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:::I read the article. I also read where it was posted at [[John Gore (theatre producer)]]. It is clear that they are all essentially the same text, which borrows from Gore's website. We cannot host other people's work unless they themselves put it here.—<font color="blue">Ryūlóng</font> (<font color="gold">竜龍</font>) 08:19, 3 February 2008 (UTC) |
:::I read the article. I also read where it was posted at [[John Gore (theatre producer)]]. It is clear that they are all essentially the same text, which borrows from Gore's website. We cannot host other people's work unless they themselves put it here.—<font color="blue">Ryūlóng</font> (<font color="gold">竜龍</font>) 08:19, 3 February 2008 (UTC) |
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::::Once again, and with respect, the above comment is simply, empirically not true. The article you deleted was written and posted after the Live Nation announcement and consisted almost exclusvely of material related to that announcement drawn from published reports and using the pblicly available photo of Gore none of which was in his website when I reviewed it today. Other material, also not from Gore's site, was then added, related to his early producing career and drawn from other outside sources although historical information is historical information. I think you are confused about what it was you deleted and may be referring to some other, perhaps earlier version of the John Gore page. Are you using some kind of autobot to do this work? [[User:Benfeing|Benfeing]] <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|comment]] was added at 08:54, 3 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
::::Once again, and with respect, the above comment is simply, empirically not true. The article you deleted was written and posted after the Live Nation announcement and consisted almost exclusvely of material related to that announcement drawn from published reports and using the pblicly available photo of Gore none of which was in his website when I reviewed it today. Other material, also not from Gore's site, was then added, related to his early producing career and drawn from other outside sources although historical information is historical information. I think you are confused about what it was you deleted and may be referring to some other, perhaps earlier version of the John Gore page. Are you using some kind of autobot to do this work? [[User:Benfeing|Benfeing]] <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|comment]] was added at 08:54, 3 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:::::I deleted an article about a theater producer that I believed did not assert the notability of its subject and could be deleted. This article had also been deleted on prior occasions because it resembled [http://johngore.com/ his website]. I know the man exists, but the article did not say why Wikipedia should host a biography on him.—<font color="blue">Ryūlóng</font> (<font color="gold">竜龍</font>) 09:04, 3 February 2008 (UTC) |
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John Gore (theater producer)
You deleted the article John Gore (theater producer) along with associated materials. Most of the material was provided by the original authors, including the photographs. You may be unfamiliar with the live theater, I would not be aurprised as there are few people who folow the business aspects of that industry. In acquiring Live Nation's legitimate theater assets and divisions, Gore has become the most important proucer on Broadway and the most important force in the creation and touring of first class Broadway musicals. His company, Key Brand, now controls touring rights to "Wicked," "The Producers," "The Lion King" and many others. Previous attempts to post an article on Gore, before the acquisition was announced, were similarly deleted, in my mind without rationale. It was unfortunate as the article was intended to serve as a background resource for journalists who would be reporting on the deal when it was announced a few weeks later. As it was, an invaluable source was innapropriately deleted. The photos and images contained in the article are all in the public domain, having been issued originally for public domain useage or having been uploaded by the creators, including in one case by Gore himself. While the live theater may be of little interest to you, and therefore you see its behind the scenes players as unimportant, I would suggest otherwise. Key Brand is now partners with performing arts institutions in some 42 cities whose boards and whose city managers have a keen interest in knowing more about the people with whom they are now partners. What you have here is a biography of a young man on the rise. I would ask you to restore the article.Benfeing —Preceding comment was added at 02:05, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- If you can give sources other than the main website of the company to show that the man is notable and that the photographs of the man are available under a free image copyright (that the photographer has given up all copyright), then the article and image can stay. As the article appears, it did not satisfy WP:BIO and was deletable under WP:CSD#A7.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:13, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- The sources cited were the New York Times and Stage magazine (UK). I have visited Gore's website and ther is no overlap other than a mention of his early career which is appropriate in a biography. None of the images in the article come from Gore's website. The photo of Gore was posted to Wikipedia by Key Brand itself and released to the public domain as part of the announcement. This transaction by itself makes Gore the most powerful voice in Broadway Theater and merits this article just as the appointment of the CEO of GE would in another industry. No disrespect intended, but I don't get the impression you know much about the business of live theater. perhaps it would be prudent to defer to The New York Times and Variety on this topic. Benfeing
- I read the article. I also read where it was posted at John Gore (theatre producer). It is clear that they are all essentially the same text, which borrows from Gore's website. We cannot host other people's work unless they themselves put it here.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:19, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- Once again, and with respect, the above comment is simply, empirically not true. The article you deleted was written and posted after the Live Nation announcement and consisted almost exclusvely of material related to that announcement drawn from published reports and using the pblicly available photo of Gore none of which was in his website when I reviewed it today. Other material, also not from Gore's site, was then added, related to his early producing career and drawn from other outside sources although historical information is historical information. I think you are confused about what it was you deleted and may be referring to some other, perhaps earlier version of the John Gore page. Are you using some kind of autobot to do this work? Benfeing —Preceding comment was added at 08:54, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- I deleted an article about a theater producer that I believed did not assert the notability of its subject and could be deleted. This article had also been deleted on prior occasions because it resembled his website. I know the man exists, but the article did not say why Wikipedia should host a biography on him.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 09:04, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- Once again, and with respect, the above comment is simply, empirically not true. The article you deleted was written and posted after the Live Nation announcement and consisted almost exclusvely of material related to that announcement drawn from published reports and using the pblicly available photo of Gore none of which was in his website when I reviewed it today. Other material, also not from Gore's site, was then added, related to his early producing career and drawn from other outside sources although historical information is historical information. I think you are confused about what it was you deleted and may be referring to some other, perhaps earlier version of the John Gore page. Are you using some kind of autobot to do this work? Benfeing —Preceding comment was added at 08:54, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- I read the article. I also read where it was posted at John Gore (theatre producer). It is clear that they are all essentially the same text, which borrows from Gore's website. We cannot host other people's work unless they themselves put it here.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:19, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- The sources cited were the New York Times and Stage magazine (UK). I have visited Gore's website and ther is no overlap other than a mention of his early career which is appropriate in a biography. None of the images in the article come from Gore's website. The photo of Gore was posted to Wikipedia by Key Brand itself and released to the public domain as part of the announcement. This transaction by itself makes Gore the most powerful voice in Broadway Theater and merits this article just as the appointment of the CEO of GE would in another industry. No disrespect intended, but I don't get the impression you know much about the business of live theater. perhaps it would be prudent to defer to The New York Times and Variety on this topic. Benfeing
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There is a request for unprotection of this article at RFPP, but I saw you had requested contact with you before unprotecting. Hence, I leave this note. :) Jmlk17 02:09, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:11, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
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Sorry, references this: [1] --BETA 07:30, 3 February 2008 (UTC)