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:My reply at [[Talk:Valley Waters#Awkward NB Village]] applies to this as well. Please keep discussion there moving forward so that this isn’t in three or more places. In the meantime, please review [[MOS:GEOUNITS]] as it relates to capitalization of municipal statuses, which are not proper nouns unless being used within official legal names. If you look at NB’s [https://laws.gnb.ca/en/ShowPdf/cs/2017-c.18.pdf enabling legislation], municipal status types are lowercased. Wikipedia and provincial legislation are consistent. I had to go through the same learning curve when I started on Wikipedia about 13 years ago. [[User:Hwy43|Hwy43]] ([[User talk:Hwy43|talk]]) 10:40, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
:My reply at [[Talk:Valley Waters#Awkward NB Village]] applies to this as well. Please keep discussion there moving forward so that this isn’t in three or more places. In the meantime, please review [[MOS:GEOUNITS]] as it relates to capitalization of municipal statuses, which are not proper nouns unless being used within official legal names. If you look at NB’s [https://laws.gnb.ca/en/ShowPdf/cs/2017-c.18.pdf enabling legislation], municipal status types are lowercased. Wikipedia and provincial legislation are consistent. I had to go through the same learning curve when I started on Wikipedia about 13 years ago. [[User:Hwy43|Hwy43]] ([[User talk:Hwy43|talk]]) 10:40, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
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== Administrative unit requires legal name article title to be accurate ==

The state legal definition usage at the exclusion of other definitions does not appear to stand, nor should it, despite interest in their merger.

the only community that can be called a village is a legal jurisdiction, right?

I did not need to scroll far on the talk page of entry:[[Village]] to find the discussion.

I have resorted to going a step further than @[[User:G. Timothy Walton|G. Timothy Walton]] who puts talk in the edit descriptions, by putting talk in the article because of the refusal to acknowledge the problem with leaving it up to readers to assume what is meant by "village". Allowing for potential confusion is negligent. [[User:Placeographer77|Placeographer77]] ([[User talk:Placeographer77|talk]]) 05:13, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

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Awkward Village

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


In the turnaround days that are the Higg's conservative Government, the merged/emerged local gov't landscape didn't help with the awkwardness we've experienced in regional local jurisdictions for fifty years.

Case in point, Village of Valley Waters. Fundy Albert is also calling themselves "Village of Fundy Albert" The capital "v" Village is the municipal entity type or model, rather then a centre of settlement activity and community. That is, they have the legislation afforded to Villages (not Towns, Cities, Regional Municipalities, Rural Communities, etc.)

They were each capital "v" Villages, Norton, Sussex Corner, Peticodiac, Salisbury, Alma, Riverside-Albert, Hillsborough, before Jan. 2023, when they were municipal jurisdictions on their own.

Now they are small "v" villages, just as Hopewell cape was a village and is a village in the Village of Fundy Albert.

So, an awkwardness arises in that the type of municipality is tacked on to the legal name. So in the case of Fundy Albert, they have put in the name the word "Village", which is pretty awkward in the sense of the word's meaning when you consider the dispersed nature of the communities contained in the jurisdiction.

It is not necessary to put "village of" in the name just because it is incorporated as a "Village". It would help a lot if the naming were to respond to the reality of the entity. That is, we are now some kind of a region. What kind of region?

It is not correct to say that the former Villages are unincorporated since they reside in the new, larger regional corporate entity, i.e. Hillsborough, New Brunswick. in this case, the community incorporated under the municipalities act (or local governance act, or is it the department of Environment and local government and local government reform acts and regulations lol, what evs).... goes into the bigger municipal container.

I'm going ahead and editing this article for clarity (and sanity).

https://laws.gnb.ca/en/showfulldoc/cs/2017-c.18//20230325 Spooninpot (talk) 16:55, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My reply at Talk:Valley Waters#Awkward NB Village applies to this as well. Please keep discussion there moving forward so that this isn’t in three or more places. In the meantime, please review MOS:GEOUNITS as it relates to capitalization of municipal statuses, which are not proper nouns unless being used within official legal names. If you look at NB’s enabling legislation, municipal status types are lowercased. Wikipedia and provincial legislation are consistent. I had to go through the same learning curve when I started on Wikipedia about 13 years ago. Hwy43 (talk) 10:40, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Administrative unit requires legal name article title to be accurate

The state legal definition usage at the exclusion of other definitions does not appear to stand, nor should it, despite interest in their merger.

the only community that can be called a village is a legal jurisdiction, right?

I did not need to scroll far on the talk page of entry:Village to find the discussion.

I have resorted to going a step further than @G. Timothy Walton who puts talk in the edit descriptions, by putting talk in the article because of the refusal to acknowledge the problem with leaving it up to readers to assume what is meant by "village". Allowing for potential confusion is negligent. Placeographer77 (talk) 05:13, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]