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She was not born in Austalia. Just like an Italian-Australian she is a Jewish-Australian. Although the Jews did not have a homeland until 1948 the book calls her a Jewish-Australian. This is standard convention. She practiced her faith and saw herself as a member of the Jewish people and an Australian. You could say she is a Polish-Australian as her family was Polish and she would have held that nationality at birth. But most Jews from Poland at that time and Lillian herself called themselves Jewish australians ( p.2 of the book).[[User:GaryGazza|GaryGazza]] ([[User talk:GaryGazza|talk]]) 16:33, 4 March 2008 (UTC) |
She was not born in Austalia. Just like an Italian-Australian she is a Jewish-Australian. Although the Jews did not have a homeland until 1948 the book calls her a Jewish-Australian. This is standard convention. She practiced her faith and saw herself as a member of the Jewish people and an Australian. You could say she is a Polish-Australian as her family was Polish and she would have held that nationality at birth. But most Jews from Poland at that time and Lillian herself called themselves Jewish australians ( p.2 of the book).[[User:GaryGazza|GaryGazza]] ([[User talk:GaryGazza|talk]]) 16:33, 4 March 2008 (UTC) |
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I received an email concerning this entry. I have edited it to show the correct version like in the book mentioned above. [[User:Isaccnation|Isaccnation]] ([[User talk:Isaccnation|talk]]) 13:07, 6 March 2008 (UTC) |
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moved this paragraph from article until it is npoved. actually it seems difficult to apply a npov to this (talk about a string of peacock terms!), without cutting it entirely. clarkk 09:15, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Although short and always sensitive about her weight, Roxon was beautiful, vivacious, witty, erudite, charming, outgoing, fearlessly ambitious and extremely intelligent, and she rapidly developed into a gifted writer.
New book coming out about her:
LILLIAN ROXON By Robert Milliken on Thunder’s Mouth Press
As per timeshift, all unsources Jewish material was removed. GaryGazza (talk) 22:32, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- The lead section of this article is a dog's breakfast - giving two different birthplaces and suggesting they fled Nazism in Poland even though they had moved to Italy years before. I'm assuming they subsequently moved back to Poland before leaving for Australia, but this is contradicted by the lead. Also suggests that a 5-year-old girl suggested the family's new name, which seems unlikely at best - my own family background is not altogether dissimilar and I know how patriarchal the culture is. Does someone with more background knowledge care to help resolve some of the conflicts here? Orderinchaos 22:32, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
I have read the reference book and this information is confirmed. Please see pages 1 - 10 whcih explain the questions you have. Please provide a source for your problems with the book. Do not edit a page if you have not read the sources. GaryGazza (talk) 23:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Repetition of religion
There is no need to mention Lillian Roxon's religion twice in the first three sentences, and particularly no need to mention it in the opening sentence. Her notability is completely unrelated to her religion - describing her as a Jewish author or Jewish journalist implies she wrote either about Judaism or from an explicitly Jewish perspective. Neither of these is true.
The page protection will certainly prevent an edit war over this point but also prevents any other improvements to the article.
I would like to consensus for leaving the religion reference as it is in the current version - that is, mentioned in the third sentence in the context of her family fleeing Europe and not elsewhere. Any other views? Euryalus (talk) 19:43, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
She was not born in Austalia. Just like an Italian-Australian she is a Jewish-Australian. Although the Jews did not have a homeland until 1948 the book calls her a Jewish-Australian. This is standard convention. She practiced her faith and saw herself as a member of the Jewish people and an Australian. You could say she is a Polish-Australian as her family was Polish and she would have held that nationality at birth. But most Jews from Poland at that time and Lillian herself called themselves Jewish australians ( p.2 of the book).GaryGazza (talk) 16:33, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
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I received an email concerning this entry. I have edited it to show the correct version like in the book mentioned above. Isaccnation (talk) 13:07, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
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