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According to her blog, she was on CBS. Can anyone confirm this?

A: Yes. She was interviewed on the TV show 'The Insider' which runs on CBS. It's been posted on YouTube. ______________ Is she catholic or agnostic? (see her Myspace page)

A Brazilian magazine, EleEla, says that she was born in Fortaleza, Brazil. http://eleela.terra.com.br/aberto/423/artigo40652-1.htm?o=r (in Portuguese)

Users posting out of sheer bordem

The first thing I would like to address the person who posted my id on here, if someone does this again i will contact my lawyer immediately. if anyone has something they would like to post that they think i may have a problem with email me at ms.sashagrey(At)yahoo.com. Again, do not put my id on wilki, or anywhere else for that matter!

Secondly, whoever the user Nolanus is, seems to want two very hideous pictures on my commons page. I have asked numerous times for these pictures to not be posted for quality control. If you look at Nolanus' page it states that he doesn't visit wiki, but he does seem to visit enough to make sure those pictures are viewable. Again, this is quality control, do not re-post these images.

I am not from Brazil, that magazine apparently said that so there editors would put me in it.

Madjabuds 03:11, 24 July 2007 (UTC)sasha grey[reply]

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If I have to use my lawyer it won't be for wiki or it's staff, it will be for users on wiki Madjabuds 03:15, 24 July 2007 (UTC)sasha grey ms.sashagrey@yahoo.com[reply]

Real name: Official warning

Per our policy Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, "Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material — whether negative, positive, or just questionable — about living persons should be removed immediately and without discussion from Wikipedia articles". Ms. Grey's real name is clearly contentious, given that she has gone to great lengths to keep it private. That means that we can't post it without it being very well sourced, meaning we need to cite a place where a reliable secondary source has widely published it already. A scan of a driver's license is not a secondary source, an anonymous web site is not a reliable source.

Do not add Ms. Grey's real name to this article without excellent sourcing. If you aren't sure, check with an experienced user or a Wikipedia:Administrator. Otherwise it will be removed, from the article and talk page. People continuing to add it despite being warned will be blocked. If unregistered users continue to add the name to the page, the page will be semi-protected, allowing only registered users to edit. I will repeat this caution on the talk pages of registered users who have posted it here already, and will block them if they repeat. Writing as a Wikipedia administrator, AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 14:12, 25 July 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Semi-protected. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 14:53, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This information is not contentious. It is just a name, and Sasha's fears over revealing it are irrational. Everyone already knows what she looks like, so a name isn't going to change anything. Also, per Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Privacy of names: "In all cases where the redaction of names is considered, editors should be willing to discuss the issue on the article's talk page." The discussion and consensus should have occurred before you removed verified fact, not after. I find your censorship despicable.--Majorofhonor 15:27, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Contentious means (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/contentious):

1.	tending to argument or strife; quarrelsome
2.	causing, involving, or characterized by argument or controversy

This clearly is contentious. That has nothing to do with whether or not her fears are rational. It's something she considers private. Until either she or a major source publishes it, we won't either. See also Wikipedia:WikiProject Pornography#Real names of performers. The policy is clear -- "should be removed immediately and without discussion" -- so we remove first, discuss after. Feel free to discuss the issue, but without writing the name itself, or you will be blocked; I'll let it go this time, don't repeat it. Being called despicable comes with the mop, no one said enforcing policies was an easy job. Or with just being a mouse. :-) --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 16:04, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked after repeated insertion, 24 hours. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 16:36, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Commons

AnonEMouse: can you also please look at my wikicommons http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sasha_Grey page where someone without a username re-posted pictures after i deleted them for quality control. A wiki admin told me to post a talk page there, and then delete them...but alas only an isp shows up deleting them-not to mention in their "comment" using my name in a derogatory fashion, can this be removed? Can you help me with this please? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madjabuds (talk • contribs) July 27, 2007 (UTC)

They're slightly different groups. I'm an admin only here on the English language Wikipedia, not on Commons, but I'll look. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 20:30, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aha. The relevant discussion seems to be on Commons:Commons:Administrators' noticeboard#Vandalism in Sasha Grey. It looks like someone from commons may have sent or may be sending you an email through your official site soon to confirm that you're the real Sasha Grey, so, if you're you, I'd watch for that email and answer it. Personally I'm not sure about the "quality control" business; the photos aren't posed professional quality, but they're neither improper nor horrible. I'd think we could stand to delete them if we have better ones, and I'll post that on Commons Admin Noticeboard page, but it's really a Commons decision. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 20:46, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So...

Can someone please explain exactly why her name can't be posted? 71.56.155.117 02:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Because we need reliable sources for all the information we post, but especially for controversial information about living persons. Since she doesn't want her real name posted, it's controversial information. Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons is the relevant policy. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 13:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't become brave with me beautiful young lady

Sorry.I am not an user but,I have a very small question. Please don't become brave with me beautiful young lady. Is it possible to be a catholic person and porn star at the same time?

Covpnt.Friday, September 07, 20071:03 AM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.0.24.58 (talk) 05:14, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Debatable. Jenna Jameson and her ex-husband Jay Grdina considered themselves Catholic to varying degrees. But then Ted Kennedy is also famous for trying to be a Catholic and an abortion rights supporter. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 13:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]