Talk:Timbaland

Plagiarism controversy

A video comparing original composer Janne Suni's track to Timbaland and Furtado's is available on YouTube.

Its not entirely false. Timbaland is planning to do something with the WWE Divas in his next video. and he is also going to sign some kind of deal with the WWE.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/timbaland

Edward Edward609va 21:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

--Darkbright 22:07, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

I have the URL for the other party in the plagarism issue, thought this should be added for fairness to both sides. Acidjazzed evening plagarism

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http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/music/artist/card/0,,586269,00.html check this one /\

General Discussion

Isn't timbaland the guy in cry me a river from cry me a river, the guy in the car?--60.226.31.60 05:55, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes. --FuriousFreddy 08:01, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Is this the same Timbaland did a remix of Nelly Furtado's single "Turn Off the Light" from the "Whoa Nelly" album. He's credited on the CD single, so had worked with Nelly before. This isn't mentioned either on this page, or on Nelly's page.

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{{editprotected}} uhm- can someone please change "Paris Hilton's click" to "Paris Hilton's clique"? Things like that make baby jebus cry.

 Done Cbrown1023 talk 17:02, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

beef?

Why the word choice? Beef? I don't think many encyclopedia's use slang terms. The section is interesting, though.

slated to work with muse !?

does anybody know the source of this citation ?

Assist me with Project, please!

I am seeking the most greatest feat all DJs have never attempted before! The ULTIMATE TIMBALAND RE-MIX. I hope this article can assist me with finding all of the songs I need to complete my quest. This is why I would like to see all the songs Timbaland has ever produced! Please help me! --Sakamura

timbaland african?

Isn't timbaland half indian, that's why he has a lot of India-style bhangra influenced beats, i think he said in one of his songs, "I'm black with Indian..."

Magoo said that, not Timbaland...and he meant Native American. --FuriousFreddy 02:45, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Timbaland is a legend!!!! <3#

Kaiser Sensei?

Does anyone know what Timbaland is referring to when he calls himself Kaiser Sensei in the intro to "Pony"?

answer: "kaiser sosoe" is popular figure popularized by the mid-90's movie "the usual suspects" used as an alias for timbalands behind the scenes production. [cisco at cysk001@mac.com/] send me a message to start and join the timbaland group!!

Timbaland's Style

The interesting thing about Timbaland is his style of music and rythm. You can always recognize a Timbaland heavy beat in any song. Not too diverse but still very catchy and unique....

Timbal ?

Timbal is ancient african instrument. The brazilian group Timbalada uses heavily it.

how many songs??

how many songs has timbaland produced? should this be referenced?

I believe so. There's quite a bit of Songs missing from the list: Wonder'bout and Let Me give you my love are a few. --Sakamura

Dear editor

Good morning, I suggest this, for the article. The information need to be commplied with an Celebrity Infobox, and another things. Wherever, needs to be reorganized for be a complete wiki-article. Thank you.

Good Bye

New Compilation Album?

I've heard that a movie about Missy Elliott's life is being made. I wonder if this new compilation album Timbaland is working on could be the soundtrack for the movie? something similar to Tim's Bio: From the Motion Picture: Life From Da Bassment?

Justin Timberlake said that he is writting hooks for Timbaland's upcoming album in a recent interview on Jimmy Kimmel Live.

Timbachick latest edits

As you can see in the history, user Timbachick seems dead set to remove the Plagiarism controversy paragraph. What are the circumstances for an user/ip ban? On a sidenote, if her claims are true and she IS an intern for Timbaland, would that mean that THIS is an official action by Timbaland? Could it be that Timbaland is actively removing information about all this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.122.59.104 (talk) 01:54, 21 January 2007 (UTC).

Timbachick has done nothing yet that I see as bannable. It is definitely a single-purpose account, but that is allowed as long as it it not being used for vote stacking. We should simply treat this user as we would any other fan. If she violates WP:3RR or persists in ignoring talk page warnings etc, then there may be justification to escalate this to WP:ANI or WP:AIV. —Dgies^t c 03:15, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

new beef section needs to be added

a new scott storch vs timbaland beef has arisen. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by LightSpeed1 (talk • contribs) 02:33, 27 February 2007 (UTC).

Admitted the Sample-Theft of Janne Sunnis song

I heard he recently admitted in a public radio interview that he used the sample from Janne Sunnis Song in Nelly Furtados "Do It" Song - does anyone got a reliable source for this?

The radio interview was made in a show called Eliot in the Morning and is available for download at their homepage, the interview was made February 02, 2007, the part about the rip off controversy is from about 6:00 http://www.eitmonline.com/eitmonline2/media/eitmlive/timbaland2.mp3 http://www.eitmonline.com/live.html , a transcript of that part of the interview is available at http://www.zxdemo.org/extra/timbaland_radio_transcript.txt . My interpretation of what Timbaland says is that he didn't steal the song, but he sampled it, and that he didn't have time to clear the sample due to a deadline for Nelly Furtado's record (although that isn't exactly true as he used the same 15 second sample for a ringtone the year earlier, so he had plenty of time to clear the sample prior to Nelly Furtados record Loose).

He doesn't mention which song he sampled (other than it's from a game), but it is obvious that it is Glenn R. Gallefoss' c64 cover of Janne Suni's Acidjazzed Evening that is the song that has been sampled (audio comparison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2JjPFd7Jr8 ) , check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Timbaland_plagiarism_controversy for attributable sources about the obviousness. 81.227.1.131 20:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Other Producers

“Timbaland is similar to producers such as Phil Spector, Brian Eno, or Norman Whitfield in that he helped to redefine the sound of an entire genre of music with an immediately recognizable production style.” --- I removed this ridiculous comparison from the opening of the article as it has no basis in reality. It was clearly written as a stretch to cram a flavor of the month producer into the pantheon of the greats; and is hardly neutral. Sorry, but comparing the inventor of the “Wall of Sound” technique that created some of the most memorable pop symphonies of the ‘60s, the pioneer of the legendary Motown sound, and the reigning king of sonic soundscapes to a guy who fucks around in ProTools until he comes up with “beats” is nothing short of offensive. Unless somebody can cite a credible source to somehow draw this insane comparison, I will continue to delete it anytime some idiot posts it.

sorry angry/ign'ant kid, Tim's a lot more than a "flavor of the month" producer, whether ya like him or not. that bit was not making a judgment on his accomplishments compared to those guys, just saying that he's had a similar huge influence on his respective genre, which he has. 134.69.166.175 02:58, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Heh. I didn't know "flavors of the month" remained relevant for a decade; Timbaland's been a major influence on first R&B, then hip-hop, and now pop since 1996 and his first hits for Aaliyah (how can anyone not have heard of Timbaland before now). Don't remove it again. And, for the record, Whitfield is a pioneer of the Motown sound, not the pioneer. --FuriousFreddy 05:32, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

At least cite a credible source, or make a reasonable argument as to how this is anymore than mere opinion. Also, someone please explain to me how my reasonable argument for the removal of the phrase shouldn't be given precedence (or at least equal consideration) over a guy who just spelled "ignorant" as "ign'ant" on a website that supposedly prides itself on accuracy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.103.91.207 (talk) 05:30, 30 April 2007(UTC).

For the record, if you look at the two sources cited, one compares him to Brian Eno and the other to Norman Whitfield and Phil Spector. It's not speculation, it's referenced in reliable sources. You might disagree with something in Wikipedia, it happens. But it is important to know that Wikipedia is not about truth; it's about verifiability. Also, don't forget to sign your comments by putting ~~~~ at the end of your comment. Thanks! Rockstar (^T/_C) 05:40, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

question

can any 1 tell me how much is timb worth

Bjork?

I don't know much about either Bjork or Timbaland, but someone recently told me that Timbaland is producing or has produced Bjork's latest album. I thought that this was VERY strange considering that they make vastly different kinds of music...has anyone else heard or read about this? If true, perhaps this warrants a mention in the article? --WassermannNYC 12:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

it's true, read this http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/41776/Bjork_Announces_Tour_Dates_Talks_Timbaland_Collab ;)--NeptunianDroid 04:38, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Failed GA

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I've failed this article for GA status. The biggest problem is that the article needs references and citations for its content. There are problems with original research in analyzing his style, and I don't see any citations for the quotations. The Plagiarism controversy section is not in chronological order; it also needs to be expanded because two sentences simply is not enough to summarize the 2007 Timbaland plagiarism controversy article. Lone years should not be linked. The After Swing Mob: 1995 - 1996 is too short. Also, the song titles in the Rivalry with Scott Storch section shouldn't be bolded. ShadowHalo 04:31, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Rivalry with Scott Storch

This section needs some massive clean-up and referencing. Take a look at Scott Storch's page for a better example of what this should look like. I went ahead and found a couple references about both Timbaland Presents Shock Value (the latter) and the beef (both):

• BBC.co.uk's blog
• NYT article

Check them out and let's clean this section up. Then let's get it promoted! Rockstar915 04:39, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

"Singles" sections?

is there a reason for there being two sections on Timbaland's singles? The sections are almost identical, although there is one additional track named in the second. Also the chart position of the track 'Give It To Me' is different in the two lists. Does anybody know which is correct? thanks Zero187 16:56, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

The right wing vs. Timbaland (with Hillary Clinton)

The right wing is attacking Timbaland and Hillary Clinton after she attended a fundraiser for the rap producer. Not to mention that Timbaland has not responded to the accusations of the Focus On Family, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Fox News, and Rush Limbaugh right wing machine. I'm sorry, I support decisions but for the right wing to attack on a person who had nothing to do in the political field is totally ludicrous...not Ludacris. LILVOKA 20:38, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

If there are reliable sources that state this fact, add this info to the controversies section of the article! Good find. Rockstar (^T/_C) 00:09, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

More plagiarism

This article needs something on his plagiarism of SID or chiptunes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.189.5.232 (talk) 20:41, 14 May 2007 (UTC).

Article locked

The article's locked for editing - please could someone correct the capitalisation of the "Production Discography" section to "Production discography"? Thanks, 86.152.203.212 10:00, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Please? Or if not, unlock it so I can do it? 86.152.203.212 17:44, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Hello?? Is this article protected and nobody's monitoring the talk page? Please could someone make this change - it's a very simple request... 86.152.203.212 12:23, 18 May 2007 (UTC) {{editprotected}}

• I have made the requested change. Note that the article is only semi-protected, which means that you could edit it 4 days after you register an account. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 15:24, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

The "Z."

Excuse me, but what does the "Z." from his middle name stand for? --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 17:03, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Zane, I think. Rockstar (^T/_C) 15:41, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

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And the band with Nelly Furtado?

New Official Timbaland Site

The official blog/news site is:

http://thethomascrownchronicles.com/

Can it be added to the list of websites at the bottom of Timbaland's wiki page?

Thank you!