot easier than Jet and Storm. These are unusual birds, you know. They are much larger than ordinary ones. Oh, and it's found in the note that Eggman reads after they beat the Babylon Guardian, and claim the treasure of Babylon. --Ultimate 21:50, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

No, Storm's voice actor is NOT Ted Elliot. IMDB is not a very reliable source as once in Shadow the Hedgehog, they said David Humphrey and Ryan Drummond would be returning to play Sonic and Shadow, even though they ended up being played by Jason Griffith instead. Plus, do you see Elliot's name in the credits? It's pretty obvious he's played by Madeleine Blaustein.Shadoman

And yet, people still keep on posting in the article that Storm is voiced by Dan Green. I'm changing it. --Ultima 20:16, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

He IS played by Dan Green. Notice that Maddie Blaustien's name is at the bottom of the credits with the likes of Rouge (Kathleen Delaney) and Cream (Rebecca Honig)? Blaustien plays the two Egg-Robots, as well as the final boss (the giant Babylonian Genie). I DO know that Maddie Blaustien can play deep-sounding characters, but if that was the case for Storm, the character would sound more like Lt. Surge or Solomon Mutou. I think the point was that Jet has the same VA as Sonic, and Storm has the same VA as Knuckles. Amy Palant played Omochao in addition to Tails, so that was her second job as opposed to playing Wave. If Wikipedia's policy for confirming voice actors for characters in 4Kids related production is just 'guessing' (which it seems to be, check out some of the One Piece character pages), I think that's enough confirmation.

-Kirbopher 10/20/06

Vandalism

This page has recently been vandalised. I'm going to undo the edits. --DavidHOzAu 09:16, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Jet information

Should we add the fact that Jet's prototype name was "Wind"? Sonic Stadium has confirmed this, and they say it was confirmed. --Alexie 17:36, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Villian category?

The guys are placed in Sonic Villians, when they're not really as such. Is this ok? I don't think so.. Toastypk 06:10, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

They should be in the Heroes

Sonic X Season 4

There's a rumour that the Babylon Rouges will appear in season 4 of Sonic X; so far I have seen no proof that there will be a season 4. If no one can provide a respectable source that the Rouges will appear and there will be a season 4, I don't think that rumour belongs here. And please don't debate the existence of season 4 here, go to the Sonic X talk page for that. -- VederJuda 22:28, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Eh, just scrolling through here, and noticed this. Truth is, nothing had been 'specifically' stated about a Season 4. However, translations of TMS Entertainment's website stated a few of their current projects, and Sonic X was listed. If the series was over, they probably wouldn't list it among that. It's safe to assume that is the case. As for the part about the Babylon Rogues appearing, I have know idea where that came from. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was the case. (P.S. I know about the rumor about Babylon in Season 4. I just don't know where it came from.) --Ultima 20:14, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Jet and Shadow

I noticed that Jet seems to have a resemblence to Shadow, what with the eyes and markings and chest hair. It seems like that should be noted in the articles. 24.196.6.150 08:30, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I beg to differ. Whoop-dee-doo if they both have chest hair and similar eyes and tattoos. It's hardly worthy of a mention in an encyclopedial article. --Danish Ranger 21:55, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Jet the Hawk in Sonic 2006???

Someone put in the article that Jet will appear in Sonic 2006. That sounds entirely false. Can this actually be confirmed? Anonoymous, posted 1:00 PM 9/30/06

Yeah, that's why I added the "lacks references" tag at the top of the page. --Brandon Dilbeck 17:34, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Sonic Riders 2

Aside from a mention in EuroGamer, there is no evidence Sonic Riders 2 is even in development; it's quite possible that plans for such a game have been shelved, and we havn't heard anything about the game since that interview (which took place before Sonic Riders itself was released at the beginning of this year). Although it would be likely that the Rogues would appear in such a game, there is nothing official that says so, and adding the rumours about the Rogues appearing in it is pure fan speculation. As such, I don't think the article should even mention SR2, until there is more info. -- VederJuda 23:07, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree as much as I would wholly enjoy SR2, there is no official word of it being in development as of yet. Maybe it will come back, who knows. But until that time, I guess we can remove the mention of it. Knuckles sonic8 23:32, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

It will be made

It's pretty obvious that they are still going to create a new one, but like everyone else said, we need to wait for an official announcement that they are actually developing it. --Ultima 21:23, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I REALLY hope they put it on the Wii as well, altohugh I don't doubt they will. Knuckles sonic8 21:43, 13 February 2007 (UTC) hey I promise I will find out-Sonicrules