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Other CL fanfics

Along with Pretty Guardian Sailor Lyoko, Jeremie and the Renault Factory, and Blast Into The Past, I will also work on two other stories:

The first one is called The Wedding of Two Worlds. It is a romance/wedding story that foretells of the wedding between [[Jim Moral�s]] and Suzanne Hertz.

A 'sequel' to "Then Jim Rode In" ([1]) that portrays the wedding of Jim and Suzanne. According to a Lyokian prophecy, if an adult virtual warrior (Jim) marries an Earth woman (Suzanne), the two parallel worlds will be alligned together as one world. Before their nuptials, Jeremie and his friends must do battle with XANA, as he plans on disrupting the prophecy.

Blast Into The Future, a sequel to Blast Into The Past.

--User:Angie Y.

I'm sad to report...

I am sad to report that our dreams are temporarily crush-ed. :'( --User:Angie Y.

New Lyokian powers! =D

Aelita, Odd, and Ulrich will get new powers in Lyoko! --User:Angie Y.

Whoa! Where did you get that information? Oh I hope Aelita gets a weapon! --Jeremie@theLab 00:11, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

I got it from codelyoko.net and codelyoko.fr. --User:Angie Y.

Ha! Did you read in the Season 3 preview how XANA is living in the Internet servers of the United States? Gotta love the French for sticking our country with XANA. Have you ever tracked the USA-France animosity in CL? The only time the artists showed the American flag, its stars and half of the stripes were obscured. DISRESPECT!  Jeremie@theLab 

Yeah! At least the US will finally be on XANA's dooming list. --User:Angie Y.

Xana's lazy now. He's had several months of freedom and hasn't done so much as lift a finger to squash his enemies in the real world. As for the topic of the section, Aelita's able fire devastating balls of energy that are aesthetically pleasing at the same time. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 03:17, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Plus, Odd has been held back a grade for unknown and unfair reasons! He passed the School Finals in Final Mix! --User:Angie Y.

He hasn't been held back a grade. He was just put in different classes. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 14:39, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh. Okay. --User:Angie Y.

I found some screecaps on codelyoko.fr. under their Season 3 section. CAN'T WAIT FOR THE EPISODE! Jeremie's new superscanning program looks amazing. It appears that, by targeting servers in once country (in the case of his example, Egypt), he can scan the servers of every country in any given continent! He does the same to North America, sending out a signal from Canada. You know why I think XANA is being lazy? If you're going to bring down the world's premier super power, do it style and class. He's probably learning our weaknesses and how he can exploit our computer networks to wreak havoc. That's my hypothesis anyway. And, how did Odd pass his Final Exam? He turned the paper into an origami duck?! --Jeremie@theLab 01:02, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

No, no! After the return trip, Jeremie agreed to help Odd with his exam questions, as he failed before the trip. Plus, I think they think of Jimbo as an enemy now. :( --User:Angie Y.

Darn! Jim could be useful too!  Jeremie@theLab 

I know! :'( --User:Angie Y.

The hero wiki

Hello Angie.Y I Djf2014 Have created a wiki called The Hero Wiki

Making more Looney Tunes cartoon articles

Hey, I made Satan's Waitin'. Agtaz 03:24, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I need help writing the full plot summary to Back Alley Op-Roar. Angie Y. 03:26, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Alright, how may I help you? Agtaz 19:30, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Just type up a full plot summary of the cartoon. Maybe think about what you remember most about it. Angie Y. 19:49, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, check it out. Agtaz 16:59, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Personally, it's a little too short. I just wish a movie file of the cartoon is available. Angie Y. 17:04, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

User:TTN

Thanks for your message. Yes, as I mentioned on TTN's Talk page, it's incredibly ignorant just to cast aside (in my case) months of work. Thanks to Gwinva and Tim!, all the YM/YPM pages have been reverted. There are many TV shows that have individual episode articles on Wikipedia, and equally a great many editors who give their time to maintain them. TTN needs to be a bit more considerate, IMO. Chris 42 12:44, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree. All my hard work has been DESTROYED thanks to this weirdo! TTN never really contributes ANYTHING! Angie Y. 13:14, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

There's nothing to stop you reverting to your pages if you feel it's justified. You're not alone: see the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Using Wikipedia:Television episodes. Chris 42 13:21, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I saw, but what can I do? I'm too scared to say anything. Angie Y. 13:27, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Never be scared to state your opinion: it's your right. Just add to the discussion as you see fit (but without resorting to any sort of personal attacks, if possible). See Help:Reverting if you need any assistance in getting your pages back. :-) Chris 42 13:42, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

TTN said this to me in his edit summary:

(Unless you actually have something relevant to say, please go away.) Angie Y. 00:04, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Those articles were discussed long ago, so don't try to bring them back. TTN 14:21, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Bring them back. Things change. --164.107.222.23 23:54, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I, too, am afraid of User:TTN. So afraid, in fact, that I'm logging in as an anon so that he doesn't know I'm talking about him. Chris 42, TTN has admin friends that he relies on to "keep his way" intact. You ask us to "revert our pages", but he just gets one of his people to block individuals who do that. Be careful, Angie Y, or you'll find yourself blocked too. 67.94.201.2 07:46, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

He even has supprters backing him up! Angie Y. 20:47, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm not too well-up on the situation, but deleting/redirecting so many articles like that is somewhat screwed up. We NEED television articles, as plot summaries in 'list of episodes' simply doesn't cut without proper articles. I understand some user's fearing of speaking out, but I will do so strongly and openly. Even if TTN can explain his viewpoint, doing things like this and not responding to anyone else's view properly is simply wrong - especially on a site that's dedicated to information. King Wagga 16:29, 7 June 2007

How are we going to stop him? Angie Y. 15:38, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

There's no real way to stop him. He's wikibullying. The best thing to do is to hope that both sides learns something from the ordeal for wikipedia's betterment. Don't let it bother you and keep contributing to wikipedia. Keep up the good work. Zuracech lordum 05:11, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm scared to. He may bully me some more. :'( Angie Y. 10:14, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

He's not wikibullying anyone, and he hasn't done anything wrong. Sorry to burst your bubble, but there already is a consensus on this. -- Ned Scott 05:28, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Comments made by Angie.Y

1.) "TTN doesn't even add anything to his/her userpage",

2.) "We don't even know what gender you are"

3.) "very stuck-up and arrogant!"

4.) "I strongly suggest you pack your bags and leave"

5.) "will get you banned if you yourself don't clean up YOUR OWN messes. So I strongly suggest that you clean up the messes you made or you will suffer the consequences. Do I make myself clear?"

These comments irritated me somewhat.

1.) Is it a requirement that you must add to your userpage? I don't think that's exactly what wikipedia is about.

2.) Gender is of no importance to someones edits to wikipedia.

3.) This is an attack on editor not content.

4, 5.) This sounds like bullying to me.

You claim that TTN is being a bully, but I think you should examine the things that you are saying. It's not very pleasant. As a result of me making this comment, and showing that I am a "TTN supporter", should I now be banned from editing? ("you and your supporters should be banned from Wikipedia. --Angie.Y)

I understand that tension is high, but you lose any moral high ground you think you have, by making unpleasant and unnessary comments like the ones aforementioned.
Seraphim Whipp 12:54, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

EDIT: I'd just like to mention that I did not make this comment because I am a TTN supporter, I made it because I thought you should be aware of your behaviour.

Seraphim Whipp 12:58, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Alright already! Angie Y. 13:40, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

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Episode fiasco

If you would like add your two cents on this issue, please also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Mass_deletion_of_television_articles_by_TTN --164.107.222.23 23:11, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you so much! =D You're awesome! Angie Y. 23:14, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, someone just removed one of your comments on the Episode discussion page. --164.107.222.23 00:29, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Why that little...! Angie Y. 00:40, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

You do realize that whoever you are talking to is not Jimbo Wales, right? -- Ned Scott 02:54, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh...whoops. Angie Y. 02:55, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

If you want to contact Jimbo Wales simply go to the Help desk as stated on the profile of his page. -Adv193 04:41, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay. Angie Y. 11:12, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Codelyoko193

They're back. Codelyoko193 02:35, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

How are they back? TTN is gonna revert them again! :'( Angie Y. 02:37, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean this? Codelyoko193 02:39, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

No, the actual articles on the episodes! TTN deleted them with no permission to do so! Angie Y. 02:40, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh. Well I agree with TTN, whoever that is. Codelyoko193 02:42, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

You do? But thousands of hours of hard work by editors is gone! Angie Y. 02:43, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Seperate articles for episodes are unnecessary, as long as they are all in one place (this). Codelyoko193 02:46, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

User:King Wagga and I do NOT agree with that! This is Wikipedia, not a totalitarianism! Angie Y. 03:19, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia also has policies on what can be included. It seems likes the only argument you can provide is one where you stamp your feet and say "It's not fair", despite the fact that many editors who are involved with this discussion have given a variety of reasons why separate articles on each episode is a negative thing. TTN did not delete the articles, s/he redirected them, and the information is preserved in the page history. As well as this, you don't need permission to edit wikipedia- TTN was being bold.

Everyone understands that many hours of work went into making these articles, but the fact is that some, not all, should not have been made in the first place.

If you want the articles to stay, get sources for real world information. Make them rich in knowledge about why the directors choose to do certain things or the story behind why certain actors were chosen for the episodes. Plot summaries by themselves can be considered as copyright violation. Have a go at trying to get on board with everyone because they are really trying to help; they are trying their best to do what's right for wikipedia as a whole.

Seraphim Whipp 09:16, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

WP:EPISODE isn't a Policy- it is a Wikipedia Guideline, which is entirely different. I've noticed that editors here have been confusing the two, and would recommend that you embark on further study regarding Wiki's rule system so that confusion doesn't happen in the future. 67.94.201.2 03:01, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Nowehere in my comment did I suggest that it was a policy actually. :-). For the sake of clarity, my first statement was referring to these policies:

• Wikipedia:No_original_research
• Wikipedia:Verifiability
• Wikipedia:Deletion_policy

I suggest Angie take a glance at these specific policies:

• Wikipedia:Deletion_policy#Merging
• Wikipedia:Copyrights
• Wikipedia:Civility

Seraphim Whipp 08:06, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I already did. Angie Y. 10:10, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

This is really, really obsessive. The episodes were merged; they are gone until proper sources are found. Merging smaller topics into larger ones is a natural process of this site. Obsessing over me, every person I talk to, and every discussion that I have isn't going to change that. So please, just work on productive things like trying to find sources for out of universe information to place on the Code Lyoko episodes instead of placing meaningless messages all over the place. TTN 12:21, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

What do you MEAN by sources? The articles were properly-sourced, until you messed with them! If you were a little kinder and less disruptive, they would have been improved to look better, but NO! You had to be disruptive, didn't you?

A while back, I contacted a Wikipedia administrator about your behavior. If it is NOT stopped, I am afraid I will have to contact him again. Your behavior will NOT go unpunished, mister! User:Vilerocks, User: King Wagga, and many others would agree with me. Angie Y.

Reliable sources are needed, not primary ones (the episodes). Without those, a fictional topic cannot stand alone. It needs to be merged into a larger topic related to it or deleted if that is the case. I asked if sources were possible, and nothing was provided. They would still be the same if I had just went away. And remember, I contacted you in the first place, and I tried to be nice and patient, but you, like those other users, have a flaky understanding of our fiction guidelines. I doubt anyone is going to ban me for following them. TTN 12:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

So you're saying it was our fault?! Angie Y. 12:38, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

It's nobody's "fault." They were redirected because they fail the guideline. At any time, you are free to find sources and bring them back. That is it. TTN 12:41, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Your behavior and constant deletion of information/redirecting of articles is angering lots and lots of editors and it may have even inspired one guy to want to vanish from Wikipedia. You need to STOP! Angie Y. 13:03, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Again, merging and trimming are part of the cleanup process. The people that wrote the information won't like it, but the articles never should have existed in the first place anyways. TTN 14:25, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

They won't like it, because it's disruptive. --172.162.87.80 16:58, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Can I help?

I'm awake for the next twenty minutes. :) —Viriditas | Talk 13:13, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I see you need admin assistance. Sorry. Well, if you need help or opinion, let me know. Thanks for caring. —Viriditas | Talk 13:17, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Wait, wait, wait, come back! Angie Y. 15:13, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Angie, you might want to work with PeaceNT (talk · contribs), an administrator who has offered to help you out on the noticeboard. Please contact her. I'm not an admin, so I can't offer you any more than help, advice, and support. Feel free to contact me, though. —Viriditas | Talk 20:15, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Alert

I wanted to warn you about your behavior because it can be used against you. Your comments on people's page "do you want TTN gone?" appear as though you are trying to start a fight. I'd be very careful. I know you disagree with TTN's action, but you can't go around trying to ban people together in an effort to get others in trouble, or start a cyber fight with them. It just isn't cool, and I'm sure you could probably get blocked or even banned for it. Just thought I'd let you know.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 18:28, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Right, okay. I'm sorry. Angie Y. 18:29, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

You don't need to apologize, I just wanted to warn you about it because there's no need for people to get blocked, or banned, if it can be avoided.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 19:27, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Angie, please stop with this. Again, there is nothing wrong with merging smaller topics into larger ones. You have no actual basis for your argument. People disagreeing with me doesn't make me a villain. I'm just cleaning stuff up. This is mainly due to the CL episodes, so instead of wasting your time on a crusade, go find some sources. TTN 19:31, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm a bit shocked that TTN hasn't been temporarily blocked until the issue with his disruptive editing is resolved. --172.162.87.80 16:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

What are you talking about? Sources, Shmources - THE ARTICLES WERE ALREADY SOURCED! And even if they weren't, you could have kindly directed us to places where such things were available. You COULD have been a little nicer, too! You are a Wikivillain, because you have failed a top guideline:

WP:DISRUPT!

I will have no other choice but to report you to the Arbitration Committee if you don't cease and desist this disruption. You are making editors ANGRY!!. I have been calm and patient, and I have tried to reason and discuss with you, but you did NOT listen to me nor any of the people you wronged:

• User:Vilerocks
• User:King Wagga
• User:Ckatz

among many others.

So please, please stop this. :) I'm trying to be nice, but firm. Angie Y. 19:42, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Again, merging isn't a bad or disruptive thing. Regarding the CL episodes, they had only primary sources, which, again, aren't good enough to warrant inclusion on this site. They need reliable, second party sources for that to happen. I brought the initial discussion to you, I gave you all the reasons, and I tried to explain it to you, but from what I recall you just said "That's stupid!" Who exactly is the civil one there? Making people that fail to understand WP:N and WP:V mad doesn't really matter to me nor would it matter to the Arbitration Committee or really anyone else. Just because a few people feel "wronged", it doesn't mean that I'm evil or disruptive. TTN 19:54, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh really? Angie Y. 19:56, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Ask pretty much anyone that doesn't deal with fiction articles on a regular basis, and they'll tell you the same thing. Please just stop with this. Nothing will come from it. TTN 20:04, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

ALRIGHT ALREADY!! Angie Y. 20:09, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Using Vilerocks as an example isn't helping your cause, he has a history of not following policy, failing things such as WP:N and WP:V, as well as every single type of disruptive behavior you can think of. Just to let you know. - Zero1328 _Talk? 02:49, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Biased attitudes agianst me won't get you anywhere Zero1328, as for TTN, if piss off so many people with your edits, I would advise you rethink your methods. Vilerocks 15:14, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

I STRONGLY concur. Angie Y. 20:30, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Third Opinion Needed?

I've been following the "debate" between you and User:TTN, and I think that it's time to move beyond negotiation and get a third opinion or a mediator. This whole thing is unconstructive, and it looks bad on Wiki as a whole for those involved. I've posted this on TTN's talk page as well. Suigi 03:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

How do I do that?

Wait, I know who. My friends at Lyoko Freak.

Angie Y. 04:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Uh...no. The pages I linked to will yield a request for an unbiased third-party opinion, not someone from your Code Lyoko forums who will be biased in that they want the individual episode pages to remain, and will be on your side. And regardless, TTN has quashed the idea; since mediation is a voluntary process, that doesn't work. Check his explanation on his talk page. Suigi 04:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

You know what the final step is, dontcha? Arbitration. Anyway, I have to go. It's my bedtime. Angie Y. 04:45, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

As a neutral observer, I have already stated my opinion on this matter. I will repeat it again. TTN has justified his actions everywhere, and you should have seen it multiple times. His justification is that he is merely following policy. If you have a problem, do not pester the people following the policy, but rather try to talk about the policy itself on it's proper page. - Zero1328 _Talk? 05:11, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

It's a guideline, not a policy. There's a difference, Zero1328. 67.94.201.2 09:24, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Whether it's guideline or policy, I still mean the same thing. There's no point getting angry at someone who isn't at as much fault, especially as the issue about him is now cleared. If you want to do something, go to WP:EPISODE and talk there, do not use TTN as a scapegoat to avoid the real issue. I have already seen enough incivility by everyone involved. - Zero1328 _Talk? 16:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

The issue has not been cleared, only archived with no resolution tag noted. Obviously, people are still upset at that editor's behavior. --172.162.87.80 17:04, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

No, one person is dragging around their personal opinion to a number of other people's talk pages, looking for a fight in which they can recruit people. That person is Angie Y. with a couple of IP's siding with everything said. This is disruptive behaviour and it doesn't solve anything. What resolution are you looking for?

Seraphim Whipp 18:41, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Your message

Okay, Angie, I am aware of the incident. I noticed that lengthy thread on WP:ANI a few days ago (and already commented there). Still, I'm unsure why you need administrative intervention (deletions/blocks/page protections) here? :) I've looked at the contributions of the editor in question, apparently they haven't redirected any articles for the last few days. Merging per discussion is fine and not the same as removing articles (it is much better than simply redirecting) Anyway, I can see there's an on-going debate at talk WP:EPISODE. Rest assured that this editor is certainly not allowed to redirect more articles on television episodes until a consensus can be reached by that discussion. I'm sure User:TTN will stop for the time being as this is a fact that undoubtedly they (should) understand. You needn't be worried. Take care, Peacent 10:06, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I heard he will do it again. Angie Y. 15:05, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Huh, could you show me where they said that? Peacent 15:06, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Alright. It was on...on...well, I do know it was a talk page. I just can't remember which one right now, but TTN said he'd revert more episodes. Oh, the ANI thread was deleted so I don't remember what you had said there. Angie Y. 15:18, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

They might or might not, but at the least they must cease redirecting television articles until consensus can be achieved. Otherwise action will be taken against them, I assure you. Btw, the ANI thread wasn't deleted, it was archived. Peacent 15:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Ah, thank you. Angie Y. 15:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

He's at it again...

TTN is at it again! Angie Y. 11:58, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Re:Oh no!

Calm down, girl! That appears to be carried out due to proper discussion, they have reached a consensus. What is your objection here? :)

Btw sometimes people aren't calm enough to carefully choose their words in a heated debate, it is normal. Never mind them. Peacent 03:38, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

My objection is that they can be improved to look better. Angie Y. 11:33, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Then you really should take part in the discussion and raise your opinion on how the article can be improved :) Peacent 11:35, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

As long as you back me up. Angie Y. 12:27, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh well, I really should have your page watchlisted since you often reply to me here quietly :) Look, I have no opinion whatsoever about the article in question, they could merge the episodes into that page if there existed a consensus for them to do so. Should you disagree, you need to provide your arguments, otherwise they would be in the right. Peacent 13:49, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree with you about the consensus thing. But TTN needs to understand, loud and clear, that he is angering editors by doing it WITHOUT consensus. He ruined my good friend Kevin's Code Lyoko]] episode articles with nothing but a mergist attitude. My friends at Lyoko Freak are also angry at TTN and want him to stop this fiasco once and for all. :'( Angie Y. 13:59, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello

I decided to come back to Wikipedia after being away for months =D

Oh yeah, this is the only user talk page on my watchlist for some reason. Meh ~ Keiji (iNVERTED) (Talk) 03:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Who is this, exactly? Angie Y. 11:32, 15 June 2007 (UTC)