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Well I disagree because I've been expanding the TNA PPVS and with the new archives I have found on Good sourced wrestling sites soon there will be many more TNA PPVs with their own articles. Also almost every ppv this year in TNA has it's own page. There are a grand total of 23 TNA PPVs that are made into one page. There are only 49 ppvs under TNA braner. Almost half. Soon there will be more than half. I'm right now working Destination X (2008), Lockdown (2008), Sacrifice (2008), Slammiversary (2008) and Victory Road (2008). Soon I'll be working on Against All Odds 2008, Final Resolution 2008, Turning Point 2007, Genesis 2007, and Bound for Glory (2007). I feel since TNA PPVs are being expanded these are useful in the same way as WWE's. Now you said to keep The Lockdown Template as well as Slammiversary and Bound for Glory. Well the Lockdown Template was deleted by him. Does this mean it is alright to recreate it?--WillC00:27, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. I'll take a look. I've started to work on Lockdown 08 the most, it is in my Sandbox. I haven't placed many references and I haven't wrote the rest of the Event section yet but it seems okay. I've also started on Sacrifice 08 and it is in my other Sandbox. I have been meaning to work on Destination X 08 but just haven't. Been busy with Lockdown since I want that at GA status. I guess I'll go make Template:Lockdown again. Just to be clear, since I'm slow, are any of the TNA PPV templates to be deleted?--WillC01:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I understand. Good luck on the articles. If you need any sources for iMPACT! results or PPV results I have probably near 20 sites that have that sort of info. That I think is reliable. I found them in other articles on here.--WillC01:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I looked at Slammiversary in your sandbox. It is good. Reads okay. You've done better than I would have. I didn't see any mistakes.--WillC20:36, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Can you block this account? He has been adding unverified information continuesly into the Leon White article for a while now without citing a reference of where he got his information. I confronted him several times about adding a source of a name he keeps adding in the article, he replied none of them are sourced and readd the name back, I reverted and stated they indeed had a source, which I gave him the link to and his response was nothing but a personal attack for actually having a reference for the other names, and then proceeded to readd the unverified information. I'm not here as much, so I don't have the time to mess around with this person. Thank you, — Moeε02:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't notice this before, but apparently this new account also has a history of vandalism to articles. You can take that for what it's worth. — Moeε02:15, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, I've re-written "half" of the Event, but don't worry, I'll continue working on it. ;) Anyways, are you gonna write the Undertaker/Khali/Big Show feud? -- ThinkBlue (HitBLUE)01:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I noticed that your gonna be gone in a couple of days. ;) Anyways, um yeah I think we should work on Armageddon and then maybe the other articles we started and never finished. ;) -- ThinkBlue (HitBLUE)20:07, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, but I nominated the above article for GA, because Nikki told me to nominate articles that have been on the waiting list for over a week if I addressed concerns raised by reviewers, and this one was on the WL for over a week, like I said before, I will not take credit for the articles.--SRX--LatinoHeat23:14, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ouch that hurts.lol But ok, I wont, I wont do that again, it's just that so many of them were on the waiting list for about a month.--SRX--LatinoHeat02:34, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just so I don't screw up. I'm near done with Lockdown now. I have all the references in but a few. Now I'm placing pictures. I found a few pictures from the event and I was wondering if you could tell me if they're okay. here--WillC22:49, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
TNA PPV templates were deleted.
All the templates were deleted including the Lockdown, Bound for Glory, and Slammiversary templates. What do I do? Also I had a link to them in the TNA PPV template. Gave a good reason on why they shouldn't have been deleted. This is starting to piss me off since they were suppose to be waiting 7 days before being deleted.--WillC08:48, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
To new and even more interesting projects, of course!
As announced in the newsletter, I've been preparing to co-coordinate a large collaboration/competition called Around the World. It was going to be run at the Awards Center, but since that no longer exists, the collaboration will be hosted somewhere else.
Around the World will begin July 15th as planned - it's location will be announced soon.
It'll be a blast. In the competition, participants will be helping to develop over 200 pages (drafts, which will be moved to article space once they are ready), using advanced tools to edit every single one of them!
This is going to be interesting.
And the event shall have awards which are being created specifically for it as we speak!
If you would like me to keep you informed of this and other interesting collaborations I'll be working on and/or organizing in the future, please drop me a note on my talk page, and I'll be happy to keep you in the know.
If everything goes according to plan, it will begin on July 15th.
The event is being co-sponsored by Wikiproject Lists of basic topics and WikiProject Geography, and participants will be "traveling" all around "the World" visiting each country online (here on Wikipedia and perhaps beyond) as they apply advanced wiki-tools to improve pieces of the profiles of each and every country on Earth!. Each pass through these pages is a "trip around the World..."
Each page presents essential information on each country in a topic outline format, for ease of overviewing and navigating. Most of the topics presented are linkified, which turns these pages into a hypertextual map to material about each country on Wikipedia. When completed, they shall all become part of Wikipedia's contents system.
The pages share a standard format, with the information on each country presented in the same general order. So rather than getting stuck on a single country trying to complete it, each participant works on all 200+ political entities, completing a single data item or detail across all of the pages!
For this they use advanced tools like WP:AWB, Linky, etc. It goes fast, and since others are doing this at the same time, it makes "the World" feel like a beehive, and the participants are its bees. :) The energy is contagious.
And since you are moving from country to country, the tasks make it feel like you are traveling around the world, and you get to learn a little about every country as you do so.
This approach also allows for greater efficiency, because by the time you've done 30 or so of a particular item, you've figured out how to finish it faster and more effectively (such as where to find the data or how to make adjustments), and this specialization speeds up development - but more importantly it reduces errors.
The tasks are varied, which adds even more variety to the project. Some tasks are look-ups-and-fill-ins, some are copy and paste, some are image hunts, some are maintenance adjustments, some are link fixing, some are blue-linking (creating an underlying redirect so a link turns blue), some are fact checking, etc.
For an example of what a nearly complete page looks like, see these:
During the collaboration, co-coordinators will be standing by, to lend a helping hand to participants, provide instruction and tips on how to use the tools, and help them find what they are looking for. Co-coordinators will also be using advanced tools to inspect the work of participants, and touch it up as needed, or if a task was done wrong throughout, point this out to the participant so he or she can make the necessary corrections.
Co-coordinators are working on the set of pages right now, to familiarize themselves with "the World" so they can help more effectively by the time the main event starts. But there's still lots of preparation left to be done, and we are looking for editors experienced in advanced wikitools who would like to become co-coordinators.
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Hi, I've noticed User:Aducci have been creating a lot of articles on mixed martial artists with this tool that pulls info from Sherdog and makes an article out of it. The problem is that many of the persons are not at all notable, so my question is how should I deal with it? I've been going through the unassessed pages in the MMA-project and assessing them, and up till now I've just placed the prod-template on them, but would it be better to request speedy deletion (after CSD A7) as I tried on Marcelo Mello? Thanks in advance! - Aktsu (talk) 23:55, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I've tagged a few already. Do they look OK to you? Thought I'd check before sending more your way :P - Aktsu (talk) 00:11, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, there's a lot of them and I'm trying to only tag the obvious ones.. I'll just put a prod on the others. Most of them are people with actually quite a lot of fights but in pretty unknown organizations, and I don't see a reason for including them simply because no-one will keep the articles up-to-date. Thanks for taking the time to delete! - Aktsu (talk) 00:53, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
CSD A7
Please do not delete the articles of professional athletes under this criteria anymore -- for one, declaring that one has competed at a professional level is an assertion of notability, and second, it is explicitly spelled out in WP:BIO that professional athletes or exceptionally performing amateur athletes are inherently notable. If you're going to work in a certain area, I suggest you make yourself familiar with the community's practices before taking any action. east.718at 06:39, July 9, 2008
This really isn't a matter of debate, as proper grammar tells you that when there is more than one occurance of something, they should be put in a plural form. The tables have more than one time, stipulation and result, thus the headers should be plural, not singular. I would appriciate it if you didn't go making drastic errors in grammar like this and go back and fix these please. — Moeε19:05, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Hey LAX, before Backlash gets reviewed, I suggest you replace all of the 411mania.com references, as it was proven un-reliable, and may come up in the GA review. Good luck with the nomination. Also, you should archive your talk page. lol.-- iMatthewT.C.01:07, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OMG, I forgot how to write a PPV. :( Hey, does this ---> "Following the Great American Bash, a rematch between King Booker and Rey Mysterio for the World Heavyweight Championship took place. The match saw King Booker retain, after interference from Chavo Guerrero", make sense? -- ThinkBlue (HitBLUE)01:48, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, because I tried and couldn't get it to work right, though I didn't know what I was doing. It would help because the Templates don't really do anything just sitting around. It would be better if the PPV templates worked with the main one.--WillC01:33, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
SummerSlams
Hey LAX, long time not talk man. I hope you can convert the in-universe style into out-of-universe style of writing for SummerSlam (2007). I would like to do the same with SummerSlam (2003), because I think it is written sort of similarly to SS'07. Hopefully we can get these to FA standards. Another thing that we can add is the reception, so I was thinking doing the reception similar to the reception done in video game articles like it is done here and here, what you think?--SRX22:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Now that's what I call "Out-of-universe", I think its also best to explain before the feuds in the lead about the brands, and how they are "brands of wrestling" for WWE to better get an out of universe explanation of what "brands" mean. Also, do you think we should explain that "pinfall" is one of the ways to win?SRX23:37, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How about, via pinfall, a victory condition that is met by holding an opponent's shoulders on the wrestling mat for a prescribed period of time. or something like that.SRX00:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That looks great. But where are you going to put it? Also, that should go into the MoS for WP:PW.SRX01:37, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OMG! Me 2, I can't stop using that. That's gonna come up at FAC, about repetition. The event is especially hard 2.--SRX01:15, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have a question for you, I believe I'm suppose to ask a administrator about getting rollback rights if I'm right. If that is true do I qualify for getting them?--WillC03:16, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I probably have every PPV article and almost everyone of the wrestler articles that are in TNA and WWE in my watchlist so I usually know about almost every bit of vandalism that goes on. I was afraid to ask since the other day I got blocked for moving back an article to its original name without consensus and I thought the block would play a factor it the decision.--WillC05:09, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually to tell you the truth I was told by a few users that I was right in moving it back. It was me, 1362, and Gavyn Sykes trying to get a guy who kept moving Matt Sydal to his real name without a consensus. I was just helping out them two.--WillC05:31, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not joking, actually. She was featured on-screen just as much as Long and Coach. All of the three had few lines and really didn't serve any (out-of-kayfabe) purpose besides comedy. I feel that if one isn't notable, the other two aren't either. Just my opinion. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 17:20, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hey
Hey, I just got home from my vacation. I don't think I should be a Wikipedian anymore because no-one on Wikipedia likes me. IMatthew, ThinkBlue and everybody else doesnt like me. I'll have a think tonight if I should still be a Wikipedian. One other thing, what have you been up to lately. Cheers.- Cimmo (talk) 9:14, 20 July (UTC)
I know you are working on a few articles right now but can you work on an article with me?. Cheers.- Cimmo (talk) 4:17, 21 July (UTC)
As the title says, something is going on. The rv you did to SummerSlam (2007), the same guy has been used by many IPs to vandalize for the past hour. I believe someone has a product that allows them to change their IP.--WillC02:22, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Hey, I have a request. During Lockdown's GA Review I have been asked to get someone to copyedit the event section. Would you mind to do that for me?--WillC18:59, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I've tried to copyedit the event for Lockdown as much as I can to a point that I'm not sure what to do. I've read it so many times I can't tell what is good and what is wrong. Hopefully you don't find any problems.--WillC21:44, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Whenever you can get to it, take your time. I'm not in a big rush. IMatthew hasn't given me anymore problems with it lately.--WillC04:29, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
They still find jargon, even though it is explained. They also find the lead to big and should only have the main points of the events and should explain that the event is scripted. Also, there is still grammatical problems like apart--->a part. There are also other problems too, when you want to read it (lol) you should, as it could help SummerSlam 2007.--SRX15:19, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Sigh. I find this almost impossible, and I am so tired of working on the article by myself, I am so stressed about it.--SRX15:34, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That was so lame. ;) Do what you gotta do. Question: Are those "quotes" really necessary for the Background? Hey, are you gonna help out with the lead for TT '04? -- ThinkBlue (HitBLUE)02:02, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I know, I was trying to humor you. ;) I meant no harm. Well, SS'07 has it, but is just that almost every feud in the Bash have the quote. I'm just asking for a second opinion. Well, I was having trouble with writing the aftermath in the lead, since new "feuds" emerged, but I would appreciate it if you can add that little detail in the article. ;) -- ThinkBlue (HitBLUE)02:15, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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I'm close to nominating SS'03 man. Check out the improvements to it. Not all FA reviewers are the same: some are saying it has a chance, others say it will get "shredded."--SRX02:54, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There is a difference between harassing and making the truth known, and the sad truth is that Wikipedia is a pro-American website. I never called you racist, I merely stated that due to the pro-American bias this site tends to show, I do not expect to be successful. Killswitch Engage (talk) 16:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You should make the ratings in number form rather than spell them out, other than that it looks good. You plan on nominating it for GA only right?--SRX18:37, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good, but very wrestling related, lets see if they accept it. Don't feel like doing it but is 200 character or under long?--SRX19:15, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Armageddon (2003)
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No problem no one else seems to care. And Don't apologize, I'm the one that needs to but we can talk about that in private. <font-family:"Tahoma">ZACH15:26, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I replied to your last message. <font-family:"Tahoma">ZACH
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User: Kelvinthekiller (Talk | contribs) has broke the 3RR on the WWE Roster page about 15 times I suggest a 24 hour block. What do you think? SteelersFan9420:23, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to come in, but this user cannot be blocked at this time, as no warning was ever given to him. Give him a warning on his talk page, and if he continues to edit war, then block. -- iMatthewT.C.22:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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..time before I quit again, BC, I dont have any time on the computer since my service is out in my home, god knows when I get it back..P.S. I use the library computer.. RkOrToN22:35, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok I went to the Madison Square Garden RAW House Show on Aug. 24, and John Cena was FINE. He was in a tag team match with Batista, perfectly fine. SomeTimes I hate when WWE has to be such a ***** sometimes (I don't really like Cena, but this is just stupid, they should say he's taking a break or something.) RkOrToN02:42, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Before nominating it, I strongly suggest opening a peer review for it and look for FA reviewers to comment on it as that is what helped SummerSlam 2003 pass. Just take it as my last advice I give you :)--SRX01:27, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I know. Yeah, its written well. One thing does stand out, "Randy [Randal]", basically the same thing. But, that's just me, probably not that important. I got faith it will be FA. ;) Question: "Canadian Online Explorer" is not suppose to be italicized, right? -- ThinkBlue (HitBLUE)23:09, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that's the only suggestion that I came up with. Yeah, that's what I thought on CANOE not needed to be italicized, the only reason I ask is cause it was mentioned at Bad Blood's GA review and I wanted an opinion on it. After NM, are you gonna work on SummerSlam '07? -- ThinkBlue (HitBLUE)18:38, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you seem a bit over confident, but alright. Not that I don't have faith in it to pass, but it would have benefited from a good peer review. In that way at the FAC, users will not oppose it due to the way the article is written. Not every FAC reviewer is the same, and not all will give a list of what to work on for their support. But I wish you luck, and if you need help you can always contact me.SRX20:23, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, well Ealdgyth didn't say anything about it. And they notice every ref. So I'm not sure, also because its something minor.--SRX01:03, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]