Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 May 22

May 22

Template:Iran 2024 presidential elections series

• Template:Iran 2024 presidential elections series (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No articles about the 2024 election other than the actual article about the 2024 election. Created WAY too early. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:34, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Template:Edit semi-protected

• Template:Edit semi-protected  (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Edit extended-protected  (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Edit template-protected  (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Edit fully-protected  (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Edit interface-protected  (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Request edit  (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Edit semi-protected with Template:Request edit.
As I have (surprisingly) recently discovered, this entire family of templates auto-detects the protection level of the template for which the edit request is being made. This means that an {{FPER}} placed on a template-protected template will result in exactly the same thing as a {{TPER}}. Because of this, it seems to me that there is little reason to keep these all as separate templates, instead using the more obvious and reasonably-named {{request edit}} as the base template for this family (instead of the latter template being used as a dab for all five). Primefac (talk) 15:53, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

• Merge the first five together but keep {{request edit}} as is since COI edit requests are, and need to be, a separate process (a page someone has a COI with can also be protected). * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:02, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

  Perhaps a parameter such as COI=yes or type=COI could be used to flag the type of edit request that is being made, which would allow all six templates to be merged into Template:Request edit. That would still keep them a separate process. Adam Black ^{t • c} 16:50, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

  Is there any reason to do that, though? It seems to just make things more complicated for everyone. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

• (edit conflict)Request edit used to be for COI, and it's a generic name that could refer to it or edit partially-blocked as well. Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 16:03, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
• Support Merge (Non-Admin vote) Babysharkboss2 was here!! ^{Dr. Wu is NOT a Doctor!} 16:44, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

  Being an admin doesn't mean very much here--there's no need to point out you aren't one. Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 17:00, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

• Merge the first five and keep {{Request edit}} as a disambiguation per Pppery. I was also rather surprised and amused to find out that the edit request templates automatically emulate each other based on the page's protection level. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 18:37, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

  As no one has suggested a title for the proposed merged template, perhaps {{Edit protected}}? —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 18:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

  Should probably have "request" in its name. Gonnym (talk) 19:29, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

  Then maybe {{Protected edit request}} to match the Module it invokes, though I should note that the possibly enticing shortcut {{PER}} is already a template for the Peruvian flag. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 20:10, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

• Merge first five unless there is some yet-to-be-discovered reason to have them separate. Gonnym (talk) 19:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
• {{request edit}} needs a new name, since that's not what it does. Other than that, I see no issue with merging the others. Izno (talk) 21:31, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: These do not behave identically when the edit request is to an unprotected page. For example, you could use {{Edit extended-protected}} for an article that is within an WP:ARBECR topic area but which has not presently been protected. (If the page is protected, you have to use |force= to force a different protection level.) SilverLocust 💬 23:38, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
• Comment this template set is missing a template for requesting edits that are editfiltered, so autodetection doesn't help, when you need extra rights due to an edit filter instead of page protection. If these are merged, will a switch be available to select a rights level for that situation? -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 02:33, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
• Meh Except the last, they're all wrappers for Module:Protected edit request with slightly different arguments, so in that sense they're already merged. But we should probably keep the slightly different behavior in that {{Edit fully-protected}} should default to fully-protected if the auto-detection fails, {{Edit semi-protected}} to semi-protected, and so on rather than turning them all into redirects to a single wrapper. {{Request edit}} should probably have no default, if that's reasonable. Anomie⚔ 12:01, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Template:Varies/doc

• Template:Varies/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused as the template uses Template:Table cell templates/doc. Gonnym (talk) 14:58, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Template:Infobox mapframe/doc/templatedata

• Template:Infobox mapframe/doc/templatedata  (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Infobox mapframe/doc  (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox mapframe/doc/templatedata with Template:Infobox mapframe/doc.
Merge the TemplateData to the main /doc template (Template:Infobox mapframe/doc#TemplateData). Since it was created in 2020 and hasn't been updated once since, the parameters need to be checked to see if they are still up to date. Gonnym (talk) 14:54, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:03, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Template:Government/doc/navboxes

• Template:Government/doc/navboxes (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unclear sidebar subpage. Unused and not a doc page. Gonnym (talk) 14:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Template:PDreview

• Template:PDreview (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Looks like a template that never really took off in usage when it was made in 2010. At this point, such reviews are handled by WP:FFD, and the {{Oldffdfull}} template points readers in the direction of relevant discussions for files. (Also, if this template is deleted, Category:PD reviewed files should probably be deleted per {{Db-g8}} as dependent on the nominated template.) Steel1943 (talk) 22:20, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

• Comment NFCC/NFUR and PD discussions were merged into FFD, so this should be a remainder of a defunct process -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 03:49, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

  It wasn't used for either process though. It was a template that was created then never utilized. Steel1943 (talk) 21:53, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 09:39, 22 May 2024 (UTC)