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This article by former SAGE member Stephen Reicher may be useful: [1] Bondegezou (talk) 09:06, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It paused

https://news.sky.com/story/queue-to-see-queen-lying-in-state-around-four-miles-long-with-11-hour-wait-12698640

©Geni (talk) 16:32, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Hi folks,

Is it worth us putting together a DYK request between those of us who've been editing it? Obviously it would be immediately put on hold due to the AfD and a potential merge (although if it merges into a completely new article, such as the proposed Lying in State one, that would still be fine), but we would want to avoid missing the 1-week deadline Nosebagbear (talk) 23:50, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think its worthwhile preparing for all outcomes of the AFD. Seddon ^talk 01:54, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have often started a DYK nomination in such circumstances to ensure that the 7-day deadline is met and this usually works well. See Dog & Bull, for example. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:30, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Earliest deadline is the 22nd, however, we also meet the 5x criterion, which is sometime on the 23rd, so there's plenty of time. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:48, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Early possibilities for hooks would appear to be:

i) Max length (time)

ii) Max length (length)

iii) Number of people who queued (known as of Monday)

iv) A good number of humorous ones

I suspect the 3rd is probably the most suitable, once it's published. Nosebagbear (talk) 11:57, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If we hear back from Guinness World Records about the size of The Queue then that would be a good hook XxLuckyCxX (talk) 12:21, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Crossnamespace redirect

Thought I'd bring it here rather than unilateral action (as it's not directly policy breaking).

Why do we have the CNR to categories in the organisation section? It's got a lot of irrelevant stuff, and having any CNR in the middle of an article feels kind of odd. I'd rather see if there were one or two directly relevant articles and build in "see alsos" or bake into text, rather than just pointing to a full category. Thoughts? Nosebagbear (talk) 10:54, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I thought it looked odd too. Looking into it, it appears that that template is intended for use on category pages, not within articles. It seems to be being used as a substitute for a link to an article about queue management. That's currently a redirect to queue management system which is focussed on software solutions so we need a more general article about the physical aspects too. I added a piped link to queue area to the lead as queue is a disambiguation page. Part of the trouble may be that Americans don't tend to recognise the word and so talk about standing in line instead. This is a good opportunity to improve our general coverage of the topic and then we can revise the link accordingly. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:19, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Makes sense! Nosebagbear (talk) 11:23, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious

The video of Tilda Swinton at the source cited seems to have been filmed at St Giles' Cathedral. Peter Ormond 💬 12:06, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch on this! Seddon ^talk 12:21, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Images

I have added a stylised QEII Queue image a couple of times but this keeps being wiped. I'm not sure why or what rule it contravenes as it decoratively improves the page, yet some wiki users keep dropping it with no explanation. Could one of those who removed it explain what rules they believe it is breaking, as I believed Wikipedia is created by the people, for the people. CivitasClub (talk) 15:39, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Image added by account V8Maverick, which is a personal / noncommercial account. CivitasClub (talk) 15:40, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Capitalisation

Should instances of "the queue" be capitalised in the article? It's inconsistent at the moment ("The queue begins in Westminster Hall..." in "Route" and "The Queue started in the early morning..." in "Progress"). Alextheconservative (talk) 17:40, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, it's a bit all over the place. There are a few "queues" that must be lower case, because they're talking about the general concept/object "primary queue", "secondary queue" (etc). However, as you say, outside of those, we either need all "The Queue" or "The queue" (after the first usage). Nosebagbear (talk) 18:38, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Citation for name

A screenshot of the BBC using "The Queue" as a place name in BBC Weather: https://i.redd.it/4r3g0jl4rdo91.jpg David G (talk) 17:42, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I imagine it would still be a copyright violation, as it's a direct copy of a BBC image. Nosebagbear (talk) 18:39, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't suggesting it be used in the article, just as a reference for the name of the article being correct. David G (talk) 19:06, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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	:I imagine it would still be a copyright violation, as it's a direct copy of a BBC image. [[User:Nosebagbear\|Nosebagbear]] ([[User talk:Nosebagbear\|talk]]) 18:39, 17 September 2022 (UTC)		:I imagine it would still be a copyright violation, as it's a direct copy of a BBC image. [[User:Nosebagbear\|Nosebagbear]] ([[User talk:Nosebagbear\|talk]]) 18:39, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
			::I wasn't suggesting it be used in the article, just as a reference for the name of the article being correct. [[User:DavidCWG\|David G]] ([[User talk:DavidCWG\|talk]]) 19:06, 17 September 2022 (UTC)