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Welcome!

Hello, Tamokk, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Ah, I do like it. :) Thanks man. —Khoi khoi 04:45, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gaumarjos Tamok. I can hardly help with references but I'd suggest to add Abkhazia/Abkhazians, Ossetia/Ossetians and Ingushetia/Ingushetians to the list. These terms are originally derived from Georgian. I'll try to find some references for that. Cheers, --Kober 08:26, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Georgia WikiProject

Please check out the discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#Georgia_.28country.29 Chris 03:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tamokk gaumarjos. Zalian gtxov, ar gabrazde. Soso cota emociuria, but he’s still a good guy ;) Axla ziritadad dakavebuli var apxazetis tematikit, magram imedi makvs shemogiertdebi Georgia statiaze mushaobashi. Cheers, Kober^Talk 06:40, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tamokk gamarcoba, I totally understand you and welcome your initiatives and hard work. That article definitely needs lots of work (especially culture, economy and adding more photos-Abkhazia article is larger and has more photos). Anyway, you are not vandal or Bolshevik. Take a look at Armenia article. They have worked on it hard and it is well presentable. Georgia article looks very plain and does not represent the country in its true colors (thank God i have travelled there many times). So continue your work and together we will improve it. I have very limited time unfortunately and im working currently on User:Ldingley/Religion in Abkhazia (Georgia). So good luck and all the best. Luis. Ldingley 14:53, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Come on, what's wrong with the economy section. I wrote it and User:Aecis also thinks that it is fine User talk:Sosomk#Georgia (country)#Economy SosoMK 12:35, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Understanding the problem

I really don't understand what do you want, just tell me what is your point. I agree that Georgians have superior intellectual and physical qualities, but what does that have to do with this issue? I understand that Russians can't even run their country, so that's why they needed Georgian Stalin, Shevardnadze, Beria, Tsanava and Orjonikidze, I think that's what you meant. SO, now when we have our desired freedom, we must use our superior intelligence to benefit our beautiful country. SosoMK 12:40, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I just meant that your edits so far made Georgia look bad on wikipedia. For example, removing Ilia's picture from the economy section and cooperating with Communist vandal User:WGee and removing the country's aspiration to be a liberal democracy and saying that Georgian lands first were unified as a nation-state in 1008. As you know, Georgia has been a nation-state since the foundation of Kingdom of Kartli(Iberia) and later Kartli incorporated all the small Georgian kingdoms and principalities. SosoMK 12:45, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And whatch out for the Wiki Tribal Leader User:Khoikhoi, b/c people like him damage wikipedia and oppress the freedom of thought, thanks. SosoMK 12:49, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Response from User:Sosomk

Dear Tamokk, as we know Germany and Italy do not have long histories as nation-states, because they were not unified countries until the 1800s. Culturally they are diverse countries and they explicitly say that. On the other hand, Georgia has a history as a nation-state since the foundation of Kingdom of Iberia by Pharnavaz. As for economy, if you wonna look at good economy sections, please take a look at England, United States and Canada. SosoMK 15:45, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I think that liberalism is an idea that individuals must develop their abilities to the fullest extent, where they have economic, social and political rights to be the citizens of their motherland, Georgia. SosoMK 15:48, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Georgia

Hi there! The economy of Georgia is beyond my scope, but I shall try. :) Corticopia 13:17, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry Tamokk, my mistake. Fixed, or you can remove the thing if it does not suit the article. Best Regards Ldingley 15:29, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! Thanks for your note and tweaks to the introduction. I'm not so worried about its inclusion in Euro-international organisations (e.g., Council of Europe), since this is indicated further down in the introduction. I'm more concerned with sourcing assertions that it is, from a sociopolitical perspective, European. I remember seeing a link somewhere with statements from the Georgian prime minister (?) about its European nature and the country being in Europe (indicating something like it being part of Europe is a fait accompli); I don't recall exactly where these are now, but something like that would do. A reference from a source outside of Georgia would also help. I hope this helps; I've gotta go, but I'll be back later.. Corticopia 09:15, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again. I have submitted the following report; please feel free to comment. Thanks. Corticopia 23:05, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't realise that I removed anything that was important. I now understand, and I apologise for my attitude and prior comments to you (since retracted) -- I am very stressed out. But I am finding it frustrating to edit these articles. :) Feel free to drop me a note if you have any questions or need assistance. Corticopia 13:24, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, one more thing: what is it exactly that you were trying to retain? If I knew/know what it is, I can integrate it into the ~~other~~neutral introduction. Let me know when able. Merci. Corticopia 03:00, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

არა გცხვენია?

დიმიტრი, კაი ცოტა კაცურად მოიქეცი, რას შვები, რატომ წუწუნებ? თუ რამის შეცვლა გინდა ადამიანურად ქართულ ენაზე ამიხსენი და ერთად დავწეროთ სტატია. SosoMK 04:04, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

კიდევ ერთხელ გეუბნები, ჩვენი edit ების მიზანი უნდა იყოს რამე კარგის დაწერა და არა რაღაც ბავშვური თამაში. მე პირადად დიდად არ მენაღვლება ევროპა ეწერება თუ აზია, საქართველო ევროპაშიც და აზიაშიც საქართველო იქნბეა, მაგრამ დღევანდელი პოლიტიკური ვითარებდან გამომდინარე უფრო სწორი იქნება რომ ევროპა ეწერება. კიდევ ერთ რამეს ვიტყვი რომ იმ მომხმარებლების ვისი საქართველოზე ცოდნაში დარწმუნებული არ ვარ, უბრალოდ არ მჯერა რომ რაიმე "კონსტრუქციული" წვლილის შეტანა შეუძლიათ სტატიაში. SosoMK 16:12, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Georgia

Hi. Thanks for your correction on agriculture. I’m currently mostly working on the articles pertaining to Georgian literature and theater, trying to avoid an involvement in the controversial topics due to my preoccupation with real life stresses. :) Best, Kober^Talk 07:12, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You know when reading that conversation, I have a sad reminiscence of a time past when a civil war raged in Georgia with the third party involvement. :( Ok, take it easy, man… Henceforth, I will try to mediate this dispute and assume a role of a peacenik. :) Kober^Talk 07:26, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of improving that article, you are damaging it. You unproductive discources with Soso and also insulting him (without any means of co-operation) already damaged a huge portion of that article. What is your intention? To delete sources information and incert some mediocre sentences? Or you have personal grudges with Soso, and you don’t really care for that article? Now you found a guy who has no idea about Georgia (I don’t think he even read anything about the country) who is removing valuable information and incerting his own understanding. Its destructive and unproductive. I can wage rv wars with you both bodies on that article and bring tons of sources which oppose your views. But why should I do that? I would rather work with you and improve that article in civic way, without any conflict and confrontation. However, if you continue your rv wars with your friend (with no knowledge of the country) ad fight other Georgian users I will get involved. Ldingley 14:26, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok Tamo, I give up. Im really tired of arguments and back-firing. No need of that indeed. Do whatever you want. Cheers. Ldingley 15:38, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

--Kober^Talk 20:26, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Armenia

OK, I see now (after glancing at your post-Caligvla changes) -- thanks. Again, I apologise for my behaviour and comments earlier -- I have been way too stressed out recently. I do believe, though, that there is a conspiracy against the truth in some of these transcontinental articles. (Oh my.) Merci! Corticopia 03:16, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your understanding. Actually, most of my stress is induced by real-world activities (e.g., job issues, ill mother), so stress editing here is icing on the cake. :) Corticopia 03:24, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Recognition of Excellence

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I hereby award you this special Sergo Orjonikidze Barnstar for all the great contributions on Wikipedia, especially on Georgia (country). Keep up the great work! SosoMK 10:32, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! But I like Lavrenti Beria more (especially if it comes with a face as in the picture on the Times magazine cover, and the title enemy of the people). Why don't I get that too? Tamokk 01:06, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah why dont you also give him Joseph Goebbels medal, it seems he admires monsters like Beria. Ldingley 15:06, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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	Thanks! But I like Lavrenti Beria more (especially if it comes with a face as in the picture on the Times magazine cover, and the title enemy of the people). Why don't I get that too? [[User:Tamokk\|Tamokk]] 01:06, 6 June 2007 (UTC)		Thanks! But I like Lavrenti Beria more (especially if it comes with a face as in the picture on the Times magazine cover, and the title enemy of the people). Why don't I get that too? [[User:Tamokk\|Tamokk]] 01:06, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

			: Yeah why dont you also give him [[Joseph Goebbels]] medal, it seems he admires monsters like Beria. [[User:Ldingley\|Ldingley]] 15:06, 6 June 2007 (UTC)