Talk:Timeline of the Russian invasion of Ukraine

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Hello those of the Wikipedian master race, I would like to inform you that I have added several tags to the page of Timeline of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. These tags include: This article needs to be updated, This article's factual accuracy is disputed, and This article documents a current event. Please see my Edit Summary for more information on this (is still pretty vague though, sorry about that). If you do not agree with my changes, please let us discuss this and decide whether these tags will stay and whether or not more tags should be required. Yesterday I included the Very Long tag, and if you do not agree with that then again, please discuss this with me and others here. Have a great day, ypc0cnz (talk) 20:01, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

@Ypc0cnz: I don't agree with the tag additions (except for Template:Very long). A bot automatically removed Template:Current, because as its documentation says, it's "generally expected to appear on an article for less than a day". As for Template:Disputed, you aren't mentioning any specific claims that you're disputing the factual accuracy of; which claims are you disputing? I also don't think Template:Update is helpful, because it's an ongoing event, so of course it may be out of date; as far as I know, this template is designed for articles which need a one-time update, not articles about ongoing events. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 20:15, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

I agree on all points. On the accuracy issue specifically, the article states the broad source of the information and what the statement was. It does not assume that the statements are true, just that they occurred, which is backed up with one or more references. I re-instated an edit today which was removed on the basis that it's factual accuracy cannot be verified, but in fact the text only claims that the Russians made a statement about something, which according to cited sources, they did. If there are specific inaccuracies they should be referred to and can be fixed. Suggest the tag additions are removed. Rafflesgluft (talk) 17:24, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Template:Disputed has been removed. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 20:17, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello, sorry for not responding sooner, I have been fairly busy recently, but despite that, thank you for your reply. Like I said in the response to Tol, I am a new editor and I make many mistakes, and your reply helped to further me into becoming a good editor. I will make sure not to misuse tags like I have here in the future. Thank you so much for your reply! Have a great day, ypc0cnz (talk) 14:19, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I'm sorry for not responding sooner (I have been really busy for the past few days), but thank you for your response. It was very helpful to me and highlighted the mistakes that I have made. I am a fairly new editor to Wikipedia and your response helped me to become just a little bit better (still not too good, though). Also, thank you for enlightening me about the Update template. I had previously not known that. Thank you for your reply Tol! Have a wonderful day, ypc0cnz (talk) 14:17, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

No problem! Generally, tags shouldn't be added unless there's a current problem with the page that you can't fix yourself, so you need another editor's help in fixing the problem (see Wikipedia:Template index/Cleanup). Tol (talk | contribs) @ 15:12, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much, I did not know that! - ypc0cnz (talk) 15:27, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

No problem! I've removed Template:Update. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 15:59, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! - ypc0cnz (talk) 18:47, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

No problem! Tol (talk | contribs) @ 19:14, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Timeline from April 18 onwards is on a different page

Battle of Donbas (2022) documents the more detailed events and could just say look there for future events. 66.255.234.241 (talk) 18:21, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

"the ruzzian defense ministry claimed"

is this page some sort of kremlin propaganda platform now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.221.45.43 (talk) 17:28, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

No, but we have to put both sides claims, or only fully (and independently) conformed facts. Of which there are few. Slatersteven (talk) 17:32, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

2022 Winter Olympics closing ceremony

Is it valuable mentioning that 21 February (where is kind of started) was 1 day after the 2022 Winter Olympics closing ceremony? (Media has reported that Putin would have waited to start the conflict after the Olympics by a request of China). My propose to start the sentence: On 21 February, one day after the 2022 Winter Olympics closing ceremony, … 82.174.61.58 (talk) 07:10, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Request change on 30th of april section

On the section about the 30th of April events should be noted that russia's claim was yet to be verified, that is specified both in the source given aswell as reuter's report . At least wait for the claim to be confirmed before putting it in the page.