Talk:Feminists for Life

The American Feminist reference

Anyone know if this is a book or journal or magazine or ? The cites don't offer much and it would be nice to know what the text says just for verification if nothing else. Benjiboi 01:37, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

http://www.feministsforlife.org/taf/ is a publication put out by the group themselves. Benjiboi 02:00, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

I thought I'd look in here to see what all the fuss was about and it seems this is a bit of a problem article. If The American feminist is (and from the link it definetly is) a Feminist for Life publication then it is a primary source and not a terribly reliable one. As per WP:RS, WP:V and WP:N sources need to be "independent of the subject". Looking through the refs here - there's maybe 1 relieble source about the feminists for life the Pro-Life Feminism: Different Voices ref.

This is slightly tangential to this discussion but I'm also very dubious about the Feminist for Life, Ireland's notability- I don't know if they're still active or if they pass WP:ORG. There's certainly be no mentioned I've seen (I could be wrong here) in the media here in Ireland and there's been a number of demonstrations and counter demonstrations about abortion in the last 10-12 weeks. Breda O'Brien was fairly notable as a pro-life journalist but I can neither see nor find any sources for the Irish chapter--Cailil ^talk 14:20, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Agreed there is a pile of problems with the article. My first goal was to support the article simply being structured in a way that led to understanding the group and facilitating some clean-up. The American Feminist journal may be self-published but it does seem to be of some decent quality. Having stated that I feel it's OK to use when they are referencing what they believe, etc. They also have college chapters but these may be very temporary ones so all of it needs to be looked at eventually. Thanks for the heads up on the Irish chapter, if you do come across something useful please add it. Benjiboi 15:38, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Chapters no longer existant

I would like to state that Feminists for Life does not have state chapters any longer, their last major chapter was known as Feminists for Life of New York and without warning they dismissed this chapter in 2007, it is now known as Feminists Choosing Life for New York. 216.201.33.27 07:16, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Possible sources

This link here has some possible material for the article. It's been sitting on my talk page and I want anyone to feel free to use it if they want to. Benjiboi 13:16, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Socialist

Feminists for life's philosophy seems to be extremely socialist, and even their arguements are that women have abortions because of society, should this be included? 216.201.48.10 (talk) 14:16, 17 June 2008 (UTC)