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[[:Category:1878 births]] currently has 4,281 article. [[:Category:1877 births]] has 4,050 articles.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert#top|talk]]) 15:57, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
[[:Category:1878 births]] currently has 4,281 article. [[:Category:1877 births]] has 4,050 articles.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert#top|talk]]) 15:57, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

== "Bobby" was there ==
for 14 years, and not everybody knows what cryptic abbrevations mean. --[[User:Nicola|Nicola]] ([[User talk:Nicola|talk]]) 21:26, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

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Nomination of Gary P. Gillum for deletion

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Sculptors in British India

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1883 births

I am starting a review of Category:1883 births. It currently has 4,820 articles.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:02, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

== Nomination of Henry Douglas Shawcross for deletion

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Emigrants from British Nigeria to Sierra Leone

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Harold Shurtleff

Harold Shurtleff was when I found it an article that focused only on him being an artist who competed in the Olympic Arts competition. Shurtleff seems to have been much more important as a historian. His book The Log Cabin Myth: A Study of the Early Dwellings of the English Colonists in North America seems to have been a very widely reviewed book when it came out in early 1940. His full name was Harold Robert Shurtleff. I have tried to add some more sourcing, but there is probably more out there I have not yet found.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:22, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

1880s births

Category:1883 births that I have just finished reviewing has 4,705 articles. Category:1882 births has 4,715 articles.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:33, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Educators from the Austro-Hungarian Empire

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Categories (again)

I raised concerns a month ago (to which I never received a reply, as far as I can tell, you just removed the post) about you replacing incorrect categories with less specific ones, rather than the correct ones - but you are still at it. If I see it again I will have to raise it at ANI. GiantSnowman 16:35, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • I am trying to avoid unilaterrally declaring articles in a specific birth category. I have previously been taken to ANI by people complaining about me putting articles in a new specific category without making sure that the new category was justified. Moving categories to less specific categories that cover what is mentioned here seems to me to be a safe revision that avoids declaring one category right. It allows people to easily see that there is some less than clear knowledge about what birth category the person belongs in, and leaves it clear to other editors that there may be a need for further research to determine which specific birth category is needed.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:38, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    If the article says somebody is born in 1883, it should be categories in category:1883 births. It should not be in category:1880s births. If you are not comfortable with this then I politely suggest you stop your little task GiantSnowman 16:40, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • The previous discussion I was attacked for moving an article in exactly the same situation, because I was said to be ignoring the possible history of why the article was in a category other than what the article text said.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:43, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      I doubt you were 'attacked', but such edits should not have been brought to ANI. The birth year category should match the birth year in the article; if that happens to be incorrect, then so be it. Both can be corrected when new sources are found. Furthermore, adding '1880s births' category does not deal with the apparent problem - what happens if it turns out somebody was actually born in 1879? GiantSnowman 16:46, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      Here is some quotes from that ANI "I noticed this editor on John Pack Lambert's talk page; they were constantly repeating the question What research did you do before you made your edit to the category? despite it already having been answered with I assume text is more correct, especially when there are multiple statements in the text.
I don't know much about categorization policies, but it did come across as uncivil WP:BADGERing. BilledMammal (talk) 14:06, 1 July 2022 (UTC)"[reply]
    • So some people clearly felt that what was being thrown at me there was uncivil. I was even told "JPL, I think you should change your approach and here's why: what you're doing is like clearing a bug report without fixing the bug. If the text and category don't match, at least we are aware of a potential error. If you always match category to text, yes that's technically within policy, but it's not a good idea anyway." So yes, there clearly are those who feel that intentionally matching the category to the text when they do not match is not a good thing. I will in the future try to find more information on when the birth was, and based on that I will try to make the text of the article reflect what that source says. Henry McKenzie was an attempt to do that. It has since been edited to not make any statement about when he was born.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:56, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Billy Scott (footballer born 1884)

Was Billy Scott (footballer born 1884) born in 1882 as the article states, or in 1884 as the heading states?John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:23, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

1882, see https://nifootball.blogspot.com/2007/09/billy-scott.html and http://www.mightyleeds.co.uk/players/scottbilly.htm User:Yleventa2 217.180.219.178 (talk) 18:56, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:French people in French Madagascar

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1880s births

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Spanish migrants to Spanish Puerto Rico

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1880 and 1881 birth year categories

I have just finished reviewing Category:1881 births. It has 4,352 articles. Category:1880 births now has 4,469 articles.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:37, 22 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Businesspeople in British Malaya

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Weapons designers from France

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1978 establishments in Liberia

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Happy New Year, Johnpacklambert!

Happy New Year!

Johnpacklambert,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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Thankyou very much. The message is aporeciated.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:56, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1956 establishments in Bahrain

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1880 and 1879

I have completed reviewing 1880 births. The category Category:1880 births currently has 4,343 articles. I have begun reviewing 1879 births, that category, Category:1879 births currently has 4,485 articles.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:24, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Argentine emgirants to Paraguay

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Emigrants from Prussia

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Principality of Montenegro emigrants to the United States

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CNNRC question

Is Harry a common enough nickname for Harold that it does not need to be included in quotes?John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:00, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Principality of Montenegro emigrants

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Austro-Hungairan inventors

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Politicians from the Ottoman Empire

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"Latin Rite Catholic Church (splinter group)" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Renaissance humanists from the Ottoman Empire

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Swedish expartriates in Portugal

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Emigrants from the Seychelles to Australia

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Indian independence activists in British India

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1870s birth year cats

Category:1879 births has 4,395 articles. Category:1878 births has 4,366 articles. By comparison, Category:1978 births has 15,157 articles, Category:1979 births has 15,916 articles. The largest by year birth year category is Category:1988 births with 18,043, followed closely by Category:1989 births with 18,023 articles. The actual largest year of birth category is Category:Year of birth missing (living people) with 147,681 articles followed by Category:Year of birth missing with 20,740 articles.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:57, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Australian emigrants to Venezuela

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Expatriates of Cape Colony in the United Kingdom

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Expatriates of Egypt in the United Kingdom

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:French Spanish-language writers

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Ghanaian mathematician

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Emigrants from Japan to Yugoslavia

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Emigrants from Yugoslavia to Greece

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Sportspeople in British India

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Miltiadis Koimisis

Please stop polluting Wikipedia biographies with your careless editing. An unexplained,unsourced infobox change, contradicting the article text and the no English texts should not be reinforced. 166.149.176.33 (talk) 18:39, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gordon James (actor)

Could you please edit intelligently? Replacing a well sourced date, matching that used in other language wikis, with a date based on IMDB, is just plain destructive 166.149.176.24 (talk) 21:18, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    • The edit to saying the birth was in 1877 was actually done by a user names Narias2018 back in 2018. I only edited the categories to agree with what was in the article text. I have placed the birth date in the main body of the article which will make it easier to add sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:34, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Williams College staff

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1870s births

Category:1878 births currently has 4,281 article. Category:1877 births has 4,050 articles.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:57, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Bobby" was there

for 14 years, and not everybody knows what cryptic abbrevations mean. --Nicola (talk) 21:26, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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