User talk:Realist2

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FL

hello, look I found a new source to complete at List of best-selling albums worldwide, tell me accept my Contributions http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6251176.stm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.72.236.180 (talk) 21:27, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure if we'll have a chance at List of best-selling albums worldwide becoming FL. It looks like there's too many source-related problems with it. This isn't an easy list to improve. And we have yet to get a support, with the exception of you and me. But, it can't hurt to try, but we'd better be prepared to get new sources. Cheers, Kodster ^{(heLLo) (Me did that)} 17:22, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Like a Rolling Stone

Finally, Rurhfisch got his PR in. Would you mind helping me with it when you get the chance? Thanks. Cheers, Kodster ^{(heLLo) (Me did that)} 19:00, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

LOL, exams. Good times. ;) I'll look for some sources for the list. Cheers, Kodster ^{(heLLo) (Me did that)} 19:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikibreak

Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I am going to Europe on business, and will be taking a Wikibreak until June 12 (2008, of course). I'll try to get an hour or two into Wikipedia tomorrow, but then the Wikibreak template goes on my page and that's it. Good luck with your articles, and try to catch up on Like a Rolling Stone if you have the chance (it'd be a pity to see it go to waste). So, until June... --Cheers, Kodster ^{(heLLo) (Me did that)} 01:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Your Wikipresent

Since I won't be here on May 27 for your Wikibirthday, here's your early present!

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Happy editing! --Cheers, Kodster ^{(heLLo) (Me did that)} 21:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou, man its gonna be so boring with you away for like three weeks. ;-( --Realist² (Come Speak To Me) 21:40, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

LOL, editing from the airport. I'll be here for an hour or two (mainly using Huggle). Cheers, Kodster ^{(heLLo) (Me did that)} 22:32, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Backlash

Can I add your name to WP:GAN page, since your reviewing Backlash? SexySeaShark 16:03, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing it. Speed CG ^Talk 15:33, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Michael Jackson images

I've blocked him for 31 hours. He's uploaded that same image three times now. Enough is enough. --Rodhullandemu 18:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Featured List

I've just given this a quick read, and I can see the problem. Good idea to use the RIAA figures, but using older sources is definitely going to be a problem for a FL. Every "i" needs dotting, every "t" crossing, and the sourcing must be impeccable for featured content. I've seen problems with these types of comparative lists before, and it is largely one of original research since it can't be possible to be sure that your sources cover a truly "worldwide" perspective; sales are usually pretty well-documented, however. Not sure where you'd go with that one. Obviously you can discount markets such as Albania, but figures for larger countries such as Germany & Australia may be less easy to find. It's also important that sales are over comparable time periods, which makes the old sources a problem. An example of this is sales by Nick Drake, whose records sold most about thirty years after his death. Best of luck, but all I can suggest is that you keep on looking for sources. --Rodhullandemu 19:45, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Aye, there seems to be no way that we can pull the list off as it is (or even at all) as an FL without having ONE big worldwide list. Oh well, nothing to do but keep looking and maybe find one... --Cheers, Kodster ^{(heLLo) (Me did that)} 20:12, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello

I'll always be around. My interest in the article is to get it to FA. I left it as my interference did nothing, so I hoped my avoidance would do something better. And it has apparently. --Manboobies (talk) 20:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the themes section is just plain naff. I'm sensing a forced POV in both directions. Perhaps it could just discuss his different styles. IE:

"Jackson worked with Disco, funk and Soul on Off the wall, Funk, rock and pop on Thriller, more modern hip hop influences were present in Dangerous in the New Jack Swing style"

It would all require sourcing or changing to whatever a few books on the subject have to say. I'm working on getting somebody to make a program or script so you can just type the author and book into a dialogue and it comes up with the ref tag for you. Have you noticed how complicated sourcing is at the moment? No wonder the newbies don't do it. I barely manage it myself, it's too complicated! The Wiki requires more user tools for this complicated task.--Manboobies (talk) 20:56, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Are you suggesting you write the content and I alter it for language flow then? Sounds fine. Which sources are you planning on using? I will endevour to obtain any books required. As for the degree, I'm doing one. It's much easier to cite books in MS Word using the software the university provides. I type Author into the author box, title into the title box, page number, the ISBN into the ISBN box, then hit store. It's so easy. Then I just type in a new page number for the diferent pages. It takes me seconds. Wikipedia has crap tools for its embattled contributors (With constant attacks at us, we are all constantly on edge, making attacks against others ourselves out of frustration). Frankly how Wiki can take sourcing seriously when there is no easy tool to use to create citation tags is a complete mystery to me. --Manboobies (talk) 21:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I left to focus on academic work. I'm still doing that now. However I can dedicate time to a plan. How would you like to make the plan? I think if we start with a mind map on http://www.mindomo.com . We can create a plan there. Really brain storming is the best start. We call it mind maps now tho, because of the negative connotations brain storm has to people with epilepsy. I've signed up and created an initial mind map. If you give me your email address and sign up as well, I'll add you as a writable user and you can work on the mind map with me for a plan. --Manboobies (talk) 21:44, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

You'll recieve an invitation to work on the mind map with me. You click on the main topic in the middle and hit subtopic to make a new bubble. Then drag it around. Themes on the left, genres on the right. Then, I thought maybe we could come up with potential sources for the information by clicking on the subtopic, hitting subtopic again and writing in the little bubble that branches off what source we'll use to prove the claim.--Manboobies (talk) 21:58, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

One of us can work on the plan at a time (both of us working on it would be almost impossible to sync and follow anyway). Hit save to make your changes visible to me.--Manboobies (talk) 22:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, late a look what i did, im just getting to grips with it at the moment. Realist² (Come Speak To Me) 22:19, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

It's absolutely fine. It's a set of good additions. I think this method of communication isn't quite fast enough tho. Do you have an instant messenger application? We can discuss our changes properly thru that. I have gtalk (to talk to aol members) and msn if you prefer that. Let me know. Also, Where I am (South of England in the UK) it is now 11:20pm, so I must be off for a shower and bed. But I will be around tomorrow to read your changes, and if you're not around, I'll discuss them here, and if you are, we can discuss them on an instant messaging program. Sound good? --Manboobies (talk) 22:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

This one is fer real

Sorry... Looks like this Janet Jackson tour is for real: [1]. There's enough out there that this checks out... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 20:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, we should keep an eye on her official site (the Island Records one is much better than janetjackson.com, which is entirely impossible to navigate and learn anything). The Island Records site has not been updated since March 5, but apparently she announced it today on the Ellen show. It may take a few more days for the really reliable stuff to catch up, but looking at the volume of blogs and other sites reporting this, it is quite likely a real deal. It wouldn't make much point to delete it since it looks reasonable that it will happen, and the reliable press just needs a day or two to catch up... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 20:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[2] I think we can lay it to rest. If the associated press says its a go, we can prolly trust them. Anyhoo, thanks for keeping your eyes out for shenanigans, and let me know if I can ever do anything for ya... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 22:59, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I say let it sit. I can merge the histories back together once we have it worked out what the real name is... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 23:14, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

"Rock Witchu" is just ghetto! I hope the actual name is "Rock With U" or simply "Discipline". The Bookkeeper (_{of the Occult}) 23:49, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you. I have been real busy. Would you mind helping out with new page patrol. That place is a mess right now. I have to constantly switch between the np and rc pages. Exhausting.:(Xp54321 ^{(Talk,Contribs)} 22:50, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

That's okay. Article improvement is just as important as anti-vandalism not more. Also just a quick fyi Kodster is in europe and busy. I rolled back vandalism(I knew rollback would come in handy I have used it about 20 times since then) on his userpage and he managed to respond but also told me that would be his last edit till mid june.Xp54321 ^{(Talk,Contribs)} 23:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

LOL, hello. It's 2:20 A.M. and I'm practically asleep, but I managed to ask The Exalted One an interesting question about anti-vandalism tools (see here). Anyway, I won't be planning many more of these late-night Wikicramming sessions, but I just wanted to pop in to say hello. :) Cheers, Kodster ^{(heLLo) (Me did that)} 02:25, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Question: RyRy5 helped change my signature as you can see. But I want to change talk to Beware Vandals!.:) Would you happen to know how?Xp54321 ^{(Talk,Contribs)} 23:07, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Result=(By the I have way this is the first post with this sig,I have yet to see it myself)Xp54321 ^{(Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs)} 23:18, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!!!!(Barnstar on the way:))Xp54321 ^{(Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs)} 23:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		Not sure if this is the appropriate barnstar but it has a smiley face which is what my face looks like right now.:D Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 23:21, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Cheers!!! Realist² (Come Speak To Me) 23:23, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh yes, please do so.:)Xp54321 ^{(Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs)} 23:25, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

In Addition

In addition if you'll see my userpage. I put myself on editor review. Hope you don't mind putting in a review.:)Xp54321 ^{(Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs)} 23:27, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Same notice about new sig as before. Result=Xp54321 ^{(Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs)} 23:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Mmmh small but italicized. Still size is important also color not a prob. If you cant get it to work with current color change it.Xp54321 ^{(Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs)} 23:33, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I would like that whole beware thing larger.:)Xp54321 ^{(Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs)} 23:50, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, we will take this in stages, first try this one in your preferences

[[User:Xp54321|<font color="191970">'''Xp54321''']]</font><sup> ([[User talk:Xp54321|<font color="FF8C00">'''''Vandals Beware!!!'''''</font>]],[[Special:Contributions/Xp54321|<font color="FF8C00">'''''Contribs'''''</font>]])</sup>

That's okay.Xp54321 ^{(Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs)} 23:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Maybe my yellow is slightly darker. Realist² (Come Speak To Me) 23:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh what do you want for your present. 5 barnstars?;)Xp54321 ^{(Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs)} 23:57, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes I would like it brought down. What's the code necessary for that? Don't worry I'll think of something for your first wiki-birthday.;)Xp54321 ^{(Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs)} 02:02, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

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Michael Jackson

Regarding this edit [3]. If you want the article featured you need the sources in the lead. Only trying to help  Funky Monkey  (talk)  19:20, 21 May 2008 (UTC)