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Romania used the old calendar until February 1919, and Ciocan was born on 15 May 1913 according to the old style, which is 28 May 1913 according to the new calendar ([https://www.grg-supercentenarians.org/ilie-ciocan/ source]). Apparently 28 May was previously mistakenly believed to be old-style BC, however later GRG received further evidence from his family and they corrected the date of birth to keep 28 May by the [[Gregorian calendar]], not 10 June as previously thought. Wikipedia is not the place for original research, so it should list the active date of birth according to what is the current version on GRG. Furthermore, it is not the first GRG correction, GRG has made other significant corrections to previously erroneous data, such as the dates for MARY CURLEY (1880–1994), FANNIE THOMAS (1867–1981), MARY BIDWELL (1881–1996), MYRTLE DORSEY (1885–2000), CHARLIE PHILLIPS (1869–1980), ROBERT FREEMAN (1879–1990) and others. Considering that GRG has existed since 1990, it is quite normal that they have errors, but it is very important that they have corrected those mistakes. LongeviQuest is not officially recognized by science or GWR, but still, for Wikipedia, LQ validations can be used for now because they are considered reliable and in line with modern validation standards... However, it takes time to be officially recognized by GRG and GWR, and they will probably never be recognized because they refused to be a GRG collaborator, they want to work independently, their choice and that is not a reason to attack GRG. They have various forums where they write negative comments about GRG so rudely that it is unacceptable and extremely rude. However, some of those people are not LQ members, but that Forum (The 110 Club) is controlled by LQ and they should prevent all negative comments posted by users on GRG's account. Some of the members of that forum are active here under similar usernames, and due to ignorance and being misinformed on the forums, they are trying in various ways to declare GRG as an unreliable source here on Wikipedia, which is unacceptable because GRG exists long before they some of them were born... So, LQ can be used as a source here only in cases that are their validations, without the case being confirmed by GRG, and for cases that were confirmed long ago by GRG, it is enough to cite GRG, possibly newspaper reports, and even LQ, but do not forget to cite primary source, ie GRG... Once again, it is unnecessary to comment further, it is enough to base it on what is a publicly available source...08:15, 14 May 2024 (UTC) [[User:Дејан2021|Дејан2021]] ([[User talk:Дејан2021|talk]]) 08:15, 14 May 2024 (UTC) |
Romania used the old calendar until February 1919, and Ciocan was born on 15 May 1913 according to the old style, which is 28 May 1913 according to the new calendar ([https://www.grg-supercentenarians.org/ilie-ciocan/ source]). Apparently 28 May was previously mistakenly believed to be old-style BC, however later GRG received further evidence from his family and they corrected the date of birth to keep 28 May by the [[Gregorian calendar]], not 10 June as previously thought. Wikipedia is not the place for original research, so it should list the active date of birth according to what is the current version on GRG. Furthermore, it is not the first GRG correction, GRG has made other significant corrections to previously erroneous data, such as the dates for MARY CURLEY (1880–1994), FANNIE THOMAS (1867–1981), MARY BIDWELL (1881–1996), MYRTLE DORSEY (1885–2000), CHARLIE PHILLIPS (1869–1980), ROBERT FREEMAN (1879–1990) and others. Considering that GRG has existed since 1990, it is quite normal that they have errors, but it is very important that they have corrected those mistakes. LongeviQuest is not officially recognized by science or GWR, but still, for Wikipedia, LQ validations can be used for now because they are considered reliable and in line with modern validation standards... However, it takes time to be officially recognized by GRG and GWR, and they will probably never be recognized because they refused to be a GRG collaborator, they want to work independently, their choice and that is not a reason to attack GRG. They have various forums where they write negative comments about GRG so rudely that it is unacceptable and extremely rude. However, some of those people are not LQ members, but that Forum (The 110 Club) is controlled by LQ and they should prevent all negative comments posted by users on GRG's account. Some of the members of that forum are active here under similar usernames, and due to ignorance and being misinformed on the forums, they are trying in various ways to declare GRG as an unreliable source here on Wikipedia, which is unacceptable because GRG exists long before they some of them were born... So, LQ can be used as a source here only in cases that are their validations, without the case being confirmed by GRG, and for cases that were confirmed long ago by GRG, it is enough to cite GRG, possibly newspaper reports, and even LQ, but do not forget to cite primary source, ie GRG... Once again, it is unnecessary to comment further, it is enough to base it on what is a publicly available source...08:15, 14 May 2024 (UTC) [[User:Дејан2021|Дејан2021]] ([[User talk:Дејан2021|talk]]) 08:15, 14 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Romania used the old calendar until February 1919, and Ciocan was born on 15 May 1913 according to the old style, which is 28 May 1913 according to the new calendar ([https://www.grg-supercentenarians.org/ilie-ciocan/ source]). Apparently 28 May was previously mistakenly believed to be old-style BC, however later GRG received further evidence from his family and they corrected the date of birth to keep 28 May by the Gregorian calendar, not 10 June as previously thought. Wikipedia is not the place for original research, so it should list the active date of birth according to what is the current version on GRG. Furthermore, it is not the first GRG correction, GRG has made other significant corrections to previously erroneous data, such as the dates for MARY CURLEY (1880–1994), FANNIE THOMAS (1867–1981), MARY BIDWELL (1881–1996), MYRTLE DORSEY (1885–2000), CHARLIE PHILLIPS (1869–1980), ROBERT FREEMAN (1879–1990) and others. Considering that GRG has existed since 1990, it is quite normal that they have problems, but it is very important that they have corrected those mistakes. LongeviQuest is not officially recognized by science or GWR, but still, for Wikipedia, LQ validations can be used for now because they are considered reliable and in line with modern validation standards... However, it takes time to be officially recognized by GRG and GWR, and they will probably never be recognized because they refused to be a GRG collaborator, they want to work independently, their choice and that is not a reason to attack GRG. They have various forums where they write negative comments about GRG so rudely that it is unacceptable and extremely rude. However, some of those people are not LQ members, but that Forum (The 110 Club) is controlled by LQ and they should prevent all negative comments posted by users on GRG's account. Some of the members of that forum are active here under similar usernames, and due to ignorance and being misinformed on the forums, they are trying in various ways to declare GRG as an unreliable source here on Wikipedia, which is unacceptable because GRG exists long before they some of them were born... So, LQ can be used as a source here only in cases that are their validations, without the case being confirmed by GRG, and for cases that were confirmed long ago by GRG, it is enough to cite GRG, possibly newspaper reports, and even LQ, but do not forget to cite primary source, ie GRG... Once again, it is unnecessary to comment further, it is enough to base it on what is a publicly available source...08:16, 14 May 2024 (UTC) [[User:Дејан2021|Дејан2021]] ([[User talk:Дејан2021|talk]]) 08:16, 14 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Ina Okazawa
Should Ina Okazawa be listed on here? She's not verified by GRG. GermanShepherd1983 (talk) 02:18, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes... her age is verified by an international body specializing in longevity research/extreme age verification. That is enough to be listed. Softmist (talk) 01:09, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
Group
I think we should form a new group of editors for longevity pages the previous group isnt even active in the area anymore and when they were I see a startling agression towards articles of the subject "they were interesting in editing in" Wwew345t (talk) 17:30, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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Romania used the old calendar until February 1919, and Ciocan was born on 15 May 1913 according to the old style, which is 28 May 1913 according to the new calendar (source). Apparently 28 May was previously mistakenly believed to be old-style BC, however later GRG received further evidence from his family and they corrected the date of birth to keep 28 May by the Gregorian calendar, not 10 June as previously thought. Wikipedia is not the place for original research, so it should list the active date of birth according to what is the current version on GRG. Furthermore, it is not the first GRG correction, GRG has made other significant corrections to previously erroneous data, such as the dates for MARY CURLEY (1880–1994), FANNIE THOMAS (1867–1981), MARY BIDWELL (1881–1996), MYRTLE DORSEY (1885–2000), CHARLIE PHILLIPS (1869–1980), ROBERT FREEMAN (1879–1990) and others. Considering that GRG has existed since 1990, it is quite normal that they have errors, but it is very important that they have corrected those mistakes. LongeviQuest is not officially recognized by science or GWR, but still, for Wikipedia, LQ validations can be used for now because they are considered reliable and in line with modern validation standards... However, it takes time to be officially recognized by GRG and GWR, and they will probably never be recognized because they refused to be a GRG collaborator, they want to work independently, their choice and that is not a reason to attack GRG. They have various forums where they write negative comments about GRG so rudely that it is unacceptable and extremely rude. However, some of those people are not LQ members, but that Forum (The 110 Club) is controlled by LQ and they should prevent all negative comments posted by users on GRG's account. Some of the members of that forum are active here under similar usernames, and due to ignorance and being misinformed on the forums, they are trying in various ways to declare GRG as an unreliable source here on Wikipedia, which is unacceptable because GRG exists long before they some of them were born... So, LQ can be used as a source here only in cases that are their validations, without the case being confirmed by GRG, and for cases that were confirmed long ago by GRG, it is enough to cite GRG, possibly newspaper reports, and even LQ, but do not forget to cite primary source, ie GRG... Once again, it is unnecessary to comment further, it is enough to base it on what is a publicly available source...08:15, 14 May 2024 (UTC) Дејан2021 (talk) 08:15, 14 May 2024 (UTC)