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Featured Article Save Award for Natalie Clifford Barney

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Health Liberation Now listed at Reliable Sources Noticeboard

A discussion on whether Health Liberation Now, a conversion therapy watchdog organization which tracks the attacks on trans healthcare and forces behind them, should be considered a reliable source. TheTranarchist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 16:20, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Relisted on the RSN noticeboard in a better format to faciliate discussion of various options including 1) using without in-text attribution 2) using with in-text attribution and 3) not using as a source. TheTranarchist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 04:59, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Cherry Valentine

Project members are invited to review Cherry Valentine ahead of a possible Good article nomination. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:05, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

I've nominated the article for Good status if any project members are interested in reviewing. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:58, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

LGB Alliance

• LGB Alliance

This is a transphobic hate group.

For now comment requested with the first sentence

• Talk:LGB_Alliance#First_sentence:_opposed_to_transgender_rights_movement

Also apparently Jimbo Wales expresses that the organization is not transphobic. See also the comments of Jimbo Wales.

• Talk:LGB_Alliance#A_classic_problem_with_categories

Bluerasberry (talk) 12:34, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

@Bluerasberry: please try to use a more neutral call for comments. Consider reading WP:APPNOTE for some tips. Isabelle ^{🏴‍☠️} 16:17, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

@Isabelle Belato: Acknowledged and you correct. Discussion goes on the target page and calls for comments should not predispose anyone to the way they should comment. Wikipedia can only work when people follow the rules and I was in error. I left my errors visible but reworded. I regret and will not do this again. Thanks for calling me out. Bluerasberry (talk) 13:11, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at WP:THQ § Legal name change and updating deadname

 You are invited to join the discussion at WP:THQ § Legal name change and updating deadname. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:26, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps someone from this WikiProject could take a look at this TH question and see if they can help this person out. It might be better helpful if someone familiar with how such things on Wikipedia steps in and tries to sort this out. Someone might also want to take a look at 1976 Summer Olympics and see whether any updates are needed for Caitlyn Jenner since the article still refers to Jenner as "Bruce Jenner". -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:29, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Athletics at the 1976 Summer Olympics and Athletics at the 1976 Summer Olympics – Men's decathlon have already been updated as per community consensus. MOS:DEADNAME deals with this already. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 01:44, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

1976 Summer Olympics#Highlights, however, still refers to Jenner as "Bruce". -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:56, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Some further digging found this September 2015 edit which removed any mention of "Caitlyn Jenner". I can't determine whether such content was subsequently re-added and removed again, and the editor who made the September 2015 change has been indefinitely blocked. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:21, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Problem with offensive slurs as redirects

Hello everyone. Recently, while browsing Wikipedia, I have found redirects titled "Trans f*g" (censured here to now disturb readers). Such redirects shouldn't be present on Wikipedia, as they are slurs, and part of the hate speech, and created by transphobic and homophobic people. This brought to my attention, that we should make sure, that this isn't a bigger precedence, and check if there are any other such hateful redirects on Wikipedia, and if we find them, delete them. Thank you for your attention, sincerely, Artemis Andromeda (talk) 21:43, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

@Artemis Andromeda: Sorry, Wikipedia is not censored. 154.20.213.253 (talk) 03:31, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

New WP:POV editors

I have noticed a couple of recent arrivals of new accounts engaging in edits on gender identity-related pages from a WP:FRINGE POV associated with Genspect and the SEBGM. This happens from time to time, of course, but I expect we may be seeing more of it particularly if, as I suspect, off-wiki coordination is involved. Just posting here so others are also aware. Newimpartial (talk) 00:56, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Alice Di Micele

The article Alice Di Micele has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

While there is a tenuous claim of significance (and so fails speedy), there is no claim of notability.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. UtherSRG (talk) 01:45, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Maud Molyneux, trans French actress

I created a draft for Maud Molyneux. She was quite active in the French nightlife scene in the 1970s and 1980s. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 02:17, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Do some LGBT articles on Main need a disambiguation pointing here?

should LGBT community (Start) and Queer studies (C class), LGBT (B class) as an indirect advertisement of the LGBT+ WP community?

( i would be in favour of if you want to help on LGBT articles go here, but I think I am in the minority)(

Also do you think the classes on the above three articles look too low? Wakelamp d[@-@]b (talk) 07:08, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Both of those articles already "indirectly" link here by virtue of being rated as articles within this project on their talk pages, so I would say that disambiguatory links leading here from the tops of the articles aren't necessary since they already have project boxes on their talk pages. As for the ratings, the thing is that while articles are initially "rated" as of the time the talk page gets created, Wikipedians actually have very little if any follow-through on reassessing articles for rating changes as the articles grow and develop. In truth, the only consistently reliable takeaway you can glean from any article's talk page "rating" is what class the article was initially created at, because nobody's actually doing the work of comprehensively reviewing already-rated articles with an eye to revising the class ratings they were given at the start. That's a universal issue with Wikipedia in general, not a failing unique to those two articles. Bearcat (talk) 12:22, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Question regarding standard treatment for gender dysphoria

At Society for Evidence-Based Gender Medicine the question has been raised whether there is a general professional standard for the treatment of gender dysphoria. (The Society disputes the validity and effectiveness of the affirmative care model.) More expertise on this question (and more eyes on the page) would be helpful. Newimpartial (talk) 14:10, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography#Neopronouns RfC [moved], which is within the scope of this WikiProject. This discussion is an RfC on allowing use of neopronouns in articles and may be of interest to project members. Thanks. Sideswipe9th (talk) 22:11, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

What about Dylan Mulvaney?

Does anyone think Dylan Mulvaney should have a Wikipedia article? Dwanyewest (talk) 05:16, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

I’m not convinced that she’s much beyond the WP:BLP1E threshold yet. I’m not seeing much in the way of significant coverage from reliable sources in the first 3 pages of a google of her and what’s there is mostly (vastly mostly) bigots complaining that she even exists. So at the moment I’d not expect an article on her to survive a CSD-A7 challenge, let alone an AfD, and I’d expect it to be a magnet for every GC in the world to maliciously edit. But I could easily be proved wrong by a good draftspace article being created first, so of course YMMV. — Trey Maturin has spoken 21:08, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Pregnancy

There is currently a rather raucous discussion taking place about whether to mention Trans pregnancy in the lead section of the article. Newimpartial (talk) 18:21, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Breast_binding:Talk

I started a discussion proposing changing the title of "Breast binding" to "Chest binding." I am curious to see what people think about changing it. Iscargra (talk) 12:58, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Question maybe looking for a consensus

Hello, I'm not a member of this project, and despite being an ally outside of Wikipedia I don't usually edit LGBT related articles, it's primarily sports. But I do have a question that potentially falls under both. Even if you aren't a football fan, I'm sure most people have heard of Aaron Hernandez, the former NFL player who was convicted of murder and killed himself in prison. A recent edit to the page got me thinking, is there a specific policy or consensus of when LGBT related categories are added to a page? I'm asking this because Hernandez himself never publicly came out as gay while he was still alive but a multitude of people that knew him have said he was. I don't think WP:NFL is a good place for this discussion because this specific thing isn't related to his football career. I guess what I'm asking is should he have LGBT related categories on his page despite never coming out himself?--Rockchalk717 16:58, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

WP:LGBT/Scope

I've created a new project sub-page at WP:LGBT/Scope (linked to from WP:LGBT/Editing), discussing when and how to tag articles as in scope for WP:LGBT. Input from other editors is welcome.--Trystan (talk) 15:02, 5 November 2022 (UTC)