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:However, some game fanatics feel that in the last couple of years, the award has been awarded for diplomatic reasons, cycling between the three or four largest game producers in Germany. |
:However, some game fanatics feel that in the last couple of years, the award has been awarded for diplomatic reasons, cycling between the three or four largest game producers in Germany. |
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Perhaps someone could find a source for this sentiment or rewrite the sentence entirely. [[User:Rossumcapek|Rossumcapek]] 14:43, 14 March 2006 (UTC) |
Perhaps someone could find a source for this sentiment or rewrite the sentence entirely. [[User:Rossumcapek|Rossumcapek]] 14:43, 14 March 2006 (UTC) |
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Hey so now it says "recent years have been more controversial" without any sort of explanation, let alone a citation. I'm going to delete it. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/115.64.37.47|115.64.37.47]] ([[User talk:115.64.37.47#top|talk]]) 05:55, 25 December 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
Hey so now it says "recent years have been more controversial" without any sort of explanation, let alone a citation. I'm going to delete it. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/115.64.37.47|115.64.37.47]] ([[User talk:115.64.37.47#top|talk]]) 05:55, 25 December 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Why is the image for this page the photo of some guy, rather than the image of the award itself? [[Special:Contributions/71.197.176.10|71.197.176.10]] ([[User talk:71.197.176.10|talk]]) 03:53, 28 July 2022 (UTC) |
Why is the image for this page the photo of some guy, rather than the image of the award itself? [[Special:Contributions/71.197.176.10|71.197.176.10]] ([[User talk:71.197.176.10|talk]]) 03:53, 28 July 2022 (UTC) |
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: @[[Special:Contributions/71.197.176.10|71.197.176.10]] ([[User talk:71.197.176.10|talk]]) - I am not sure which image you refer to, i.e. which images existed in 2021, as the Wikipedia page currently has no 'infobox' photo. However, if it is the current top image, i.e. the one of "Harald Schrapers", which has become a psedo-'Title Image', then I completely agree! I think the "Randy Flynn" photo, which shows the award in it, is a much better one as the 'Title Image' for the 'info box', until one is found which just shows the award itself. Let's start a discussion on this here! Please reply with your views, if you are reading this. [[User:SMargan|SMargan]] ([[User talk:SMargan|talk]]) 13:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== Redundancy of the "All Winners" Section == |
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I have noticed that the "All Winners" section appears to be duplicating the information that should be in the "Awards and nominees" section, if that section was fully complete. I am currently making changes to make the "Awards and nominees" section a complete set of tables from all the recipient of honours from 1978 to the current year. In the meantime, I am hoping that a discussion is started as to what function the other "All winners" section fulfills. Does it need deleting, or, at very least, having superfluous information, e.g. like the "Publisher" column, removed to simplify it and avoid information repitition. I hope this starts some discussion on what people see the point of the "All winners" section is. Everyone! Feel free to post your individual thoughts, in the form of a reply to this post. [[User:SMargan|SMargan]] ([[User talk:SMargan|talk]]) 13:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC) |
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The last sentence is unclear and misleading in its use of the verb expect. The winners cannot expect to sell 30 million copies.
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What is the game Focus? The article that was there was a Dutch band, which I moved to Focus (band). But the focus of a mirror isn't a game either. -phma
- See the new page Focus (board game) Percy Snoodle 15:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
NPOV
I removed the following sentence from the first paragraph:
- However, some game fanatics feel that in the last couple of years, the award has been awarded for diplomatic reasons, cycling between the three or four largest game producers in Germany.
Perhaps someone could find a source for this sentiment or rewrite the sentence entirely. Rossumcapek 14:43, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey so now it says "recent years have been more controversial" without any sort of explanation, let alone a citation. I'm going to delete it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.64.37.47 (talk) 05:55, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
"German-style"
Saying the Spiel des Jahres is an award for "German-style board games" seems like an unsupported assertion. The committee itself doesn't seem to impose any a priori "style" requirement on the candidates in its stated policies, other than that they be (A) board or card games (B) suitable for family play and (C) released in Germany (which, as per the usual confusion, is not what is meant by "German-style"). --Stellmach 15:22, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- I sort of agree; German-style board games is a terrible name (and it looks like it'll be moved to the IMO worse "Eurogames" soon, as a result of a hijacked RM) but the criteria there do match pretty well that is meant by condition B. I think it's worth linking to that page in some way, so I've linked "family style" to it. Percy Snoodle 15:33, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- My mistake, they've just closed the RM with "no consensus". Percy Snoodle 15:34, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- This seems like a good approach. The prize obviously carries a lot of weight in the designer games community and is hardly separable from that movement. But while being a designer game ("Eurogame," eek) probably helps to win a Spiel des Jahres, the prize is "for" (i.e. open to) family board games and card games in general. So, yeah, clearly a link is needed, but not the one we had. --Stellmach 17:03, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- What about instead describing these as European style non-knockout family board games. Non-knockout can be clarified with examples such as Monopoly or Risk, in which players are eliminated from the game before its ultimate conclusion. --Greg.Padilla 15:42, 08 June 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.19.176.235 (talk)
Sort order
Why is the list of children's game of the year in ascending order (by year), while the other lists are in descending order? --84.144.212.126 16:53, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Done - all lists have been set to ascending order at some point in the past. Retswerb (talk) 06:22, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Nominated
Should we modify the table to include the names of the games that were nominated each year? --Pixelface 17:48, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
List of Mensa Select recipients, the game award by American Mensa, just got a RFD. Could you peek in, and give your opinion? I just created the category Mind Games (Mensa), mentioned it on the Mensa discussion page, and the RFD popped up. samwaltz 18:06, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Klondike - wrong game is linked
The "Klondike" game that is linked in the article under Children's Game of the year (Klondike (board game)) has the same name but is not the same Klondike game that won the award. I'd like to repair this, but the award-winning one doesn't have its own article yet. I'm not sure how to resolve this - remove the link (leaving just the name of the game as an unlinked text), or change the link to a "red" one (link to an unwritten article). And if so, how to call the new link/article? "Klondike (board game 2)"? Or something else? 78.51.75.72 (talk) 14:19, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
- i did change it to Klondike (board game 2001) (not perfect, but better than wrong) Elvis (talk) 10:30, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Translation of the special awards
As far as I can see, the official title for the special awards read special award "beautiful game" (and not "most beautiful game") on the official website. Similar with the other special awards, there's no most or best use of indicated in the name of the special awards. Was it introduced on purpose or is it just a translation flaw? Thommey (talk) 20:19, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- I just found this and it supports what I said. I changed the special award names in the article. thommey (talk) 13:07, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Wrong link
|2004 |Recommended |Attika |Marcel-André Casasola Merkle |Rio Grande
Wrong link, linkes to an Island not a boardgame.
Done - Removed wikilink. Retswerb (talk) 06:00, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
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Why is the image for this page the photo of some guy, rather than the image of the award itself? 71.197.176.10 (talk) 03:53, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- @71.197.176.10 (talk) - I am not sure which image you refer to, i.e. which images existed in 2021, as the Wikipedia page currently has no 'infobox' photo. However, if it is the current top image, i.e. the one of "Harald Schrapers", which has become a psedo-'Title Image', then I completely agree! I think the "Randy Flynn" photo, which shows the award in it, is a much better one as the 'Title Image' for the 'info box', until one is found which just shows the award itself. Let's start a discussion on this here! Please reply with your views, if you are reading this. SMargan (talk) 13:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Redundancy of the "All Winners" Section
I have noticed that the "All Winners" section appears to be duplicating the information that should be in the "Awards and nominees" section, if that section was fully complete. I am currently making changes to make the "Awards and nominees" section a complete set of tables from all the recipient of honours from 1978 to the current year. In the meantime, I am hoping that a discussion is started as to what function the other "All winners" section fulfills. Does it need deleting, or, at very least, having superfluous information, e.g. like the "Publisher" column, removed to simplify it and avoid information repitition. I hope this starts some discussion on what people see the point of the "All winners" section is. Everyone! Feel free to post your individual thoughts, in the form of a reply to this post. SMargan (talk) 13:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)