Talk:Mount Ararat

Confusing adjective?

The article states that the mount is outside "modern Armenia". I think it would be better to say "current" because "modern" could be taken to mean the modern period (1492-1789).

Since when a mountain inside of a country has shown in two different maps?

Mount Ağrı/Ararat is located entirely in Turkish soil. Why there's an Armenian map shown? Even there are international mountains like Saint Elias, Mount Alverstone, Mount Cook (Saint Elias Mountains), Mount Stanley exists they have only one country's maps. Mountain is totally in Turkey, not a single part in Armenia.

Also, why this question deleted? I am going to push for this until a rational answer. Wikipedia is not a tyranny for mods.

Those are WP:OTHERSTUFF, no consensus or valid reason to change anything. - Kevo³²⁷ (talk) 13:47, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Regarding this section;

Mount Ararat (/ˈærəræt/ ARR-ə-rat; Armenian: Մասիս, romanized: Masis or Արարատ, Ararat; Kurdish: Grîdax or Çiyayê Agirî, Turkish: Ağrı Dağı),

Shouldn't the local name in paranthesis of a mountain within Turkey be mentioned in the Turkish language first (due to its legal status), and perhaps Kurdish afterwards (due to the population surrounding it)? This is simply the commonplace way to deal with such naming, mind you, with prominent places in Arab-majority areas of Israel being mentioned first in Hebrew and so on. There is no reason aside from it is very important to these people for this page to be an exception.

Not to even mention a lack of sections on the Turkish and Kurdish cultural significance of the mountain despite the myriad of media and works of fiction around it, from pop music to local folk tales. It is clearly unreasonable to suggest the tallest mountain entirely located within a state wouldn't be among its national symbols. Foora (talk) 17:28, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Foora, a lot of disruptive editing goes into the native language versions, as a solution It's been reordered into alphabetical order, it doesn't make any difference which language is before another, and the article clearly states that the mountain is in Turkey. As for the lack of content about it's significance to the Turkish and Kurdish peoples, feel free to add the content you notice is missing with the appropriate reliable sources. - Kevo³²⁷ (talk) 17:36, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Citation Needed and it reversion

To Yerevantsi, I don't hold grudge against your or your ethnicity's background. But judge from your name that implied you are an Armenian, I don't see any urgency of you to always reverted or undo that I put on the introduction of Ararat's page. If we wanted to improve this article, we need to put the citation for what can be considered as "claim". By giving I by no mean willingly move and motivate to vandalise or undermine Armenian topics in en.wiki. Perhaps, instead of keeping reverse it, you can put the source that backs the claim up. Thank you, շնորհակալություն, shnorhakalutyun. Mfikriansori (talk)

Source?

Zhomron Please tell me which part of this is sourced? Those edits didn't in fact include a source and removed a source from the article (sfn|Petrosyan|2016|p=68), so I reverted them. Also, WP:ONUS to reach consensus is on those seeking to include disputed content. So please revert yourself and reach consensus. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 19:09, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

You removed almost the entirety of the Hebrew variants which are sourced in the cited reference. That is the sourced content you removed. Zhomron (talk) 19:32, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Glaciation name

Using the North American name (Wisconsinan) for the last glaciation seems a bit odd for a mountain in West Asia. There might be one for Asia, but if not I'd use the Alpine W\"urm which is at least geographically closer. Or just say Last Glaciation. 2A01:CB08:4E:8A00:74AA:1A08:58DC:A2C3 (talk) 11:51, 2 October 2022 (UTC)