User talk:Aintabli

Deletion of the "List_of_kakapo" page

Mr Aintabli, I understand you are at the origin of the removal of the "list of kakapo" page. While I may understand the concerns you had about this page, it has definitely notability value for the community for numerous reasons: - Kakapo recovery program is the most notable, most well-funded and most successful bird recovery program in New Zealand, birds were saved from the absolute brink of extinction. They were given names and so did their offspring, the fact those individual names are so important is because of their limited genepool and the fact that certain birds have to breed in order for the species to survive as a whole (most notably, the offspring of the Fiordland kakapo Richard Henry) - therefor, this information is key. - The article is well-sourced - the Twitter, Instagram and Facebook sources come directly from the New Zealand Department of COnservation that lead the program and are as such not a matter of controversy - The article is completely up to date with the control of those official sources - The article is important for the non-scientific community, as there is no other publicly available source of information for this list of birds - Due to the strong emotional bond many people within or outside New Zealnd (such as me) feel to these birds, it is important to have the names, especially since the information is correct - One would argue that when a list with no interest whatsoever such as like the succession order to the throne of a country exists, this list would be way more important. - To gauge the interest, I would suggest you take a look at takapodigs (Andrew Digby) - the science advisor for the kakapo recovery program page on Twitter, and on the Department of Conservation and Kakapo Recovery and Sirocco the Kakapo pages on Facebook and Instagram to see how thousands of people are literally rabid about the informations you deem uncrucial.

As such, I would ask you to return the page to wikipedia, or at the very least provide me the PDF of the last version of the page, so that at the very least I can follow it on my side and at least keep the info and share it with the (numerous) people interested in it.

Thanks for the read, I hope you take the appropriate measures in either restoring the page or merging it with the kakapo page.

Regarding AFD tag

Hello @Aintabli and asalam o alikum, you've put the tag on Cemal Polat's page and I think this is not a fair move sir, The page has significiant coverage and passing the WP:GNG clearly. The person has also helped the people of Turkiye in the recent earth quake with ten of thousands pounds. When I see the news in TV, I decided to write a page on him. He has been mentioned as the best selling author in various news websites, newspapers, and magazine. His restaurant received the award from the UK's top publication. I will be thankful if you could re check the references and help in removing the tag or simply make it better but not delete it. I am on Wikipedia since more than a year and I know the notability criteria. I could make a mistake but on Cemal's page I am satisfied that the references are passing the notability.

IntelisMust (talk) 09:42, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Please check WP:NBIO. The sources aren't good themselves to establish his notability. Most of them aren't even mainstream news media. He seems to be a businessperson, that's it. Authored books, owned places. There are thousands of people like that, and Wikipedia isn't for them. The only interesting thing is the award, but I cannot find anything about Gazette readers awards. Even if I could, it would be a long way from helping him reach the notable level. The best we could do is draftify the article. Aintabli (talk) 13:47, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Image in biographical infoboxes

Dear Aintabli, thank you for your quick reaction in Talk:Antoine Hamilton. It seems the topic is not limited to that article. I would have thought that images in biographical infoboxes would serve about the same purpose as ID-photos and should look like them. I have the impression there is no guidance pertaining to portraits in MOS:LEADIMAGE and the Biography Project does not seem to have its own guideline. Zooming in on portraits that show more than the head sometimes produces useful ID-photos and sometimes fails to do so. In my experience the failures usually are caused by a bad quality of the original portrait. In my opinion, an example of a successful zoom-in of that sort is Hugo Krabbe. Antoine Hamilton is certainly less successful. Perhaps I should zoom out a bit more. With many thanks and best regards, Johannes Schade (talk) 18:58, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

@Johannes Schade I would zoom out a bit more to have at least a portion of his shoulders there. Hugo Krabbe is more successful because we see more than just his head. Similarly, ID photos do also include the shoulders unlike the current zoomed-in picture of Hamilton. I couldn't find a specific guideline in MOS:LEADIMAGE on portraits as well, but one thing I can infer is that when we're zooming in, we often lose important features that help us in identifying that person, and MOS:LEADIMAGE article mentions that the picture ideally gives us a visual confirmation that we've arrived at the right page. In the case of Hamilton, we cannot see the full shape of his hair, which in my opinion is relevant to this quote. Thank you, Aintabli (talk) 20:24, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Dear Aintabli, what you say makes a lot of sense. I have now zoomed out more in Antoine Hamilton. His shoulder is hidden by his "hair", which is a wig. High and long wigs of curly hair were the fashion in his time in Western Europe. Bravo, your intervention has improved the article. With many thanks and best regards, Johannes Schade (talk) 07:37, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Dear Aintabli, FYI, I have added a short conclusion to the discussion on the Talk:Antoine Hamilton for the profit of the readers of that page. I wanted our discussion to be echoed there but wanted to give only essentials to keep it short. Thanks again for your efforts and the polite and efficient ways. Best regards and good bye, Johannes Schade (talk) 08:48, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Aintabli (talk) 15:50, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Tall Hajar, Jarabulus for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Tall Hajar, Jarabulus is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Dl.thinker (talk) 03:29, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Manavlar

@Aintabli, You changed the page from Manavlar, or Manav turks to manavs, that reads strange. What does the word Manavs mean? this is not the correct english translation from turkish, manavs is a custom word you created. You don't accept the map from the Turkish wikipedia either. But it shows the settlement area of the manavlar. Ne oldu sana? Bi'şey mi var? Manav Turk (talk) 15:28, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

@Manav Turk I did not [change] the page from Manavlar, or Manav turks to manavs. It appears to be Kumanof who did that. You can take a look at the move log and the redirects they created. You can discuss that with them. And you seem to have already commented on their talk page. I don't know why you are accusing me of creating a custom word, which I have nothing to do. Plus, you have already accused me of anti-Turkish sentiments, and that's not a good first impression for a beginner.

At least the part about the map has something to do with me. You may want to check WP:V, WP:RS, WP:OR. It needs a source on Wikimedia Commons, the lack of which makes it the personal opinion of whoever published it. If you have reliable sources for that map, feel free to add them to its page so that we can talk about readding. Aintabli (talk) 16:08, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

@Manav Turk The main reason why I changed the name of the Manavlar was to adapt it to English and the original page name. To give an example: The Cumans page is referred to as Cumans, not as Cuman Turks. In a way, I wanted to be official. Kumanof (talk) 10:48, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Zayn al-Din Qaraja

On 26 May 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Zayn al-Din Qaraja, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Zayn al-Din Qaraja was imprisoned and executed by the Mamluk Sultanate after he declared the independence of the Beylik of Dulkadir? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zayn al-Din Qaraja. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Zayn al-Din Qaraja), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Kusma (talk) 00:02, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Partial follow-up AfD

Hi, because you recently participated in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Turkic dynasties and countries, which also led to the deletion of Comparison of the Turkic states, I would like to invite you to participate in the partial follow-up Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Comparison of the Baltic states. The situation of these three pages is not exactly the same (because language family plays no role in these cases), but because many issues are similar, I've nominated them as well, and am curious what you think. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 08:26, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Mihran Toumajan

Hello, Aintabli. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Mihran Toumajan".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ✗plicit 12:41, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Manavs

This version of the Manavs page is better. Thank you for your help. In a way, it seems better that there are no propaganda-oriented opinions about the origin of Manavs. Kumanof (talk) 10:35, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Request

Hello.

Can you find any information about the status of the Gaziantep Mevlevi Culture and Foundation Works Museums and Gaziantep Museum of Archaeology? They are closed since the earthquake, but have they sustained damage in the earthquake?

I have seen recent photos of Gaziantep, and the damage it suffered is indeed awful. Somehow, after the clearing of the debris, the city looks worse, before it is going to be better, unless they build new buildings shoddily again and another powerful earthquake destroys them again.

Yours sincerely, 31.200.20.235 (talk) 16:24, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi, they appear to be open, but I couldn't find a specific news article, so I'm hesitating to add anything to these articles at the moment. I could find such a source for Zeugma Mosaic Museum but not for these two. Aintabli (talk) 19:18, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. 31.200.20.235 (talk) 16:01, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

And thanks for a good chuckle

[1] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:29, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Haha, you're welcome. Aintabli (talk) 11:35, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Writing with an accent ;-) Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:38, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Last time I checked, I didn't have 'ü' on the keyboard I was using then, so I don't know how that happened. Maybe a side effect of usually typing with umlauts or accents? LOL. Aintabli (talk) 12:02, 1 July 2023 (UTC)