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Thanks for the barnstar. I enjoy doing copyediting for members of the project, so I try to help out with any articles that are about to be nominated for GA. I'll do my best to make sure I go over the other two before the end of the week. Best wishes, and good luck with the nomination. I'm fairly confident that it will pass once a few minor changes are made. GaryColemanFan (talk) 22:07, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I made the change for #9, as I didn't explain it well and it was a minor thing. As for #6, it seems strange that Porter and Hardy went from being rivals to being teammates with no explanation. Did they get along as teammates, or was this just WWE pairing up people who didn't like each other once again? GaryColemanFan (talk) 00:06, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Another thing I wanted to mention is that the source you gave for the Booker-Cena match in the Aftermath section doesn't support the statement. The source only discusses what happened after the match, and it doesn't mention the interference or the disqualification. I've been looking for a source, but I'm not really sure where to find reliable sources for recent matches. GaryColemanFan (talk) 00:26, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You've done a great job with the fixes for SummerSlam. Perhaps for #6, an explanation could be worked into the text ("Despite their rivalry, WWE paired up Hardy and MVP, who defeated Deuce 'N Domino to retain the WWE Tag Team Championship the following month at Unforgiven."). GaryColemanFan (talk) 01:47, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What about adding a paragraph to summarize the Aftermath? That way, the lead would truly summarize the entire article. It could be something like:
Several of the existing feuds carried on after the event. Notably, CM Punk continued to face John Morrison, defeating him for the ECW Championship the following month. The day after SummerSlam, Orton interfered in a match between Cena and King Booker and intensified the feud by attacking Cena's father. Khali and Batista faced each other at Unforgiven, the following pay-per-view, as part of a triple threat match; Batista was victorious in this match and won the World Heavyweight Championship.
Not a problem. Like I said, I am more than willing to help when I have time. I sometimes worry that people take what I say the wrong way, so I hope that my suggestions have come across as constructive feedback rather than criticism. GaryColemanFan (talk) 02:18, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that's definitely the most frustrating part of the system. I just had an article that I wrote make it into the list of the "Five oldest unreviewed nominations" today. I did my first GA review today, and I'm trying to encourage other editors to do the same so that we can cut down on the backlog in the "Sports and recreation" list. And you never know...the first article I nominated for GA was reviewed within a couple of hours. GaryColemanFan (talk) 03:13, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that you originally mentioned your intention to nominate the article last Saturday, so tomorrow should be fine. I'll also admit to a little impatience on my part, as I gave my notice to nominate WrestleMania X last Friday, but I want you guys to nominate SummerSlam, Unforgiven and No Way Out first, as I've already got SummerSlam (1994), Jos LeDuc and Ion Croitoru nominated. (That's impatience at waiting for your one week to end, not impatience at any of you, but it's good to stick to the policy, as it's been working well so far.) Let's hope the review process can speed up a bit, though. As I mentioned, it would be great if anyone from The Kliq could find time to review a "Sports and recreation" article, as it would speed things up for us. I just finished reviewing an article, and I found the process to be very educational. Anyhow, best wishes for SummerSlam. GaryColemanFan (talk) 04:32, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I can look SummerSlam 2004 over, but it might take a couple of days before I'm able to get to it. Have you given notice on the WP:PW talk page for it? I've already promised Zenlax that I would look over Vengeance 2005 next, and Truco asked me to copyedit No Way Out 2004. I've also got an article that I'm in the middle of writing, and I haven't gotten to it in a couple of days now. Between Pre-GA reviews and completing a GA review, I'm a little burnt out and I might need to take a day off before committing to doing much more right away. Like I said, I'm happy to help and I think it's great that project members are getting articles ready to nominate. I will get to it soon, though. GaryColemanFan (talk) 05:45, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
To avoid another round of voting, please go back to The Kliq's talk page and bold a second PPV you would not like to do. After this we will have three nominations remaining. Thanks! iMatthew200811:56, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, very badly. But it's ok. I want to work on something everyone agrees on. My top choice of the ones left is SummerSlam 2005. iMatthew200821:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, sorry about that. I didn't see it. Hey, is the Chavo and Rey thing really notable? Cause, I just had a test and the kilobytes went from 47 to 44. -- ThinkBlue (HitBLUE)01:40, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I tried the test for a reason. Did Gary say to expand the lead more? Hey, now I'm telling you what Truco told me. You go too much into detail in the matches. -- ThinkBlue (HitBLUE)01:48, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have no idea how to nominated things for AfD, so i thought I'd ask you. Mr. All-Powerful Admin! ;) OVW Television Champion is the exact same as OVW Television Championship, and from what I can tell, the "OVW Television Champion" one was copied and pasted from the Championship article. Without the editor even going into the edit window. *Sigh* Anyway, thought I'd let ya know, so you could flex those admin muscles. I think you could probably "speedy delete" this, but I'll leave it up to you. Peace, and happy editing! ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 04:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Everything looks great. Though, the Cena and Orton aftermath seems quite odd; you write that Orton interfered in a match involving Cena and Booker T, in which Cena won. Where exactly was Cena's father? Was he in the ring with Cena? It might become a confusion statement to the reader. But overall, it looks fantastic. ZenlaxTCS21:01, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I think SummerSlam will be a great addition to the Good article category. It would, however, be better if it became Feature article. ZenlaxTCS21:25, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please do. I wouldn't want you to listen to my message and have SummerSlam fail Feature article, because of my reasoning. Do notify me if you either go with Good article or Feature article so I can help you in anyway. ZenlaxTCS18:04, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. I was reading some reports and it doesn't seem that Edge and Kane had a big feud. So, just stay with the first two feuds. Unless, you want to add it. ZenlaxTCS20:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I trust your judgment. Is there anything that you would like for me to do? Only reason I ask, I have nothing to work on. ZenlaxTCS20:13, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Can you undelete Jeroen van Veen (pianist) please?
I've been editing wikipedia since 2005, but haven't encountered the following oddity yet. I split up a page describing two equally notable and googlable people with the same name (Jeroen van Veen). These unrelated people existed together on that same page for a year, having nothing in common but the same name. After my split, and my edit summary said where the text came from, a user (who by now has apologized for it) tagged one page for speedy deletion within a minute. I don't know the pianist, but he is prize winning and made dozens of recordings, and is also a composer, producer, artistic director, etc., while the copied text contained 5 links to websites describing his activities. I mentioned this on the talk page and removed the tag, as the speedy deletion tag seemed without merit and one could consider it even vandalism. Nevertheless, within a few more minutes you went ahead and deleted the page based on the unspecified tag alone. How come? Feels like guilty-unless-proven-innocent followed by-shoot-before-you-ask to me. A very counterproductive procedure. Could you revert the delete please? Afasmit (talk) 00:17, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is it good for it to be in the lead? I mean you repeat alot of the aftermath in the lead and then in the aftermath section, but if its good for the article then leave it. --TrUCo-X22:17, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I recommend you first make sure it passes GA, because Lex, tried to nominate New Year's Revolution (2007) for FA before nominating if for GA, and it failed. Also I think if I nominated NWO 04 straight to FA, It would have failed, look at the nom page now, one objection and then no more responses. Take it to GA, then FA.TrUCo-X22:44, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I dont know if am correct, but on WWE.com, per here, it says "Monday Night Raw’s special three-hour episode celebrating its 15th anniversary drew an incredible 4.4 rating last Monday night on USA Network", it was a 4.4, and in the older version (Before I changed it), it says 4.1, and according to WWE its 4.4, and isnt WWE.com really the most reliable source there can be? NimiTize02:20, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with the idea that Tomko turning back heel and rejoining the Angle Alliance is all of a sudden non-notable in his article. If this turn and his entire time in the Alliance from that point on is brushed out of his article, someone could read up on it a year or so from now and think Tomko's character stayed independent when in fact he cemented a position in what "was at the time" (as the language will be) the most powerful heel stable in TNA. The articles on Christian's Coalition, the Angle Alliance, and the tag team of A.J. Styles and Tomko certainly haven't seen that information reverted ten thousand times on the personally-I-think-its-application-here-is-ridiculous basis of "non-notability". So how can that be the case on the article for Travis Tomko himself? 172.168.107.202 (talk) 00:30, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
For your excellent contributions to Wiki and for stopping vandalism from over exceeding, I award you The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar. SexySeaShark17:28, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Originial research
The exact some content in a neater matter is original research? Well, ok...if you want an article to look like a 6-year-old typed it, no hair off my ass. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tvp119 (talk • contribs) 20:46, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A few Announcements
Cross posted to all Kliq members
As you may or may not have noticed on The Kliq's talk page, I have added two temporary sections. In "Last Minute Nominations," you are free to add any pay-per-view nominations that you have recently thought of or forgot about earlier. If you have any, please add them. If you do not, please just write none, in that section, so we know that you've seen it at least. Also, in "Bring 'Em Backs," you can choose one pay-per-view that has been voted out, and bring it back into the running. All you have to do it choose the pay-per-view and add it to the "Bring 'Em Backs" section. If you would not like to bring back any pay-per-view, please again, write none, so we know you've seen it. Cheers! iMatthew200821:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
So I should go ahead and create it? Can you do some copy-editing for NWO 2004, as requested in its FA nomination, I am not to good with that, that's if you are able to do so.TrUCo-X22:50, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. Cause, right now I don't think I can nominate it, cause of school and stuff. But, by next month, I'll have free time. Man, was high school hard for you? -- ThinkBlue (HitBLUE)01:38, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe he might listen to you since you are an admin, but there is an issue at Image:WrestleManiaXXIVposter.JPG. The uploader keeps removing the tag I placed. The problem is he is trying to say he can release the image under the GNU license (basically releasing it into the public domain) even though the image is copyrighted by WWE but he keeps removing the disputed license tag I placed. TJSpyke23:36, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wow is this IP wrong, anyway, the hardcore title list is done. You think we should nominate it for FL, or first see what the WP:PW community says?--TrUCo-X00:33, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I have alerted the WP:PW community, should I wait for responses, or should I go ahead and nominate it now?--TrUCo-X01:00, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If there are some things to be done with during its nomination and if you fix them and it passes then you can display, if not, we can always work on another list.--TrUCo-X01:06, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I will not be available much today. I have to go now, because I hae a rehearsal for the next four hours. Then I'll be home for about 4 or 5 hours, then I'm going out for the night. So, I'll be on as much as I can in those 4-5 hours I'm home. iMatthew200813:40, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, just making sure you know that this isn't going to be The Kliq's last project. It's D.M.N. and bulletproof's last project with us. iMatthew200818:23, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"Last Minute Nominations" and "Bring 'Em Backs" have closed. Please go back to the Kliq page and vote for the next round. P.S. I heard Batista was removed from the roster page, and was released. iMatthew200818:45, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I recommended that we have fifteen questions, and the following fifteen users answer one questions each: Me, You, Truco, Blue, Nici, Zenlax, Hybrid, Chronic, Nikki, Alex, D.M.N, Gavyn Sykes, Naha, GCF, and TJ Spyke, Now that I think about it, it is way too much for one interview. lol. iMatthew200812:35, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You cannot just copy and paste what I gave you back onto the article space. I told you to signify his importance, and you still haven't done that. I will give you 7 days to either improve the article, or signify why he is important. If you cannot expand the article any further or fail to signify his importance, I will once again delete it per CSD A7. Sorry for saying "signify his importance" so many times. --Cheers, LAX11:45, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please read before you write. I did not just copy and paste, but added two third-party external links. The text should've been sufficient because it showed that he is notable according to the current notability guidelines, having released two or more albums on a major label (point 5) and having won in a major music competition (point 9). Still, I've added some text on his international concerts and recitals and recording activity. He is also likely "the most prominent representative of minimal music" in his city (Utrecht) (point 7) and possibly in his country. I should not be forced to write and defend a bio when simply splitting up an article describing two people. Afasmit (talk) 00:36, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for me being inactive for a long time am not slacking off or anything, my bro was in a car injury and I was inactive for a while, sitting at the doctors worry for my brother. I will be active around 3-6 pm Monday-Thursday and Friday I'll be active all day and more. Sorry for this. NimiTize23:37, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not to sound like a dick, but are you ever going to complete the AM for RAW for WrestleMania XIX? Or do you want me to do it?--TrUCo-X18:35, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
