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Disambiguation

I note this page is linked to the Randolph Scott who died in the 11 September attacks. He is listed here: Casualties of the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attacks: City of New York

Please add a disambig page. I would do it myself, but am too depressed reading the list of the dead. Paul, in Saudi

Tech?

About what year did he leave Georgia Tech? It's obviously between 1919 and 1929. —Disavian (^talk/_contribs) 06:49, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced edit

I have removed the following passage:

It should be noted, however, that Cukor was notorious for his preponderance of unsubstantiated gossip and often sought to besmirch the reputation of men who rebuffed his own overt sexual advances. Cukor is "known to have been a real bitch", a Hollywood columnist once quipped. "If he couldn't have at you, he'd try to ruin your reputation."

It seems to be unsourced. Onefortyone 00:36, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Failed GA

Citations that are just footnotes without sources.
A trivia section.
Quote laundry list.
An insufficient lead.

Please improve. Alientraveller 19:23, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Granger quote

Concerning his gay relationship with Farley Granger and alluding to the homosexual relationship between Scott and Grant, playwright and screenwriter Arthur Laurents says,

Whatever people might think, they didn't know. Now they would. But didn't some of me want them to know I was living with a movie star? Cary Grant and Randolph Scott famously lived together as bachelors; to prove it, they double-dated. The comparison got a smile out of Marmor but Farley and I did double-date: his beard was Shelley Winters, mine was Anita Ellis or Geraldine Brooks. Shelley pretended she didn't know; Anita and Gerry knew and didn't care.^[1]

Thus, most of Scott's so-called romances with women may have been simply fabricated by the studios' publicity departments.

I keep deleting this not because it may not be a true quote, but because it merely repeats the rumor by way of someone else who happened to be in the same business. The quote does not confer authenticity on the rumor, but simply repeats it. No factual data beyond the fact that Granger apparently believes the rumor to be true is in the quote. It therefore cannot and should not be used to prove the rumor. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Monkeyzpop (talk • contribs) 10:43, 23 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

...Thanks. Forgot. Monkeyzpop 14:36, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The quote is of much importance as it proves that homosexuals at that time double-dated. They didn't 'out' themselves because they didn't want to make their real feelings public, as that would have ruined their careers. Onefortyone 23:58, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But it does not prove SCOTT AND GRANT double-dated or single-dated or anything, and thus cannot be used encyclopedically to prove the nature of their relationship. Monkeyzpop 04:30, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Quote: "Cary Grant and Randolph Scott famously lived together as bachelors; to prove it, they double-dated." This means that Arthur Laurents knew well that Grant and Scott lived together as a homosexual couple and didn't want to make their feelings public. A person who worked in Hollywood in the movie business for 30 years said, "It's true, everyone knows who's gay and bi. This includes people who have recently come out or have been "outed" and many who never have. One lesbian has gone to incredible lengths to hide her sexuality for years. The public has no idea but anyone in the business knows." You can be sure that screenwriter Arthur Laurents knew what was going on. Onefortyone 01:16, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Did it ever occur to you that they double dated with women, you frickin pinhead?--Mr Zuckles 22:55, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

^ Original Story by Arthur Laurents: A Memoir of Broadway and Hollywood, p. 123.

[1] Original Story by Arthur Laurents: A Memoir of Broadway and Hollywood, p. 123.

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 But it does not prove SCOTT AND GRANT double-dated or single-dated or anything, and thus cannot be used encyclopedically to prove the nature of their relationship. [[User:Monkeyzpop|Monkeyzpop]] 04:30, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 :Quote: "Cary Grant and Randolph Scott famously lived together as bachelors; to prove it, they double-dated." This means that Arthur Laurents knew well that Grant and Scott lived together as a homosexual couple and didn't want to make their feelings public. A person who worked in Hollywood in the movie business for 30 years said, "It's true, everyone knows who's gay and bi. This includes people who have recently come out or have been "outed" and many who never have. One lesbian has gone to incredible lengths to hide her sexuality for years. The public has no idea but anyone in the business knows." You can be sure that screenwriter Arthur Laurents knew what was going on. [[User:Onefortyone|Onefortyone]] 01:16, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
+:Did it ever occur to you that they double dated with women, you frickin pinhead?--[[User:Mr Zuckles|Mr Zuckles]] 22:55, 27 April 2007 (UTC)