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Nazi skinhead

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As far as I know, User:Laderov and User:EuropeanLynx are the same editor, who is also editing from 24.201.17.56 and 24.203.22.162, as their edits and edit summaries are broadly the same. The editor is more than likely a Nazi skinhead himself (based on his previous username of User:ProudAryan), and has repeatedly tried to remove the sourced fact that the original skinhead was heavily influenced by black music. User:Grandmasterka blocked User:EuropeanLynx for a week, and based on the block log including "sockpuppetry" he's of the belief he's also the same IP editor. Today there's been a further attempt to remove the influence of black music, citing Neo-Nazi sources which aren't reliable. There's an ANI report here as well. Basically the whole situation boils down to the editor making highly POV edits based on his own opinion or extremist sources. Thanks. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 17:44, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks much for the summary. The problem has disappeared for a week so I think we can probably lower protection to semi for now. I've watchlisted Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice in case he starts block evading over there. – Steel 12:45, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

You'll be pleased to know he is evading the block. Thanks. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 20:10, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Seems like Chrislk02 got there before me. Shame, really, because I'd have got rid of him (them?) for longer than a day. – Steel 23:46, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Unless they are somehow different people who use the same computer and use identical syntax and have the exact same POV and make the same edits it's likely there's only one person. You could always unblock and re-block for longer of course ;) One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 00:07, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Quite. At any rate, Chris's block seems enough for now. Let's wait and see what happens tomorrow. – Steel 00:10, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Not much to date. One thing worth nothing especially given his probable political beliefs is the use of "negros" or "negoroes" (sic) in these edits. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 04:07, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, I blocked two IPs yesterday for evasion and reset EuropeanLynx's original block because of it. Is this all going under the radar? I'm not sure what to think about the negro thing. – Steel 12:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I missed all that somehow! In my opinion the use of negro is generally inappropriate, but in my opinion it's clearly being used in a derogatory and offensive context by that editor. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:57, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Kind attention

[1]. --Zamkudi 13:40, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Commented. – Steel 13:44, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

And so have I... Young Knight in Armour. :) --Zamkudi 13:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Note: The article appears to have been unlinked from Google. --Zamkudi 05:58, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Habitat trip to Philippines

Hi Steel, the user who created this article wants to access the content again. I'm not sure how undeletion requests like these are typically carried out, but maybe you can temporarily copy it to userspace for him? Thanks. -SpuriousQ (talk) 15:59, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I've moved the text here for him. – Steel 18:41, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Review?

Sorry to trouble you -- It's just that I know you will probably know about this issue above over people who are at least vaguely familiar with me (I'm relatively new). The thing is, I've created the Ashnard page which is currently a starter page; it's got references, internal links, and I think it is well written so I was wishing for some sort of review of it to possibly bump its status up. Yet I'm unsure of how to initiate a request for a review or of any review business, so I'm wondering if you would inform me how to go about the business, or at least look over the page to see if there is anything wrong with it. Please fell at liberty to respond on my talk page. Thanks. Ashnard _talk 21:58, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

If you just want it reviewed, there's Wikipedia:Peer review. I believe the WP:CVG has their own peer reviewing service, so that might be preferable to the all-purpose one. Failing either of those, I've written videogame articles in the past, so I could give you some suggestions. Not right now, though, it's almost 1am. If you want it to have some kind of status, try WP:GAC (there's also WP:FAC, but this kind of article will never make that). You could also ask someone at WT:CVG to review it informally and update the tag on it's talk page (currently at start class). – Steel 23:53, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!! I'll weigh up the options. Ashnard _talk 09:47, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I've put in an assessment request at CVG, although I doubt there will be an immediate response. Of course, you can feel free to look over it or offer suggestions if you want. Ashnard _talk 13:36, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Venus Lighthouse

I am trapped in Venus Lighthouse. In a place where the door is covered trees and there on is bunches of leaves, how to cross it —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dick Mark (talk • contribs) 11:06, 13 April 2007 (UTC).

Doesn't Ivan usually sort out the leaves with whirlwind? If you haven't got that, mix your djinnis around until you get it. Ashnard _talk 13:38, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't remember there being any shrub-covered doors in Venus Lighthouse, though whirlwind would be the way to go I guess. – Steel 17:22, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

CSD A7 deletion (Fenris (band))

Just a simple question: who decides if an article about a band is, how is it called, "asserted notable". The reason is this: on nl.wikipedia.org, the article Fenris (band) has been up there for more than a year. Yet on en.wikipedia.org it was deleted under CSD A7 within no time. This is very confusing, because the two articles are the same, just written in different languages. I spent about two hours editing the English article, so I hope you understand I'm a tiny bit frustrated. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fuzzbass (talk • contribs) 15:34, 13 April 2007 (UTC).

nl.wiki aside, the article wasn't written in a particularly encyclopedic fashion. Just from one paragraph: "However, the gods put the band's existence to the test during the year 2002", "Fenris feverishly started working on new material to form the next chapter in the creative history of the band", "Problems with rehearsal rooms, a wrist injury of Rick and a lack of proper gigs put Fenris to the test however", "The music on the album is dark, epic and aggressive and forms Fenris' most creative work of art to date". Notability seemed borderline, if you want to re-write it so it doesn't read like a MySpace, I won't speedy it again. – Steel 17:20, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

OK, that makes perfect sense. Sorry I kind-of jumped to conclusions like I did. I'll start working on an encyclopedic article then. Maybe even rework the Dutch one, apparently moderation at nl.wiki isn't anything like it is overhere. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fuzzbass (talk • contribs) 22:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC).

You deleted my article (round 34,674)

Hey how do I put a company description without getting deleted as an advertisment? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rbenjaminblair (talk • contribs)

By writing it from a neutral point of view, ensuring to attribute the text to sources independent of the company itself. – Steel 22:16, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Requests for page protection/Archive 1

I've undeleted the page and I'm informing you since you deleted it. I'm guessing that it just must have been an accident since this is an archive of a talk page and not actually a talk page itself (so G8 doesn't apply) -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 17:36, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I see what happened. I deleted Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Archive 1 and my script auto-deleted its talk page without me realising. No harm done, anyway. – Steel 18:47, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

DarkPole

Look out! You accidently deleted the afd template on this article when trying to, I assume, delete the csd template. I restored it, so no harm done. Natalie 19:38, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Eeep. Thanks for catching that. – Steel 19:39, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

re: User talk:66.218.13.32 (edit | user page | history | links | watch | logs)

semi-protection Semi-protection: Vandalism, insults ↔ ^tz (talk • contribs • autographs) 00:20:32, Sunday, April 15, 2007 (UTC) 00:20, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Declined Doesn't need it. – Steel 00:22, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

User is making vandalism and insults, it is neccesary to protected. Otherwise, user will make legal threats on own talk page. 68.111.92.229 00:31, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

This raises the much more interesting question of why you are leaving the IP "Stop, or you will be blocked" warnings when the user is already blocked. – Steel 00:42, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for semi-protecting frame-dragging. --EMS | Talk 18:08, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

No problem. – Steel 11:24, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Uh... Delete Hillbilly Techno Ranch, why?

I think that line pretty much explains the point I am trying to make... Anyone with the forethought to check the history would notice that the page was being built up, and had only existed for what? 40 odd minutes? You seriously need to give people a chance... Believe it or not, as a fan of the Hillbilly Techno Ranch, clearly a somewhat unknown band, I felt obliged to create a page so that, as they tour and gradually build up a fan base, the fans can become learned... Ambient Tech-dustro seems to call for the curious-but-dumb crowd (I am an exception to some degree)...

As a small band with little media exposure, believe it or not, I am finding it hard to find any verifiable sources other than a MySpace page and a recording of an interview with Billy Hill...

TheDefiniteArticle 07:48, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I didn't delete your article. – Steel 11:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi

Hi Steel - I wasn't aware that I was "spamming" - the external links to The Huntercombe Group are, in my opinion, valid and informational additions.

The Huntercombe Group website is a large resource for specialist areas like Mental Health and Addictions, Brain Injury Rehabilitation and Learning Disabilities. While The Group is a private hospital group, the information on the website is important.

I hope this clarifies my use of the link.

Thanks, Niall

I wouldn't realy consider it an appropriate external link. If I was trying to find out about head injury/mental illness/whatever I wouldn't go to that site. It's a private hospital offering a service to people who live in area X. – Steel 11:29, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

ANI discussion

I have closed the ANI discussion because it's ceased to be productive. That said, your constant accusations of personal attacks against RolandR and others are getting disruptive, and I suggest you stop. – Steel 12:09, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

i don't think you have any right to close that case - and i'm reopening it. Jaakobou 12:12, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Enough already. --kingboyk 12:13, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you with this again, but the blocked user has responded in a surprisingly concilatorily (sp.?) fashion. Your call on whether to unblock or not. --kingboyk 15:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I was watching that discussion. All I really want is for him to just stop; if he's agreed to do that, then great. If that's the case I've no problems with an unblock. – Steel 15:30, 16 April 2007 (UTC) Addendum: I'd rather not do it myself though. – Steel 15:42, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry to return to this, but you wrote on the ANI page "My talk page is open if there are unresolved issues". There certainly are; in the confusion caused by Jaakobou's multiple postings (some 40 edits in three days, as well as countless postings to other talk pages), my original complaint was lost sight of. I was requesting a lengthy block on Jaakobou for his harassment of me, and in particular his posting of a link to a libellous website and his repeating of the libels therein. As I noted, a serial vandal is spamming scores of Wikipedia pages with this material, and to date more than 160 sockpuppets have been indefinitely blocked for repeating this. If an established editor is allowed to get away with this, it's open day for all sorts to continue with this abuse of Wikipedia. Jaakobou's behaviour warrants a significant response, not simply another warning. I haven't even had an apology, and he has failed to give the requested undertaking not to repeat this libel. We can't just ignore this. RolandR 16:45, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I blocked him, and after a discussion with Kingboyk he agreed to play nice. If he continues to be a pain I'm going to come down on him like a tonne of bricks. – Steel 19:10, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

!?!

fscking templates... [2] Sounds painful... :-) WjBscribe 00:09, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't even know where that work came from (aside from "fucking", obviously), I just picked it up on IRC... – Steel 00:11, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

LOL. It also sounds rather like "fixing" which also seems apt. I guess I should give IRC a go sometime... WjBscribe 00:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Heh, I saw someone use "fux" the other day. Whether that was an honest typo I don't know, but it's my new word for "fix". While we're on the topic, "BJ scribe" has a good ring to it, don't you think? – Steel 00:21, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Never thought of that! Could end me up at WP:RFCN... WjBscribe 00:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Haha! – Steel 00:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I tried to move the page

But Wikipedia wouldn't let me. Said the page I was trying to move it to already existed, which was true, because I'd already redirected it there. Because there happened to be two edits in that page's history, instead of one, I was unable to overwrite the redirect. So I submitted it for a move request. Nothing happened. What was I supposed to do? Serendipodous 13:28, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

You just deleted a separate article. The article was copied and pasted from planetary formation not solar nebula. Can you please lay off for a few days until I and the others involved in this mess have a chance to decide on final layout? EDIT: revised. I should never post in anger. Serendipodous 13:53, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I am going to revert your cut and paste moves. Kindly don't undo me again. – Steel 18:15, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I will have to. The discussion on Solar Nebula's talk page does not concern the page you reverted. It concerns the page I cut and pasted, which is a categorically different article. It is not just shorter; it concerns a completely different topic. When you reverted it, you eliminated the data in that article, effectively destroying it. The final layout of the various pages on solar system formation is still in discussion, but I can't have a discussion on a talk page if said talk page no longer refers to the same article. Serendipodous 18:29, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

If you restore the cut and paste move I have been fixing, I will block you. – Steel 18:30, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Have you listened to a word I've said? Serendipodous 18:33, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I have. You moved content from one page to another [3], then wrote a new article in its place [4]. Reverting the C&P move is removing the article you wrote, and what titles to have everything at is still under discussion. – Steel 18:37, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I honestly don't understand what the problem is here. I moved both the page and its talk page content; the move I made was done after discussion with, and actually suggested by, other editors. This wasn't a random act of personal vandalism. Serendipodous 19:08, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Content added to Wikipedia is released under the GFDL, meaning that everyone gets attribution for their edits (i.e. their name alongside their edit in the history). Cut and paste moves, like you did, destroy the page history and give you attribution for the work of all these people. This is a violation of the GFDL. I would have moved it properly myself by now, but you've added it to 'contested moves' on WP:RM, and there's a section on the Solar nebula talk page titled 'de-stubify', so I assumed there's dissent somewhere. – Steel 20:20, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

There is. But it's harder for me to make my case if the information I posted no longer exists. Serendipodous 21:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Uh, it does still exist. – Steel 21:15, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

WP:RFA#Matt Britt

Hello Steel. I saw your comment regarding a view that I endorsed on this RfA. As you suggested, I decided to drop by your talk page and explain my endorsement. I agree with you that the candidate's acceptance of that RfA format does not directly implicate that he'd misuse the tools. However, the consent to such a visibly confusing concept and the tone he used to reply to some of the concerns raised by a few users, made me feel that he might not have the kind of character that I expect in an admin candidate. Administrators should be trustworthy users and I currently cannot deposit my trust in him. My personal view. Best regards, Húsönd 22:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)