Talk:Paramore

did hunter go on hiatus or did he leave for good? if its just a hiatus then we should put him on the members list with hiatus next to his name.

He's left for good. - JDFL 17:35, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Emo

I think no band should be classified as "emo" withought their aproval. Take Panic! At The Disco, Fall Out Boy, etc. they are Pop-Punk or Alternative Rock bands not "emo". is you wanna call something emo just for the fun of it, go ahead. I'm not saying you cant. Its just extreamly rude. so those of you who want to be rude then go ahead. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.131.11.65 (talk) 17:07, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

i'm sorry i have to tell whoever put that this band is emo that they are pop-punk and there is no other genre to describe them. they sound nothing like dashboard confessional (1st wave), taking back sunday (2nd wave), FFTL (3rd wave) and other bands that are considered emo.

That's as maybe - discuss changes like this before making them please :) HawkerTyphoon 02:40, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

thats fine with me. but paramore is not rock or emo in any sense of the word if you compare it to real rock/emo bands.

Before making edits like this, you need to really prove that they aren't emo by using a reliable source, rolling stone magazine or the like = not a blog, and not amn e-zine or anything. Something official and unbiased! HawkerTyphoon 02:52, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Per Blender magazine's list of The Blender 100 one can say that this band does, in fact, qualify as emo.

Are they an emo band? No. Is there an emo influence? Yes, as with every other band out right now. While I would typically avoid genre discussions, as they are very subjective and tend to be elitist, the idea that Dashboard is the 1st wave of emo, TBS is the second, etc is just plain crazy. Emo has been around for a couple of decades, read the wiki on it. I was listening to emo bands over 10 years ago (like Sunny Day Real Estate) that emo purists wouldn't even classify as emo, and bands like TBS (even though I like them) pale in comparison to them to the same purists. If you're going to critique a band for being or not being something, you should at least be standing in the ballpark first. - Don Bradshaw

Take that up with Blender, not Wikipedia. It is an appropriate citation. Princeendo 23:45, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree with everything you've said except for the fact that this band shouldn't be labeled emo (I know, that sounded a little weird). As you can see from the ignorance of this discussion (Dashboard Confessional? first-wave emo? hah, try Rites of Spring dude), many incorrectly classify a LOT of music nowadays as emo, most of which has heavy emo influences. The thing is, as that becomes more and more prominent all of those bands with emo influences will become forms of emo. Many an example would better illustrate my point. Look at pop-punk. Know compare a pop-punk band like The Descendants and Blink-182. Both are indisputably pop-punk, but both are very different musically. In other words, yeah, Paramore isn't emo in its purest form (nor is Sunny Day Real Estate, as you've said), but really, save for a few bands in the 80s Dischord/DC scene, none are. In other words, let's give up on the fact that true emo no longer exists, and start calling the crap with heavy emo influences emo. sigloiv 03:19, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

So Blender is the definitive source for genre labeling? Finally, all the arguments will end. Did you add that to the Blender article?

I did not. I assume you did not, either. Belaboring this will not change its truth. It is an appropriate citation (check the Wikipedia section on authorities, and for the record, magazines such as Kerrang! and Rock Sound also agree with this genre label). Wikipedia discussions are supposed to be limited to the relevance of facts. This discussion is fruitless.Princeendo 21:05, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

and NME. Nemesis90 18:48, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

You cant classify paramore to EMO just because they sing about feelings. All we know is falling all songs is about loosing there band member Jeremy and I wouldnt call that EMO. EMO is today often about that you dont want to live because your love doesnt love you back.

To call Paramore Emo is just so silly. Its hard to put them in a specific genre though. Its a mix of Pop/Rock/Pop-Punk/Indie Rock and so on.

If there's this much argument, then just put emo/pop punk.

I will add emo, but keep both pop punk and alternative. Some songs can't be described other than emo such as my heart, if you listen to it.

I'm pretty sure 'My Heart' is directed towards God.

They aren't emo or Christian. They are pop/punk/rock/indie

Dashboard Confessional - 1st wave emo 0-o...You know so much about this genre... About Paramore - " They aren't emo or Christian. They are pop/punk/rock/indie "

I cant see any relevance to punk rock in this band, they are a pop/rock band.

I remember seeing this discussed on another talk page. Pop/rock is more along the lines of Pink, Kelly Clarkson, Ryan Cabrera, Maroon 5. Paramore is not pop/rock. --JYi 20:57, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

They have a very similar sound to kelly clarkson. Pop/rock is pop music influenced by rock and roll, they fit perfectly in that catergory. --Neon white 15:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Paramore do not sound like Kelly Clarkson AT ALL. You must be deaf or something. Either that or you just want to try & insult Paramore. Paramore are awesome,, so shut your face Neon white. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.178.45.74 (talk) 06:24, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

go read the guidelines on civility. WP:CIV --Neon white 18:31, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I would like to state that Paramore does not fit into the Pop-Punk genre because of the tone of the music, lyrics, and speed. Compare Paramore to Blink-182, Sum 41, Green Day, or Offspring and they definitely do not fit in the genre. I move to change the genre to pop, emo, pop-rock, or rock. But not pop-punk.

i agree with the above, i can't see any real link or similarity to the ramones, buzzcocks etc. There music is very much pop-rock, i propose the genre change if no-one can credible cite why it shouyld be pop-punk. --Neon white 21:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

• • Its just extreamly rude. so those of you who want to be rude then go ahead.**

how is emo rude?? emo means "emotive post hardcore" that isn't rude, unless you are one of those idiots who think that emo is of the devil and that Avril Lavinge and Fall out boy are punk rock and Paramore and Three Days Grace are hardcore. get over yourself —Preceding unsigned comment added by AustinGOLDENEYE (talk • contribs) 18:26, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Removed trivia

I have removed:

• Members Josh Farro (guitar) and Hayley Williams (vocals) are currently in a relationship with each other.

I think it poses a WP:BLP issue, particularly when unsourced. Erechtheus 17:50, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Good. Because they aren't in a relationship, as said in some interviews.

tj moore is going out with hayley

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Who's tj moore?

About trivia

Paramour is not a French word, it seems to be an english word derived from the french "par amour", meaning "by love". The Free Dictonary

Fan Sites

Adding fan sites is not appropriate, in my opinion, because to include one would require you to include them all, and that would take up entirely too much room, not to mention call into question what qualifies as a "fan site."

Deletion

Seems to be written by a fan... 'the arrival of a truly enthralling new rock band .. debut is made indelible by the irresistible force of singer' liking the band is fine, but keep the article neutral.

I agree. Sounds like a press release to me.

User:Leemorrison here. Yeah I like this band and all but Wikipedia is a factual encyclopedia and it's all mega-biast. Needs a rewrite for sure.

Meh, I've cleaned it up rather shoddily. Chopped it mainly. Deal with the rest as yuou see fit, i know NOTHING about this band. HawkerTyphoon 20:06, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

User:guesswho9 then why do you care about posting,think before you post something stupid please because if you dont like the band i am fine everyone is entitled to their options but don't post information we dont need please.

New Picture?

Since there are better pictures of Paramore than the current one...a Yahoo search yields some nice results.

i uploaded a new picture yesterday which is very recent from their nme photoshoot where hayley is not blonde and someone took it down. the current picture is very nice but it is quite old. ther was nothing wrong with my one! Nemesis90 19:39, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

i think its time for a new picture?

I think we should add a more recent picture from a photoshoot. The one currently up is from at least from Spring 2006 if not earlier and Hunter Lamb isn't in Paramore anymore. If anybody has any objections feel free to comment. I'm going to try and find a good one and add it. Omg starburst 23:18, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Merging with Hayley Williams

I believe this article should be merged with the one for Hayley Williams. Outside of Paramore she has done nothing significant enough to merit her own article. The information contained in her article is nothing of true importance and is mostly redundant when compared with the main Paramore entry.Princeendo 16:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Redirected. Zimbardo Cookie Experiment 08:16, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Paramore is getting really big which means people are going to want to know more about the members. I think all the members should get their own page, even if it is just a stub.

Merging with Zac Farro

Please, someone merge the article on [Zac Farro] with the main entry for Paramore. It contains very little information, much less than even the [Hayley Williams] article. There is no reason to keep it that way. Fanship is one thing--this is quite another.71.207.222.200 01:19, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

That has been done. The Zac page was a two-sentence stub. I'm going to hold of on doing the Hayley one until I hear from a few more people or a few more days have gone by. Zimbardo Cookie Experiment 13:53, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

NO! None of the pages should be merged! If people need information and sources, they can easily go to Paramore's website where there are bios of each member!

Reading/Leeds Festivals

The sentence "The Reading and Leeds Festival brought them to the United Kingdom from October 5 to October 15, 2006, where they ended in London at The Mean Fiddler" needs clarification. The festivals take place August bank holiday (last weekend of August), so they were two months late if that's why they came over! Or does it mean that they booked a tour as a result of their performances at Reading/Leeds 2006? Nouse4aname 12:23, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Born For This

Hey, why is Born For This listed as a single? I love the song mucho, but it's not the first single off of RIOT! They'll release a clip of the first single on April 10 via purevolume, which I added to the page, so I think it should be deleted. Omg starburst 22:46, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

paramore on the drop on mtv2!

Album covers

Is there any reason Corvus cornix keeps on removing album covers from the discography section? I'm going to recreate the section with a table instead of <gallery> tags, since Paramore's album information is missing from the page. --JYi 10:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Pressure on The Sims 2

"Their song "Pressure" featured in the Sims 2 Playstation 2 edition."

It's also on the Xbox edition of the game.

Power pop

Paramore is powerful, which is what the power stands for, but they are not a power pop band, they can be powerful without being power pop just like they are emotional without being emo.

power pop is a genre of music, whilst they seem to have power pop influences, they are more pop-rock --Neon white 00:22, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Neon White; Paramore are not pop-rock. GET OVER IT YOU LOSER! Paramore do NOT sound like Kelly Clarkson, P!nk or any of that other sh!t. ok? Stop trying to convince everyone Paramore are pop-rock; your just a try hard. Get a life, if you can find one beyond your computer.

Sleep well & I hope you burn in hell. (:

It has citation. [The Edge] compares them to kelly clarkson. 'Basically Paramore is doing what Kelly Clarkson & dare I say Avril Lavigne are trying to do but coming across classy , edgy and down to earth' --Neon white 18:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

found a citation for power pop. Added. --Neon white 01:23, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

what are they then if they arent pop rock??

Band Member's Birthdays

Over the past few days I've been doing some drastic edits to this article in addition to trying to cite whatever I add into it. With that in mind, I cant seem to find a reliable source for the birthday's listed. Sites like Paramore.org list their b-days, but does anyone know of a more reliable source for this information? If nothing arises, I'll delete it as it doesn't seem that important to the article in the first place. -Lindsey8417 01:01, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

they're pretty much a pop-punk band --79.64.106.199 21:22, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Linking Dates

I have removed the wikilinks to dates, as I feel they are pointless. See the last point in MOS:DATE#Autoformatting and linking, which states that dates should only be linked to "if it is likely to deepen readers' understanding of a topic". Obviously linking to October 5 for example in the article will not deepen anyones understanding, and few people (if any) are likely to require such a link. I understand that when to link a date is quite a hotly debated topic, but I think this approach makes sense.Nouse4aname 11:06, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok ignore me. forgot about the preference formatting. will reintroduce links.Nouse4aname 11:15, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Lead vocals

Someone has been changing the lead singer to "Erika Jayne." I've changed it back to Hayley Williams, but whoever this person vandalizing this page needs to stop. Kittenwhiskers 21:31, 29 September 2007 (UTC)