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Reza Goodary

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Subject does not meet notability criteria for sportsmen as per WP:NKICK, WP:NMMA, WP:NSPORT and WP:ANYBIO. The subject has not won any notable championships and there's a likelihood the article was created promotionally or WP:PAID. Lethweimaster (talk) 16:26, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

• Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2022 August 6. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 16:52, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Martial arts, and Iran. Shellwood (talk) 16:57, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

• Keep A quick WP:BEFORE shows quite a bit of coverage through Persian news outlets and other sources.[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] ♡RAFAEL♡^(talk) 22:45, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
• Keep passes WP:GNG. But there is a scope for work on the tone and advertisement. BBSTOP (talk) 05:16, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
• Comment Just not understanding how this passes WP:NKICK, WP:NMMA, WP:NSPORT and WP:ANYBIO? The article is promotional, so that needs to be edited either way. But what notability is being determined here? Fad Ariff (talk) 11:49, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

  Agreed, there is no claim to notability here. Losing record in all disciplines Muaythai, MMA, and Boxing, has not won any notable championships. Lethweimaster (talk) 11:29, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

• Comments He doesn't appear to have won a major title that would show notability and his professional record is underwhelming. At first glance there appears to be a lot of sources, but I've been going through them and am having trouble seeing what meets the WP:GNG criteria. There's fight announcements, results reporting, database entries, and interviews--none of which meet WP:GNG. Even some of the national news coverage, much of which consists mainly of results and interviews, is somewhat suspect in terms of independence. When I see things like "our fighter", I have to question that I'm getting unbiased information. I haven't gotten through every source, but so far it's not encouraging. It would be nice if those claiming WP:GNG would pick their three best examples so that the rest of us don't have to spend time slogging through a lot of sources that don't meet that standard. Also, I'd like to say that WP notability is not dependent on the author (who may or may not be have been paid or written promotionally). He only appears to have about 50 edits in his contribution list, so he may just be inexperienced (and I'd hate to discourage a new contributor). Papaursa (talk) 02:07, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:50, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

• Comment This article is shamelessly promotional.

* Keep Meet WP:SPORTSPERSON and WP:NKICK by a lot of reliable source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.204.251.47 (talk) 03:48, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

He has won no significant titles and has never been ranked in the world top 10 so he fails to meet either of the notability criteria mentioned by the spa above. Even with the Kyokushin World Tournament Open having been split into at least 4 or 5 competing factions (each with their own championship), I don't see any evidence of him being the world champion in any of them. An 8th place in one of them is not a "world champion". Will reconsider if reliable independent sources are provided for those accomplishments. Papaursa (talk) 04:30, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

• Previously, this article was nominated for deletion, which was rejected by User:Fabrictramp.1
• By WP:SPORTSPERSON and there are many reliable sources in the article as Bloomberg, Benzinga, Yahoo and... as can't be ignored.
• By WP:NWSRC Iran: There are plenty of resources. Tehran Times, Mehr News, ILNA, ISNA, IRNA, IRIB, Iran Daily and and more than 50 news in government, national and official news agencies of Iran.
• By WP:NWSRC Thailand: Bangkok Post.
• By WP:NWSRC Nigeria: Vanguard.
• Reza Goodary is the only and the first Iranian martial artist who has fought in six different martial arts styles and has been able to win world and international places in three styles.1, 2, 3
• He has been honored many times by Iranian officials, including the Minister of Sports,1 (Link open only with Iran IP. Protected by Iran Ministry of sport) and has also participated in interviews and live programs on Iranian radio and television. Farsi Google Search.
• This article is old and has been edited and updated many times by members of martial arts wiki projects. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.204.251.47 (talk) 07:43, 16 August 2022 (UTC)