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speedy delete for Citizens For A Better America (R) question.

I would like further information about why my content didn't pass the "indicate the subject's importance or significance" test. I realize that there are other organization on Wikipedia and I wanted to answer the question who is the real Citizens For A Better America (R) that has been raised in the media. I also planned to list the candidates that had been endorsed and other such thing.

While I realize I am a newbie at doing a full article I do want to get this right. I looked over Moveon.org's page and I could emulate that style if that is what you are looking for.

I made some comments on my own mytalk page, which deal with the speed of the delete, you are welcome to read them and address my issues there if you like. It mainly says that was on my way to type in 'hangon' but the page was gone.

I have played in the sandbox but that really just helps with presentation not content review, at least as far as I could tell. Please advise. Techant

Techant (talk) 09:47, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Incivility by Huaiwei

Hey - I've noticed you be extremely diplomatic and an all around good guy. I was wondering if you could talk to User:Huaiwei about civility and commenting on the content and not the contributor. I fear that the attitude taken by this editor is toxic and anti community, and I don't feel that I can help. Thanks, --Matt (talk) 18:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Me too. HkCaGu (talk) 18:33, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the complement. However I may not be the best person to have this discussion. I am one of the parties in a mediation over editing of one article along with Huaiwei. We are on different sides of that issue so I have also butted heads with this user. I have also been on the receiving end of some negative comments on several talk pages so I suspect that my opinions or suggestions may not be heard with an open mind. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:57, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

After I asked, I noticed that the mediation and more interaction, and I understand you not getting involved. Can you point out a good road to follow? --Matt (talk) 21:02, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I just looked at WP:AN and did not see anything that really covers this. Adding comments to the mediation discussion may be a way to go for now. While not binding, the recommendation from the mediator would carry some weight if no change happens. Also, the more input that discussion has, the more likely that a reasonable solution can be proposed. If the problem is larger then the scope of the mediation and really involves more editors, then those facts should be raised now. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:10, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Raised in the mediation, or raised elsewhere? --Matt (talk) 04:58, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Raised in the mediation. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:27, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I think that he is not respecting the WP:AIRPORTS guidelines and making his own rules. He is against using "consistency" in articles. Audude08 (talk) 23:12, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Georgios_Toubalidis

I noticed you closed the above AfD without indicating the outcome of the debate. The consensus, such as it was, was "delete". Should I go ahead a relist for better consensus? Thank you. – ukexpat (talk) 21:07, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

100 Longest-Running Broadway shows

As you may be aware, the debate on Category:100 Longest-Running Broadway shows was closed as listify. I've created List of the 100 Longest-Running Broadway shows. It's in need of quite a bit more work, if you're interested. Also, if you know someone with a bot that can depopulate the category, that would be nice. I'm not going there. Ma^t_chups 12:29, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Fish product sales

You have deleted an article, which I created a few minutes ago, and is central to a number of articles linking to it and the work I am doing right now. You have stopped me dead in the water. If you had done your work, you would have noticed that already about 200 articles link to this article. How dare you delete this article after just a few minutes. Who the hell do you think you are. Immediately restore my work, and stop interfering. --Geronimo20 (talk) 23:51, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

This is cowboy wikilawyering, and you know it. Get a sense of balance. --Geronimo20 (talk) 00:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

i apologize

i apologize for deleting your page and rerouting it to im a poop head...it was very late and i hadn't slept in over 24 hours and was trying to make an article that you deleted as soon as i pushed save...i did not realize that you couldn't see that the page was being edited and i know that now so i am very sorry... i thought that you just did it out of spite not liking my work but i now realize that you couldn't have known so i am sorry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luckystar41292 (talk • contribs) 01:48, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Aloha Airlines

I know that sometimes being an admin is a thankless task. (Part of why, so far, I haven't persued becoming an admin.)
I don't argue that there's a bit of edit warring on Aloha Airlines, which I'm not the least involved with.
But isn't it overdoing it to protect the article for 60 days, until June?.
-- Yellowdesk (talk) 01:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for reply; right. Semi-protection. -- Yellowdesk (talk) 02:17, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

McCarran International Airport

Can I ask why you reverted my changes? They were well-sourced, and made in good faith. As a relative newcomer I would like to learn how to enhance Wikipedia without treading on any toes. 78.145.178.86 (talk) 14:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

G11 speedy?

Hi, I feel I've been around for long enough to have developed a good understanding of our deletion policies including speedies and hangon (see my contribs). I was away from wikipedia when XAD (resins) was nominated under G11 speedy criterion at 08:13 GMT, and therefore unable to tag the article {{hangon}} before 08:18 GMT when it was deleted. I would certainly have tagged it if I had been given a fair chance to do so. I am surprised that it was speedy deleted only five minutes after nomination, and I would like to explain my reasons.

The reason I respectfully disagree with the speedy is that I do not think that G11 applies to this article. G11 is for pages which exclusively promote some entity and which would need to be fundamentally rewritten to become encyclopedic. XAD resins are widely referred to by that name in analytical chemistry, where they are very extensively used in continuous sampling protocols. They are the most widely used resins for continuous sampling, and the name has become fairly generic. See, for example, this mainstream journal article in Journal of Chromatography A: Lepane V (1999) Comparison of XAD resins for the isolation of humic substances from seawater, J. Chromatography A, 845(1-2):329-335 G11 says that simply having a company or product as its subject does not qualify an article for this criterion. The article was a stub about a highly specialized material that is a commercial product, and I was planning to expand it, though it was already informative as to some of the properties, structure and purpose of XAD resins; it did not need to be "fundamentally rewritten" to make the description encyclopedic.

I am only interested in the science of XAD resins; I have no connection with any manufacturers of XAD resins, and no interest in promoting their products. I have zero tolerance of spam, and I don't consider the article was spam.

The history of the article should be mentioned too. XAD was an article about both XAD software and XAD resins, and yet it was in the category software stubs, which is wrong, because it should clearly have been a dab page. I moved the page to XAD (software), reworded the XAD resins content, expanded it and moved it to a new page, and created a dab page at XAD. I was in the middle of expanding the XAD resins article, and would like an opportunity to continue writing it. I would be grateful for your thoughts on this. - Neparis (talk) 15:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

If you had indicated that the article was the result of a split from the XAD article in the edit comment, I probably would have changed the nomination to a PROD. I have no issue with the article being recreated if it has something more to establish notability. The time between nomination and deletion can be short if someone happens to drop in and see something, review it and then delete it. In this case the queue was small and this article matched one of the criteria that I use to select articles that I look at. So I saw it and followed through. Speedy deletion is based on the article content and not how long the article has existed. The old text exists in the original article and you can use that for the basis of a new article with a bit more to establish notability. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I still think the G11 criterion doesn't apply to the article for the reasons stated, at least as I interpret G11. Since I edited and reworded the old text, adding significant details of properties, structure, purpose, etc, that were not in the old text, it would save me some unnecessary work to be able to see the article again. Could you userfy it for me, e.g. as Neparis/XAD_(resins)? I'll work on it userspace, adding a few more RS citations for better establishment of notability — a different but more easily resolvable issue fortunately. Many thanks, - Neparis (talk) 19:16, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Done. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. It was in mainspace though, so I moved it to userspace. Could you delete the mainspace redirect? Also, for GFDL compliance, could you restore the version history too? - Neparis (talk) 20:16, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Trauma Centers

With the trauma centers being US only then i think they should be removed from the template as that is worldwide which is what wikipedia is and not only just usa. So i think that either the template be renamed as "USA emergency medicine" or have all the non world wide removed. What do you think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.30.137.201 (talk) 01:26, 5 April 2008 (UTC)