User talk:Flowanda

Ron Littlefield

Flowanda, please try to be more careful with your edits. Old Money New South is not a self-published book, which is explained on the book's website. Also, if you're going to remove a citation, there may be reason to consider removing the content which required the citation. It's best to bring it up on the article's talk page. Qmax 21:24, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Qmax, thanks for the welcome and comments. Although I may be new to wikipedia, I consider myself a careful editor who learns and follows style guidelines, so I made edits only after reviewing the appropriate guidelines and doing research in and outside wikipedia.

As you know, the book's website alone is not independent verification of its own authenticity, and the only publisher listed/uncovered with additional research is the author and an organization listed in his name. Regardless, I removed the link because there was no connection between the book and this article; the link you added back contains content with no reference to this article or person.

The other link was removed because it also did not meet the external link guideliness that limit links to only those blogs/personal websites considered authoritative. Although listed as a "collection of essays criticial of the mayor", the web page consisted of entries and comments structured in a blog format by date using blogging software on a website of blogs that included "blogs" in its URL. The blog's writer is unidentified. Whether a blog or personal page, this website doesn't meet the wiki external link guidelines, so I removed the link, noting why in my edits.

I can post all the references I used for these edits, of course, or discuss the edits I've made elsewhere based on wiki sources I used as reference.Flowanda 03:51, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

University of Phoenix

You removed an external link from University of Phoenix with an edit summary indicating there was or is going to be discussion on the Talk page. However, I don't see that discussion. Can you please participate in the discussion about the article if you are going to leave edit summaries indicating as such? Thanks! --ElKevbo 14:29, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Signal Mountain

Sure, I can find time to take a picture this week. The difficulty with Signal Mountain is that it is a ridge (Walden Ridge, to be exact) and there is no "peak" to it. I'll see if I can find a nice angle. I'm thinking of a ridge off Cherokee that would provide a decent image of both that and a better one of downtown. As far as the article, if you're looking to start one on the history of Signal Mountain apart from the town, I suggest calling it History of Signal Mountain. No big deal there. Happy editing to you, contact me any time. Keegan^talk 18:27, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and the linked image is from Edward's Point on Signal, the mountain you see in the image is Raccoon Mountain. Keegan^talk 18:28, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

The short squatty one of the bunch, that's for sure...I have always suspected a conspiracy behind the bulldozing of Cameron Hill...those insecure Lookites couldn't stand any competition. Maybe the Conner Tollhouse or the W-Road might be other photo options, but Brady Point still seems to be the standard Signal "view"...along with the space house, of course. You might also try Stringer's Ridge or a safe pulloff along Corridor J (or the road up behind Red Bank School on Mtn Creek) that frames Signal against Raccoon. Flowanda 19:19, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Here are the pictures:

The Signal image is from the road running up by Red Bank Elementary, as you suggested. I also took a couple images from Komatsu and Suck Creek Road, but this was the best profile.

The Chattanooga image is from Stringer's Ridge. The one I uploaded is from Whitehall Road, but I also took a lesser quality image from Stringer's Ridge Road. I have included the Signal picture to the article. As well, I moved the previous Signal Mountain page to Signal Mountain (disambiguation). Signal Mountain will redirect there until a comprehensive article on Signal is created in its place. Happy editing to you! Keegan^talk 01:49, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Current Financial and Legal Issues

Maybe if you were educated you would recognize that you are not qualified to review legal/financial pages. Such matters are supported by public records. Nicholas.dk —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.174.79.236 (talk).

Affiliate marketing article clean-up

Hi Flowanda, thanks for your message. Your help is very welcome and most appreciated. I left you a note with some details about what was done already and what issues remained and need cleanup at my talk page. Welcome on board :). --roy<sac> ^Talk! .oOo. 03:21, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Covenant College

Flowanda - You undid a deletion I made to the Covenant College entry because you claimed it was done without discussion. If you take a look at the discussion page, you will note that the matter was discussed extensively, and after waiting a couple of months out of fairness, I made the revision that I proposed back in April. Hedgehogfox 04:50, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Destinatons2Discover.com links

Flowanda - destinations2discover.com is producing websites for Conventions and Visitor Bureaus. So they are indeed official websites (paid from CVB's (bedtaxes)) Please do not remove again. Thanks! Worldtraveler1 13:18, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

• Err no, good job on removing the links. Regardless if they are official or not it is still advertising. —— Eagle101^{Need help?} 13:44, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Anonymous contributions to certain articles.

Hi Flowanda. I saw that you have been involved in some article(s) that User:65.15.77.18 has edited (i.e. American Freedom Mortgage, Inc.). It seem that he may have added a significant amount cut and pasted from other copyright sources, if you get a chance to check any that would be great. Rich Farmbrough, 08:35 11 August 2007 (GMT).

I'm assuming this is based on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:65.15.77.18. Flowanda | Talk 00:15, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

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Who's Rob? >Radiant< 12:18, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

• I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. >Radiant< 08:02, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Re:Payday loan

Hi Flowanda. Thanks for the heads up - I didn't look back at the other edits that IP had made as the link looked reasonable. I'll keep a sharper eye out in the future. -- SiobhanHansa 01:35, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Your COIN Comment

Hi Flowanda, I was a bit surprised about your comments at the COI Noticeboard. It would be nice, if you could tell me why you believe that I am trying to claim exceptions and discounting edits I don't like. If you read this, you might change your opinion about me. I hope.

1. Quote: "trying to beat a fellow editor to death over a minor article" this was not my choice, somebody else made that choice. I don't let anybody get away who is doing something wrong, only because that would be more convenient. Others contacted me outside of Wikipedia and stated their opinion about the behavior of this editor who "I am trying to beat to death". It seems that he did things the way we did in case of the eComXpo article before that, but nobody spend the time to go up against him to prevent this behavior to be rewarded. You can check out stuff by yourself. I already did the leg work which took me quite some time, but I felt like somebody had to do it. See this. Everything put in chronological order and proven with links to diffs. You can verify everything yourself.
2. Regarding the Affiliate marketing article do you honestly belief that simply deleting 75% of the articles content would make it a better article? That was your proposal, if you support the actions that were taken by a single editor against the opinion of dozens of others in the case of the eComXpo article. On top of that, do it after a failed AfD attempt where only you and one other editor pledge for the deletion while 8 others disagree and proof your arguments being invalid and while the deletion review that you started yourself , acknowledges the decision of the AfD. Only you and the other editor are for overthrowing the decision, while 9 other editors who were not even part of the AfD reject your attempt (with exception of one, the editor who proposed the AfD and now votes to keep it after the debate). Ignore any editors who wanted to help to improve the article after seeing the DRV discussion and make them mad. Ignore their attempts to come to a consensus first and then seek for ratification of your edits and actions afterwards, while pretending to be the nice and fair editor who only wants to help to make Wikipedia a better place. Request mediation where you pull your friend in and then have your friend not accept the mediation request. Hey you tried, didn't you. To prevent other editors to stop you from what you are doing, especially the one that argues the strongest against you, accuse them of something strong enough to discount any of their edits. Sounds bad, doesn't it? I would be surprised if you do anything else but object and state that you would never do something like this. I would believe you.
3. I don't know, but I am not the person who lets that happen and let you get away with it. I stated multiple times that I don't want to spend time on this and made repeatedly attempts to end this. I offered a compromise, a real compromise, but it was rejected. This is the short version of the story. If you interpret the events differently, please let me know. This can not be done in 5 minutes and the one thing somebody is counting on and willing to create as much noise and distractions as possible to keep it that way. --roy<sac> ^Talk! .oOo. 10:29, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Bose & Reliable Sources

I take issue with your comment, "I like my ancient 301s, but I don't think they are contributing to world peace." How do you know these are not contributing to world peace? What's your source for this unjustified attack on Bose's contribution to humanity?

More seriously, thanks for the voice of balance. Mattnad 16:17, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

omibose, you're right. Since I cannot find a reliable source to reference the above statement, we must all then accept that my 301s are, indeed, responsible for world peace. Well, that changes everything, especially my to-do list for next week. Thanks for the heads up. Flowanda | Talk 21:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

To see what we're dealing with with UKPhoenix79, here's an exchange regarding your edit to the article, after he changed it: User_talk:UKPhoenix79#Bose. Read down a little. Mattnad 15:05, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but we were all right. And '79 was the year my speakers were born. Flowanda | Talk 17:22, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

revert to payday loan?

What is the problem with my changes to payday loan? The ones that you reverted are

• the addition of an (correct, verifiable) reference, to replace a ;
• a minor change in wording
• the addition of a paragraph break, with no change to the content; and
• a fix to a misformatted reference.

I do not see how these would be controversial. Please let me know. 24.91.134.90 22:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I see that you also reverted a paragraph of text that I wrote. Please let me know if you see any problem, or mark unverified assertions, rather than just reverting. Thanks. 24.91.134.90 22:20, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Please see the article's talk page. Flowanda | Talk 04:12, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

A reply to your question

The COI thread is the oldest thing on ANI and really deserved to be archived, so I'll answer your question here. I'd rather know what Duremine offers and I'd rather the offer were posted in a place where uninvolved volunteers can watchlist and perform basic management. When the eBay thing first came up for discussion at David Gerard's blog and the Wiki.en mailing list a few weeks ago it turned out to be quite difficult to contact the - erm - "vendor." If it helps any to say this, I also write a column for the online publication Search Engine Land where I inform the business community about how to work within Wikipedia's site standards. Durova^Charge! 03:56, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

3RR warning

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Covenant College. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. --ElKevbo 03:35, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Re:Payday Loan

I will look into to it soon. --Thε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 20:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Stanford Shopping Center

Thanks for doing the tidy up on the SSC page. One question, what was the reason for removing the item about the Simon PG ownership of the buildings, as well as dropping the link to the company's WP entry? JXM 01:48, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I moved the first tagged internal link to the first graph and only removed the tags around the second reference since the article was short. Does that work? I had removed a couple of paragraphs of brochure copy and artists' references since they were all (except for one, and it was incorrect) redlinked. I also didn't do a search on the artists, so it might be a better idea to move that graph to the talk page so if future articles are added, the info can be easily moved back into the main page...what do you think? Flowanda | Talk 18:01, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Ah, okay. NM - my bad. I missed the fact that y'd relocated the link to Simon PG to the first paragraph. Removing the rest of the material is fine with me. JXM 02:59, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

"removed inaccurate statement and source-please see talk page for rational"

I am eagerly awaiting your explanation about how the sentence, which has a source which is still active, is inaccurate. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 22:05, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Amazon Prime - "Removed excessive details/costs for similar programs on single product"

Don't you think that your sentence is both a bit confusing? "Free shipping for a fee"->do you say it like that in English? I'm not native speaker, but it sure sounds odd to me. If there's a fee you can't call it free. Additionally, I agree that not all this small info about the fees is needed, but informationen shared by all Prime services should still be in there. Just to give some examples:

• Priority 1-day-shipping to most parts of the country
• Being able to share Prime with members of the own household

Do you agree that this information is relevant enough to be on Wikipedia, or do you think otherwise and why? --Natanji 19:26, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I kinda went overboard on both the edit summary AND the edits...thanks for the nice note. :) I was trying to follow guidelines about including pricing details from WP:NOT#DIR and keep to a general description of the program overall. I do think my edits make sense -- customers do pay a yearly fee for a program that revolves around free or discounted shipping on individual orders. The fact that everyone in a single household can take advantage of it comes across as marketing speak instead of a true benefit...don't you think everyone is going to take advantage of it anyway? And really, every single marketing program and service a company offers doesn't deserve mention, much less an entire section, but Amazon has somehow been able to spin dozens of articles about every single aspect of its company, no matter how notable or interesting. Flowanda | Talk 20:46, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

True. I still thought the part about priority shipping is relevant enough for Wikipedia, because that's the main reason why people are gonna get Prime. Why? Well, I never ever payed any shipment cost on Amazon yet even like this because it was always over €20 or just books, which are free shipping anyway. I hope like this it's okay. Any objections? --Natanji 17:26, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		I, Durova, award The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar to Flowanda for proactive work to stop misuse of Wikipedia for commercial purposes before it happens. DurovaCharge! 10:08, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

George Orwel

Why delete the references to Amazon book and the user page of the original author of the disputed content? Nshuks7 (talk) 17:47, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

The page looks like original research to me, and we don't cite Wikipedia articles. We also have to keep WP:BLP in mind. I've started a discussion on the article talk page. Flowanda | Talk 18:04, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Snowflake Schema

Invite you to spot places in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowflake_schema article that could be improved.Nshuks7 (talk) 08:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Landmark Education page

I invite you to help finish editing the refs on that page. I need a hand with something else as well, if you can. Pax Arcane (talk) 02:26, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I was just there looking at recent edits. The edits I made this weekend focused just on moving external links from the main article into citations in the reference section. Although I thoroughly enjoyed reading the article (and what I read from the external link/citations), I still feel I know very little about Erhard from the Wikipedia article itself. The entire first paragraph, for instance, is totally incomprehensible to me -- it just seems like a mess of jargon/corporate/legal/creepy cult speak, which might be fine for the corporate/legal/baptized types, but does nothing for the rest of us. Flowanda | Talk 06:53, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Tracing IPs to PR firms

Hi Flowanda,

Can you tell me how you traced http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/209.183.197.163 to Dezenhall Resources (17 May 2007)? I am doing research on anon. IPs, but sites such as ARIN do not give me information this specific. Are you using an admin tool? Is there any way for me to use this tool?

Thanks, Cyrusc (talk) 21:43, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

• I got it figured out... Please disregard the above. Cyrusc (talk) 19:47, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Prentice

Thanks for helping improve the Prentice article. I have restored your edits and added a couple of citations. Sufferingfools had removed your edit and left what I think is misleading information (perhaps inadvertently). Keep up the good work! Benzocane (talk) 00:20, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

eHow

Hi Flowanda,

I saw that you removed eHow's Writer Compensation Program reference from the eHow Article Page. I'm actually a rep from eHow, and I was wondering if it was okay to make at least two references in the article about the Writer Compensation Program? One, in the body of the text and the other in the external link portion of the page. Thanks.