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Iwazaki, you made a comment at [[User talk:Chidis]] that Chidis should not "really care about the above warnings". I feel that comment was made in poor judgment, especially considering that Chidis' edits have consisted of the introduction of deliberate factual errors (including repeated [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eelam&diff=prev&oldid=120946682 vandalism of numbers]), [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special_Task_Force&diff=122174431&oldid=121226897 modifying direct quotes], and other [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Human_penis_size&diff=prev&oldid=116170531 blatant vandalism]. This editor's actions constitute the worst series of vandalism I've seen for months and which it took me over an hour to revert. That sort of behaviour should '''not''' be encouraged under any circumstances. If you were not aware of the vandalism I've linked to above, I can understand, but still think you should have done preliminary research before dismissing Watchdogb's and RaveenS's warnings. -- [[User:Black Falcon|Black Falcon]] 17:34, 12 April 2007 (UTC) |
Iwazaki, you made a comment at [[User talk:Chidis]] that Chidis should not "really care about the above warnings". I feel that comment was made in poor judgment, especially considering that Chidis' edits have consisted of the introduction of deliberate factual errors (including repeated [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eelam&diff=prev&oldid=120946682 vandalism of numbers]), [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special_Task_Force&diff=122174431&oldid=121226897 modifying direct quotes], and other [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Human_penis_size&diff=prev&oldid=116170531 blatant vandalism]. This editor's actions constitute the worst series of vandalism I've seen for months and which it took me over an hour to revert. That sort of behaviour should '''not''' be encouraged under any circumstances. If you were not aware of the vandalism I've linked to above, I can understand, but still think you should have done preliminary research before dismissing Watchdogb's and RaveenS's warnings. -- [[User:Black Falcon|Black Falcon]] 17:34, 12 April 2007 (UTC) |
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:I have replied to your comment at [[User talk:Black Falcon#My post at User talk:Chidis|my talk page]]. Cheers, [[User:Black Falcon|Black Falcon]] 19:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC) |
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thanks
well done iwazaki for sticking up for the sinhalese and being proud of the true sri lankan culture and history especially in the talk page of prabhakaran. i am very new to wikipedia but not new to the havoc a tyrant like him has caused. thanks again. kohomahari api sinhalayo koti wa iwarakarala daamu.
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Last chance to demostrate good will
Iwazaki, your last edit damaged existing messages in two places on my talk page, and I'm therefore reverting it. I noticed it also included another long POV pushing rant.
I am sorry, you are completely missing the point. This is not about POV. It is about basic Wikipedia policies, as explained above and on my talk page. I don't see how this can still not be clear to you, but I will give you one last chance to demostrate good will. Please therefore refrain for the next two weeks from any
- reversions of opposing POV;
- insertions of information about living people that is not from verifiable sources;
- misleading edit summaries.
If I still see you doing any of the above then I will have to report you. I am sorry that it has come to that; my nonviolent communication skills are not advanced enough to see another way for handling this.
If you have any concrete and specific questions about these three policies that you can not find or inquire about on the policy pages, then I'm still open to answering them on my Sri Lanka talk page. But please spare me your POV pushing rants. I will either ignore or delete such edits, even if they do not damage other messages on this page. — Sebastian 21:30, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
It's now half a day later, and I'm not feeling angry anymore. So I just had an idea: You have so many other interesting things to offer: Japan, reggae, cricket, table tennis, computer, ... How about if you contributed to some of these areas for a while? — Sebastian 03:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your good reply on my talk page. This is what I was hoping for; it opens the stage for a productive, mutually respectful discussion. I'll reply there. — Sebastian 06:02, 11 January 2007 (UTC) I moved the talk to User talk:SebastianHelm/Sri Lanka#Sebastian's reply of 11 January. — Sebastian 09:13, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Hey bro
There's no any section for Sri Lanka here machan. :-( --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ Walkie-talkie 09:29, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Happy King Day
I'm fulfilled in what I do... I never thought that a lot of money or fine clothes — the finer things of life — would make you happy. My concept of happiness is to be filled in a spiritual sense. - Coretta Scott King (attributed)
Struggle is a never ending process. Freedom is never really won; you earn it and win it in every generation. - Coretta Scott King (attributed)
Hey. I added the prod tage because i felt that, regardless of whether or not Akira Makino is notable, the page failed to assert his notability firmly enough. If you disagree, by all means remove the tag, I was just expressing a concern. Goodnightmush 14:20, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Sri Lanka POV
I looked over your contribs, and you appear to be extremely interested in this subject. When I see an editor that spends so much time editing articles on a particular subject, that leads me to believe that they might be pushing a particular POV. So, let me just state for the record that I really don't care about Sri Lanka, nor do I really have any idea who the heck LTTE is or what their politics are.
That being said, the reason for my edit was because it looked to me like somebody was committing a whitewash of an event, and was basing this solely on the results of a 1999 Sri Lankan government investigation. In order to maintain a NPOV, I made changes to include some information to balance the official government position. The sources for this information included the BBC and AHRC. There was no reason to remove it. The only part I removed was the claim that since the 1999 investigation "only" found evidence for a smaller massacre, that this proves that nothing happened.
None of my edits are personal. I just don't like one-sided articles created by people with a POV to push. -- Big Brother 1984 00:10, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
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Lets move this discussion to Talk:State terrorism in Sri Lanka so we can get input from other editors -- Big Brother 1984 03:38, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Work for you
I have tagged a number of articles dear to you [1] based on your correct tagging oflist on Mylanthanai massacre. Please respondRaveenS 21:42, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
About the book
First dont threaten me that you are going to do this or that. Wikipedia will take care of that but pal all what you had to do was do a search on Amazon.com. See [2] It is available for a mere US $6.00. Either you did not look or you want to figure out a way to delete articles. Buy it, read it. RaveenS 23:38, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
[3][4] --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ Walkie-talkie 04:16, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Never heard of Veddas speaking Tamil
Just read this [5] or may be it is hoax too ? RaveenS 16:08, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
:-(
[6][7] --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ Walkie-talkie 17:34, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Ratnajeevan Hoole versus Rajan Hoole
THe VC is Ratnajeevan Hoole brother of Rajan Hoole who received death threats because he is the brother of Rajan Hoole and had to abandon his job.
Rajan Hoole of UTHR left Jaffna in 1989/90 soon after Rajini Thiranagama and the student Manoharan were killed 64.201.162.1 17:50, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your nice message
Now that I'm moving it to my Sri Lanka talk page I realize that you may not have noticed that I had replied to you earlier. See you around! — Sebastian 20:53, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
こんばんは。I came across your Hatano Hiroko page and switched the article title to the Western naming order based on the style guide for Japan-related articles (WP:MOS-JP). I did some cleanup as well. I also noticed that you stated the ability to release the photos which you uploaded for the article into the public domain. However, they appear to be official photos that are probably owned by someone else. I have listed them at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images, so if you have further information on the sources of the images, please present an explanation there. よろしくお願いします。 Dekimasuが... 14:32, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Re:Walpola Rahula
Hi, feel free to replace the whole article if you wish. I started the article with very limited knowledge and english source. Hope more can be written about this significant person. Thnks. --Vsion 14:45, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Image copyright
Hi, I saw your comment on the copyright problems page ([8]). No chance. All these photographs are the property of the photographers who took them or their agencies. And since these seem to be from professional photoshoots, not some random snapshots, it's highly likely they were not made by some anonymous fan either. We can't use them unless we have a written statement from the photographer himself that they are licensing them under GFDL. Please don't re-upload them - I'd have to block you if you did. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well You seemed not to know the situation here..Fan events and talk shows drags hundreds of fans and with the modern cameras they poses coupled with image soft wares any one can create perfect professional looking photos..I can accept your argument about the first photo, even though that one is certainly not copyrighted..unless you prove that later photos are copyrighted,I don't think your threatens going to stop me from adding them,rightfully, I would say.thanks --Iwazaki 16:00, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- Don't. Serious warning. It's not me that needs to prove they are unfree, it's you that needs to prove they are free. Nothing less than a plausible written statement by the photographer himself will do. And your statement that even the first (where we know the source!) is "not copyrighted" just goes to show you don't know what you're talking about. Sorry for being blunt, but, seriously mate, don't. Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:07, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Notability
Yo, is Ilayathambi_Tharsini notable enough to have an article on Wikipedia? I would think we don't have an article about evry single person rape victim in the world. AFD??? --snowolfD4( talk / @ ) 01:44, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
You helped choose Rwandan Genocide as this week's WP:ACID winner
AzaBot 23:05, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Loooooooodz of work
Seems we have lots work over here. That article is full of nonsense and truly identical to his chubby figure. I'm pretty sure that Hon.V Prabhakaran will get confuse if he read this article . --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ walkie-talkie 04:08, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
- Hmmm true, first of all finish your presentation[9]
--♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ walkie-talkie 04:26, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
You helped choose Black hole as this week's WP:ACID winner
AzaBot 01:36, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
hi
A user keeps using random Eelam figures to try and "prove" that the VHP supports the Tigers. If you lok at Anton Balasingham's bio, you will see criticism of himfrom a prominent Conservative Hindu politician (and Tamil) Subramaniam Swamy. Do take a look, becasue AFAIK the Eelam and the Sinhala govt are secular. There are Hindus, Catholics, Muslims, and Buddhists on both ethnic groups.Bakaman 02:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Would you like do Japanese and English translations in Wikipedia? --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ walkie-talkie 05:23, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Padahuthurai bombing
I appriciate you for notifying me about the problem. Please let me know if I make any mistakes anywhere. Thanks a lot for looking out. Also I would like to inform you that I am not a Sri lankan or a south asian for that matter and that I DO NOT ENDORSE LTTE. I might have been seen changing some articles about LTTE but thats to clean wiki and not fo propandaga like some others (you know who I mean). Anyway thanks Watchdogb 15:05, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Assasinations of LTTE members attributed to Sri Lankan government, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}}
notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. snowolfD4( talk / @ ) 16:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- The article has been successfully deleted on March 13th. --snowolfD4( talk / @ ) 18:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Template substitution
When using certain template tags on talk pages, don't forget to substitute with text by adding subst: to the template tag. For example, use {{subst:uw-test1}} instead of {{uw-test1}}. This reduces server load and prevents accidental blanking of the template. Thanks. --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ walkie-talkie 09:43, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Interesting
Thought you would be interested in this.Bakaman 19:10, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- O and btw, see when it is acceptable to label someone a terrorist, Balasingam is not a terrorist, though most of his ragtag gang probably are.Bakaman 19:13, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
The Sri Lanka conflict, game theory and mediation
I'd like to pick up some of the more general points from our conversation on Talk:Riots and pogroms in Sri Lanka. When you write "This is not the only article over wikipedia which was made with the sole purpose of defaming Sinhalese", it seems to me you're missing my point. I'm not denying that you can see it that way. Just let's follow that thought and see where it leads. It is obvious to me that, by the same token, what you're writing can be seen as defamation of Tamils. I'm not saying that it is, but when I grant you the right to take offense, I have to give that right to everyone. (I'll write a bit about concrete examples below; for the moment, please just accept that this is one possible way to see it.) So, where does that lead you and the angry Tamil? You'll keep hurting each other, and in the end you both lose big time.
Now I understand that this may be the rule that governs the world in which you grew up, but it is not the only possible rule. Here on Wikipedia, we have rules such as WP:AGF, and we have them for a reason: Because they work. There is a fundamental reason why they work. Do you know about game theory? One basic mathematical fact is that not all "games" are zero-sum. Which means, you can both lose big time, or you can both win. Of course, there are such games, too. Such a game may have a payoff matrix like the following:
You \ Other Editor | AGF | No AGF |
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AGF | 0 \ 0 | -70 \ +70 |
No AGF | +70 \ -70 | 0 \ 0 |
In such a game, any point you win is a point your opponent loses. (So we could as well just write only one number in each cell because the second is just the additive inverse of the first. This is called skew symmetry.) In other words, you always have to harm the other person in order to win. This is the model that's hammered into our heads all the time by action movies and by all those who gain by lying to us, because in reality they are the ones who win from war and conflicts. When they can, they set up systems so that they approach this payoff matrix, as when the British put the Tamils in power; by making the weaker part stronger they made the payoff matrix skew-symmetric.
Anyway, Wikipedia is different. Wikipedia has a vital interest in cooperation. It is therefore set up so that we have approximately a payout matrix like this:
You \ Other Editor | AGF | No AGF |
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AGF | +100 \ +100 | -50 \ +20 |
No AGF | +20 \ -50 | +1 \ +1 |
The numbers show the effect (total of influence points gained, added for all readers over the lifetime of your edit) you can achieve by investing one hour of your time. The small numbers in the lower right quadrant is mainly because non-AGF edits stay only very short and carry a risk of being blocked, which means you need to resort to and worry about sock puppets and all those complications. The numbers also assume that you prefer your country looking good over others looking bad. This distinction is crucial, it is why we need two numbers in each matrix.
This shows, what you're already very much aware of, that when you assume that the Other Editor does not AGF, your best strategy is to also not AGF. That way, you can avoid the tremendous loss of 50 points and at least gain one point. That's the best you can do under that assumption.
Now, that's where mediation comes in. You have the luxury of having a mediator in residence. The mediator tries as hard as he can to move both sides to AGF. There's of course no guarantee, but it makes it more likely that the Other Editor AGF. And BTW, we are currently at that point. As of last week, it were people like Sharz who initiated the voluntary "Cease Edit War" pledge, and Watchdogb is also being very considerate. Please respect that this is a success of mediation, not of a no-AGF strategy.
So, back to our topic: Thanks to mediation, you now can reasonably expect that the Other Editor will AGF, which means, you use the left side of the matrix: Your strategy decides between a 20 point gain (without AGF) and a 100 point gain (with AGF). Too good to be true? No. All it takes is a shift of focus. Think about what makes you happy, rather than what makes others unhappy. Of course, if your priority is really to make others unhappy, you could abuse this, make the other side lose a staggering 150 points by choosing the 20 \ -50 option; but you wold lose, too, albeit "only" 80 points.
Since the other party currently is applying an AGF strategy, it is now vital that you respect that and not abuse it. Please help me by strengthening the case for AGF. — Sebastian 22:47, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Smile
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James, La gloria è a dio has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
Have a nice week and god bless :) --James, La gloria è a dio 19:39, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
RE:NOTE!
Please try to address the issue rather than blindly reverting it..I am not disputing the event it self..But what's written in the article is kinda deceiving.Hope you understand this.Iwazaki 会話。討論 09:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- If that is the case, then the article needs to be as NPOV as possible then. You can go ahead and revert it back now. Sorry for the confusion. Wiki Raja 10:04, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- But before you revert back, can you answer the questions you have posted or post any referenced material to back your questions? Wiki Raja 11:01, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- I guess not. Wiki Raja 20:08, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Raja, please calm down , you are showing your emotions way tooooooo much these days.And no we don't accept tamil-something sites as reliable sources..I don't mind having them in the articles dedicated to terrorists or Suicide bombers, But not in notable events like Jaffna Library burning.Iwazaki 会話。討論 00:39, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- I guess not. Wiki Raja 20:08, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- But before you revert back, can you answer the questions you have posted or post any referenced material to back your questions? Wiki Raja 11:01, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- one more thing, please don't talk to your self, as you did in my talk page coz it only makes me laugh thus discouraging me from replying you..Since I was asking questions from you, why would I answer them ?? It doesnt make any sense to me, could you please elaborate that at the article-talk page ?Iwazaki 会話。討論 00:42, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- I am calm and cool as a cucumber. Why is it a problem to use Tamil sites that talk about the Jaffna library burning down? After all it is a Tamil library right? Also, why would you only accepte Tamil sites which talk about terrorism? Your statement is truly biased, and prejudiced. And what do you mean by showing my emotions way too much these days? Are you a stalker? Send me another message like this and I will kindly report you. Have a nice day. Wiki Raja 05:50, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- What do you mean by showing my emotions way too much these days? We have only been corressponding for the past couple of days. You talk like you have known me for a while or something. Wiki Raja 14:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Haha
Dude I'm laughing so hard. Have you ever seen citations requested for what someone said on a talk page? [10]. I think if you don't cite what you said the text may get deleted!!! This is up there among the silliest things I've seen on Wikipedia. I don't know whether to laugh or be sorry for the fellow. --snowolfD4( talk / @ ) 20:29, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
You helped choose Vladimir Lenin as this week's WP:ACID winner
AzaBot 01:46, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Comment
Of course I will keep on fighting vandals here. Just to let you know I am not Roman Catholic, I am Anglo-Catholic:) You keep up the good work also :) God bless:) --James, La gloria è a dio 22:05, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Need your response
Talk:Assassinations_and_murders_attributed_to_the_LTTE#redirect please respond on this ŇëŧΜǒńğëŗTalk 14:24, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Comment
I am currently fighting the atheists who believe Evolution is a fact. I do not care that they think that but there POV should not get in the way of wikipedia being NPOV. They are going to be in for quite a fight:) I am not going to give in on a just cause. If I get blocked because of it I do not care. Even though it will hurt my chances of ever becoming a admin. Doing what is right is more important to me than that. Peace:) --James, La gloria è a dio 23:37, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Your response required in achieving consensus
Hi please respond here --> Talk:Assassinations_and_murders_attributed_to_the_LTTE#Consensus_to_redirect —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Netmonger (talk • contribs) 06:38, 26 March 2007 (UTC).
His real name Russel Premakumaran Arnold, I dont know go figure, before you put a hoax tag on his article go check this one [11] and ask them to change the midle name if you think it is wrong. RaveenS 17:29, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Please do not attack
Please do not attack me saying I am a sockpuppet of a user who has been banned from wikipedia. You are breaching NPA and Civil with these attacks. I am asking you kindly to stop thanks. I have allready asked you to stop numerous times. Thank you Watchdogb 17:42, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
if you have frgotten the link is here
"way to go Elalan, with your hilarious editing.They were immediately reverted.Actually I am kinda surprised that You talk about AGF here while condemning Our country,Wikipedia Admins, several of Wiki Editors before..I still remember what You wrote at your Talk page ^_^ . "
NOTE Remove meaningless remarks from my talk pageIwazaki 会話。討論 08:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- May I remind you that personal attacks are not meaningless, Iwazaki. Your continued accusation of sockpuppetry by Watchdogb needs evidence, otherwise please do not refer to him that way. --KZ Talk • Contribs 22:08, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Do not remove NPOV dispute tag
Do not remove NPOV tags from the Tamil Tigers article. This tag has been there for over a year and there are a number of editors who feel that article is biased and factually incorrect. You may only do so when an agreement has been reached. For further discussion leave a comment on the article's talk page. - Share Bear 22:11, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Russel Arnold
Here is proof not only that Russel Arnold is Tamil.. but has proudly said that in an interview..
http://specials.rediff.com/cricket/2003/jul/18arnold.htm?zcc=ar
Read that and make up your mind.
The only Tamilian from the strife-torn region of Jaffna in Sri Lanka, he is proud of his pedigree.
"I am the only true tiger in the team," he jokes.
can we assume you were lying when you said Arnold does not consider himself Tamil?
either way an apology is due for removing the Arnold/Tamil stuff. This interview is as solid as it gets. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.31.119.59 (talk) 21:39, 4 April 2007 (UTC).
Your comments at User talk:Chidis
Iwazaki, you made a comment at User talk:Chidis that Chidis should not "really care about the above warnings". I feel that comment was made in poor judgment, especially considering that Chidis' edits have consisted of the introduction of deliberate factual errors (including repeated vandalism of numbers), modifying direct quotes, and other blatant vandalism. This editor's actions constitute the worst series of vandalism I've seen for months and which it took me over an hour to revert. That sort of behaviour should not be encouraged under any circumstances. If you were not aware of the vandalism I've linked to above, I can understand, but still think you should have done preliminary research before dismissing Watchdogb's and RaveenS's warnings. -- Black Falcon 17:34, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- I have replied to your comment at my talk page. Cheers, Black Falcon 19:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC)