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:A number of so-called Chinese New Left scholars, including [[Cui Zhiyuan]], are strong supporters of the Beijing consensus. [[User:Zhejiu Pjet|Zhejiu Pjet]] ([[User talk:Zhejiu Pjet|talk]]) 18:29, 6 May 2023 (UTC) |
:A number of so-called Chinese New Left scholars, including [[Cui Zhiyuan]], are strong supporters of the Beijing consensus. [[User:Zhejiu Pjet|Zhejiu Pjet]] ([[User talk:Zhejiu Pjet|talk]]) 18:29, 6 May 2023 (UTC) |
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Hu Ping is a common name in China, there are probably more than 10,000 Hu Pings in China. One Hu Ping I know, 胡平, is a liberal intellectual who has nothing to do with the Chinese New Left. [[User:ISO lOI9|ISO lOI9]] ([[User talk:ISO lOI9|talk]]) 14:34, 31 May 2023 (UTC) |
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I've just copy edited. Can someone cite some sources here? This is news to me, and I'd like to know what the person who felt confident enough to write this considers a good source. -- Jmabel 16:07, 10 May 2004 (UTC)
The 'Socialist Countryside'
The latest news [1] is that China is opting for subsidies and public services to overcome the current problems in the countryside, including tragedies like the Wang Binyu case.
The idea of privatising farmland is officially 'being considered' - very opaque, like most Chinese politics. But indicating some success for 'neo-leftism.
There have also been neo-liberal complaints that China is 'stagnating' [2] - which in neo-liberal terms it certainly is. But since the economy remains enormously successful, why change?
It may be years before we know what's been going on behind the scenes. But what we can see indiciates a slight leftward drift. No one is denouncing Deng's heritage - but then, he never denounced Mao.
The Tiananmen Papers include a section where Deng says he was always considered a Maoist, and indeed considered himself such. What he did could be considered a return to what Mao was doing in the 1950s.
--GwydionM 19:53, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Postmodernism
I think a bit much is made of postmodernism in this text. Whatever it is, it is not a concrete political philosophy or discernable popular movement, which is definitely what is implied with this paragraph:
- Liberals also criticise postmodernism, which they argue is inappropriate for China because it is still not developed enough, and at the moment does not yet face some of the particular problems that have occurred in some developed countries that in turn gave rise to postmodernist thought.
--Saforrest 14:29, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- Whether it is or isn't a political philosophy, I don't understand the connection between it and the neo-leftism described in the article. Some clarification is needed. 217.132.11.23 21:04, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Move to 'Chinese New Left'?
This term got 137 Google hits, as against 183 for 'Neo-Leftism', with many of those looking like they are derived from the Wikipedia entry. Saying Chinese New Left would be more comprehensible and more accurate, since this is the term the people themselves use for translating their ideas into English.
--GwydionM 18:00, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Would like to see more New Left ideas and their sources
I see a lot of liberal and neo-liberal criticism of the New Left, but I still don't see or read about enough New Left ideals to have a good enough grasp on what their core values are. Personally I don't think it's just a simple case of nostalgia, because there seems to be a lot of modern-day nonintellectuals who are buying into New Leftism. Anyways just would like to read more about these guys and their ideas. Children of the dragon (talk) 11:23, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Quick Info Box
Nice job - I think one thing that would add to the page is a quick-info box on the top left that includes major players. An example is on Marie's page. You can just copy and paste the formatting from her page. DyzySyzygy (talk) 01:30, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
NPOV
This article has several inaccuracies starting with the introduction section. Try reading some of the prominent New Left scholars like Wang Hui for a better idea of what the New Left represents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.19.102.40 (talk) 08:35, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
Indeed! This reads like a rightwing-neoliberal hitpiece. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.8.61.45 (talk) 06:17, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Revision
This article might need some revision: especially updating information on the New Left in Xi's era. For example, in the "Chongqing Model" section, the fate of Bo Xilai should be mentioned. Also, the party's current attitude towards the New Left should be provided. I don't think the Beijing Consensus should be categorized in its current position. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ComradeBobLiu (talk • contribs) 02:24, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
- A number of so-called Chinese New Left scholars, including Cui Zhiyuan, are strong supporters of the Beijing consensus. Zhejiu Pjet (talk) 18:29, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
Which Hu Ping?
Hu Ping is a common name in China, there are probably more than 10,000 Hu Pings in China. One Hu Ping I know, 胡平, is a liberal intellectual who has nothing to do with the Chinese New Left. ISO lOI9 (talk) 14:34, 31 May 2023 (UTC)