Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga

Proposed split of List of Pokémon anime characters

Inactive talk page over at List of Pokémon anime characters, so I'm putting it here as well. (Please respond at the source page, linked directly below)

Creating a page for "Genjitsu no Yohane: Sunshine in the Mirror" spinoff?

I posted about this a while ago, back in April, on here, but I'd like your thoughts on whether I should create a page for this spinoff from Love Live! Sunshine!! or if I should just incorporate it into the Love Live! Sunshine!! page. I came up with a draft page back in April, but was planning to add a bit more to the page to add in some more current information sometime soon. I look forward to hearing from you. Historyday01 (talk) 17:38, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

@Historyday01: It's premiered already and has reviews at ANN and Fandom Post ([1] [2]), and it's getting a video game in November ([3], [4]). So, feel free to improve it and move it to mainspace. ミラP@Miraclepine 23:03, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Great! I will do that when I have some time. Historyday01 (talk) 01:13, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Just created it, at long last, at Yohane of the Parhelion: Sunshine in the Mirror. I copied the text over from that draft, as its a sandbox, and I might use it in the future for some other series. Not sure who the directors, writers, or storyboarders are for each episode, though, and IMDB was no help in that (unsurprisingly).Historyday01 (talk) 22:02, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

@Historyday01: I've added the episode staff. Also, the official English title doesn't contain "of", so the article title should be Yohane the Parhelion: Sunshine in the Mirror. Harushiga (talk) 12:35, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! Thanks for the tip. It does call it "YOHANE THE PARHELION -SUNSHINE in the MIRROR" on Crunchyroll, so I'll move it to "Yohane the Parhelion: Sunshine in the Mirror" that right away. Historyday01 (talk) 12:37, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Please upload for anime key visual for Yohane the Parhelion: Sunshine in the Mirror okay. Lovemuhcko (talk) 14:47, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

@Lovemuhcko:  Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 18:01, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

 Done at File:Yohane the Parhelion anime key visual.jpg. ミラP@Miraclepine 18:54, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Enzai: Falsely Accused

The article Enzai: Falsely Accused has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

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Good article reassessment for Pikachu

Pikachu has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:20, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Moving Draft:Ayaka: A Story of Bonds and Wounds to the mainspace.

Since Ayaka was moved into the draftspace, there has been numerous news articles about the anime, from those mentioning the removal of one Takahiro Sakurai from the cast to those revealing to when it premieres. I think it's now appropriate to move it into the mainspace. SimonLagann (talk) 19:32, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

I would recommend renaming the article as Ayaka (TV series) due to MOS:SUBTITLE and the fact that the original Japanese title doesn't have the subtitle. I also think this article still needs some work such as plot and reception because currently it looks like a press release where it just lists the cast and staff who worked on the film. lullabying (talk) 20:22, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Reception could come after the first episode premieres and ANN, as per usual, covers it during their preview columns. SimonLagann (talk) 20:28, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

The plot is mentioned in some of the articles cited in the draft, but I'm not good with paraphrasing. SimonLagann (talk) 20:57, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

I think the full title will be fine as a title; MOS:SUBTITLE states When the most commonly used name is ambiguous, the full title and subtitle might be suitable to be used as a form of natural disambiguation (see WP:NATURALDIS) and gives the example to use Orlando: A Biography over Orlando (book). Link20XX (talk) 21:49, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Request

Hello. I request for the creation of the "List of manga" article containing all of the manga that has ever been done (translated and not) which is lacking because there isn't one yet. I have already asked for this at the talk page of the article of manga but no one did that. Please reply! Thanks! 186.109.170.149 (talk) 15:27, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

It's no wonder no one has planning on creating such article, because it would be absurdly and needlessly long. It's like asking for a single list of every film released or book published. Xexerss (talk) 15:37, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Well. It could be done, alongside the supposed "list of books", "list of comics", "list of films", "List of series", "List of music", "list of video games", "list of anime" and "list of documentary films"

They could remain incomplete, for all I care, but at least they are created because they are necessary 190.31.233.2 (talk) 06:37, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

See also: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of manga. Link20XX (talk) 17:10, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Utena

There is a request for Utena to be moved to Utena (city) at Talk:Utena. Thought this WikiProject might be interested. — Prodraxis {talk • contributions} (she/her) 21:31, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Crunchyroll LLC#Requested move 2 July 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Crunchyroll LLC#Requested move 2 July 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 11:03, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Split discussion at Bakugan Battle Brawlers

Thought I might post here to attract some attention to the topic at Talk:Bakugan Battle Brawlers regarding splitting the information about the larger Bakugan franchise into its own article at Bakugan, which is currently a redirect at RfD. ― Synpath 23:48, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

An interesting situation with the source

The situation is this. We have a reputable source that confirms that the anime character was the first queer protagonist in the franchise, and it's easy to verify even without a source if you have even a smattering of knowledge. But the source was quick to announce this even before the character was canonically confirmed as a queer. So the question is, can the source be used to claim, if they were actually right, but wrote about it at the time of speculation, before actual confirming the sexuality of the character by the author? As I said, this is a pretty obvious point and most sources are talking about it, but adding this I was met with accusations that I was supposedly "appeal to woke people" and that the status of the first queer protagonist in a cult major franchise was supposedly not significant, so I have to look formal sources, many of which, to put it mildly, are too hasty with conclusions even before the initial development of romance between the characters. Solaire the knight (talk) 12:19, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Just say it as it is. "[Whatever source] observed that [whatever] before this was confirmed by [the thing]." small jars tc 19:53, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

So, just to point out that even before it was successfully confirmed directly, a number of media outlets had already named the character as the first queer protagonist in the history of the franchise? Solaire the knight (talk) 20:46, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

I'd say that their claim that the character is queer before any canonical confirmation suggests that they're not reliable. And just from the name, you can assume Pride.com is going to be a biased source when it comes to LGBTQ+ topics, which is certainly acceptable in some matters, but doesn't lend them credit when we've seen them make a claim that isn't backed up.

They also list Kanji Tatsumi from Persona 4 as an LGBTQ+ character, though they do concede it's up for debate - it isn't confirmed in the source material. Their article on Sailor Moon and some other characters include some stretches too.

Some of their articles feel more like a tabloid than a reputable source, with posts like '14 Disney Channel Hotties Who Made Our Hearts Throb As Teens and 10 Times Celebs Talked About What They're Packing. DarkeruTomoe (talk) 22:21, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

The attempt is to source the phrase "first such protagonist in the franchise" specifically? I think it's fine to do that, because you (you general) are not using this source to back up that the character is queer (that's a separate source), you're using it to source "first". As I understand it, the intent is to go "Before [character] was confirmed queer by blah blah blah,[ref] X observed that [character] would have been the first queer protagonist in the franchise[ref]" (which is what SmallJars is saying). Whatever perceived bias of the source is, it isn't being used to cite that the character is queer, it's being used to cite that they are the first such protagonist in the franchise. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 22:38, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

I wouldn't say it's a good source for that, at least in my opinion.

It notes that 'The Witch From Mercury (which is streaming now on Crunchyroll) is the only franchise show led by a female character and after watching the first episode, fans now know it’s the first queer one as well' under the headline 'Gundam’s First Female & Queer Protagonist is Here in The Witch From Mercury'.

The source doesn't claim they would be the first queer protagonist, but makes a definitive statement that they are and claims that the first episode proves as such, which is not the case as Solaire implied above about them being too hasty with the claim. So we've seen that part of their statement is inaccurate (based on the first episode) and another part was correct but actually based on no evidence so not reputable. That she's the first female protagonist has been repeated quite often, but 'only franchise show led by a female character' is also iffy when considering Mobile Suit Gundam SEED C.E. 73: Stargazer (as the Witch from Mercury page currently mentions) is an earlier show this could apply to. So as a whole, it seems like trying to use a bad source to evidence a point. DarkeruTomoe (talk) 22:58, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honnêamise

Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honnêamise has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:54, 13 July 2023 (UTC)