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==Patrick==
==Patrick==
For those of you who are unaware, the page [[Patrick (SpongeBob SquarePants)]] was recently redirected to this page despite a no consensus (default keep) result. The redirector claims it was based on the peer review above but i have not seen anything in it as to why ''Patrick'' is not notable. The page is protected now because of edit warring, but after the protection is lifted (Saturday morning around 1:00 US EDT, 5:00 UTC), the page should be un-redirected pending further discussion. I personally believe the page on Pat should be kept [[User:NewYork483|NewYork483]] ([[User talk:NewYork483|talk]]) 04:45, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
For those of you who are unaware, the page [[Patrick (SpongeBob SquarePants)]] was recently redirected to this page despite a no consensus (default keep) result. The redirector claims it was based on the peer review above but i have not seen anything in it as to why ''Patrick'' is not notable. The page is protected now because of edit warring, but after the protection is lifted (Saturday morning around 1:00 US EDT, 5:00 UTC), the page should be un-redirected pending further discussion. I personally believe the page on Pat should be kept [[User:NewYork483|NewYork483]] ([[User talk:NewYork483|talk]]) 04:45, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:I agree with you, the new page on Patrick met general notability guidelines and should not be redirected here <font color="red">[[User:Frank Anchor|'''Frank Anchor''']]</font> <sup><font color="orange">[[User_talk:Frank Anchor|Talk to me]]</font></sup> (R-OH) 04:48, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
* I agree with you, the new page on Patrick met general notability guidelines and should not be redirected here <font color="red">[[User:Frank Anchor|'''Frank Anchor''']]</font> <sup><font color="orange">[[User_talk:Frank Anchor|Talk to me]]</font></sup> (R-OH) 04:48, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:I also agree. Patrick is a notable character and nothing has been discussed on why he was redirected here in the first place a few months ago. [[User:Busta Baxta|Busta Baxta]] ([[User talk:Busta Baxta|talk]]) 17:19, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
* I also agree. Patrick is a notable character and nothing has been discussed on why he was redirected here in the first place a few months ago. [[User:Busta Baxta|Busta Baxta]] ([[User talk:Busta Baxta|talk]]) 17:19, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
* I also agree, if the page on Patrick is re-opened, Wikipedians would be aware that reliable sources are needed, provided the article is properly tagged. Also, it is notable based on the guide lines of [[WP:FICT]] <[[User:Baseballfan789|Baseballfan789]] ([[User talk:Baseballfan789|talk]]) 14:10, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

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Peer Review

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Controversy?

A few years ago, parents were complaining that Spongebob had gay references and that it should be their job to teach their kids about homosexuality and not the job of television. And they kept reffering to Spongebob as the prime example. Wanna argue? Read this: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/20/politics/20sponge.html?_r=2&oref=login&oref=slogin&oref=slogin --Particleman24 (talk) 00:54, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Spongebob is actually good and enjoyable cartoon for children it is so interesting because there are a lot of different characters with different personalities but also coming to nicktoons the spongebob movie is coming out on nicktoons so keep watching nicktoons it is the best program for kids —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.18.212.150 (talk) 16:21, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I personally think that, if there is any determined sexuality to the characters, they're like asexual. They simply were never written with the actual intent of sexual plotlines. -- Zanimum (talk) 15:35, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
So... Are we going to add a section called "Controversy", or not? --Particleman24 (talk) 19:44, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On that subject, does anybody know why the episode "Procrastination" was edited? I have it on tape and at one point, when spongebob can't write his essay, he jumps out of his chair and says "I know. I just need to get a little blood pumping in the old noodle(Brain). How about some calisthenics?"Then he does some exercises, says "I can feel those juices pumping now!", and gets back into his chair. But if you watch the episode on TV now, spongebob is sitting in his chair, says "Gee, this is harder than I thought." and then it shows him standing on the ground saying "I can feel those juices pumping now!" and then he gets back into his chair. Did somebody find the exercises inappropriate or something? --Rubixmike14 —Preceding comment was added at 02:52, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I read somewhere that CITV censored Spongebob for no reason. Are you from the UK? --Particleman24 (talk) 19:45, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, Nickelodeon also took it out, although it is still on the DVD. And also, about Just One Bite, I know that the security scene was taken out due to two things... 9/11 and also it shows children how to create large fires, but sometimes they still show it. Does anyone know why? If you watch closely, you can also tell if it is the edited one or not by if The Bully comes first or not. If it does, the scene is intact. I've been trying to watch it for that [scene], and I've noticed that sometimes it shows it and sometimes it dubs it out. Could anyone help me prove this and come up with an answer why? EuroJordan (talk) 15:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question about plot

Is there an episode of SbSp where Patrick either looses a rock, or is looking for a new one or something? I know he lives under a rock, but apparently there's an episode where he's looking for a rock. (This is surprisingly a serious, work-related question; I can't explain any more than that though.) Much appreciated! -- Zanimum (talk) 15:21, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I could research it if you wanted a definite answer, but I do know off the top of my head there is an episode where Patrick has a pet rock entered in a snail race against SB and Squidward, and ends up winning. Maybe not what you're looking for, but I would check out the list of episodes links. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.81.124.118 (talk) 02:10, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, thank you, that sounds like it might be it! -- Zanimum (talk) 17:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is also an issue of a sponge bob magazine with a comic when Patrick is looking for a rock because sponge bob smashed his old one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.199.78.33 (talk) 14:01, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not a soap opera

Can someone change the opening sentence where is says "SpongeBob SquarePants is an Emmy-nominated American animated Soap opera and media franchise." It's a comedic animated show, soap opera is really a stretch!! 74.37.248.173 (talk) 23:58, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That was a temporary piece of vandalism, which was quickly reverted, after you saw it. -- Zanimum (talk) 00:59, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Baby Scallop

In this article, it is said that Spongebob and Patrick nurture a baby clam. However, it was, in actuality, a baby scallop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.233.251 (talk) 18:52, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. -AMK152(TalkContributionsSend message) 00:04, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Music

The theme song was composed and produced by Mark Harrison. The lyrics were written by Stephan Hillenburg and Derek Drymon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmkea (talkcontribs) 04:37, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uh?

Does anyone know what happened to the "Spongebob SquarePants in popular culture" section went? Or did it move somewhere? There are some things I want to check, to see if they were already added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rackuchino (talkcontribs) 08:36, 27 May 2008 --Rackuchino (talk) 08:38, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New Writers Re-route Show

Anyone think the article should address the new characteristics of the show as of late? Since the show hired new writers, the show has gone downhill. Spongebob's voice (by Tom Kenny) has gone up even higher. In almost every one of the new episodes, one or more characters go crazy at some point. Also, for some reason the animators draw Spongebob's nose as limp more than often, so that it flucuates between limp and normal. Is that a new function of Spongebob's nose? Also, the humor has become very childish. Whereas, before, the humor was laid out as the plot progessed, the new episodes just feature non-sensical humor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.107.28.6 (talk) 01:53, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


I agree, and I am a kid, and I have been disapointed in the new episodes but the humor part is just an opinion. If you find any ratings anywhere that prove your point, then I think we should add it to this article. EuroJordan (talk) 01:28, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comeback?: Evidence

Alright, well I'm the same person who, before, suggested that the show is indeed declining in quality and that there should be a note of this. Now, I did some research at tv.com (for those who don't know, its a website where registered members can vote and average a score for an episode, as well as other information). Now, I've composed this data and I will post it for you to view. This is a compilation of episode scores based on the publics vote (from tv.com) they are in order of lowest score to highest score and organized by season. It is set-up so that it is like:


Season #

Episode Score - # of Episodes that received that score

(etc.)



Season One

8.0 – 1

8.4 – 2

8.5 – 4

8.6 – 4

8.7 – 2

8.8 – 2

8.9 – 1

9.0 – 2

9.1 – 2

Lowest: 8.0 (1 episode)

Majority: 8.5/8.6 (4 episodes each)

Highest: 9.1 (2 episodes)

Status: Good start with reasonable average


Season Two

8.6 – 4

8.7 – 1

8.8 – 1

8.9 – 5

9.0 – 1

9.1 – 1

9.2 – 4

9.3 – 1

9.5 – 1

Lowest: 8.6 (4 episodes)

Majority: 8.6/9.2 (4 episodes each)

Highest: 9.5 (1 episode)

Status: Strong follow through with varying episode quality


Season Three

7.6 – 1

8.1 – 1

8.6 – 1

8.7 – 1

8.8 – 2

8.9 – 1

9.0 – 1

9.1 – 3

9.2 – 3

9.3 – 4

9.4 – 1

9.5 – 3

Lowest: 7.6 (1 episode)

Majority: 9.3 (4 episodes)

Highest: 9.5 (3 episodes)

Status: Superb third season, one bad episode, but 15 (of 22) episodes are 9.0 and above, that’s amazing

Notes: This includes the Spongebob Squarepants Movie


Season 4

6.6 – 1

7.2 – 1

7.9 – 1

8.0 – 1

8.1 – 1

8.2 – 1

8.3 – 1

8.4 – 2

8.5 – 2

8.6 – 4

8.7 – 1

8.8 – 3

8.9 – 1

9.0 – 2

9.1 – 1

9.2 – 1

9.4 – 1

Lowest: 6.6 (1 episode)

Majority: 8.6 (4 episodes)

Highest: 9.4 (1 episode)

Status: Getting shaky with episode quality, this is the biggest range yet, but still has some well-received episodes


Season 5

5.5 – 1

6.4 – 1

7.0 – 1

7.5 – 1

7.8 – 1

7.9 – 3

8.1 – 2

8.2 – 1

8.3 – 2

8.4 – 4

8.6 – 1

8.9 – 1

Lowest: 5.5 (1 episode)

Majority: 8.4 (4 episodes)

Highest: 8.9 (1 episode)

Status: Right here it really begins to lose its touch where there is not a single 9


Season 6 (unfinished)

6.0 – 1

7.1 – 1

7.3 – 1

7.4 – 2

7.6 – 1

7.8 – 1

8.2 – 1

Lowest: 6.0 (1 episode)

Majority: 7.4 (2 episodes)

Highest: 8.1 (1 episode)

Status: So far, not looking good


Alright, well, I'll leave this for all of you to look at and decide, and keep in mind that Season 6 is UNFINISHED. And, with this evidence, I say we should at least note SOMETHING about this perhaps change the title from COMEBACK to COMEBACK AND DECLINE. Thank you. 24.3.239.76 (talk) 16:03, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No Part About S.P.F.5 Week?!?!

Hey,can someone please add to the part,comeback, something about S.P.F.5 (Spongebob Premiere Factor 5) week. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.206.252.134 (talk) 22:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Paper Luigi (talk) 03:07, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks,Paper Luigi! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.206.252.134 (talk) 22:13, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bikini Bottom

The Bikini Bottom section is too long. I propose a seprate article. Paper Luigi (talk) 03:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Making a separate article would go against decision on AfD. I don't think it's that simple to make it an article again. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 13:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Goverment??????????

This section is totally crazy! With all these "Houses" and everything like that. This is just plain stupid. And the section saying Patrick and Gary were Kings from 2007-2020 is pure vandalism. If the time in SpongeTime was really 2020, wouldn't everyone be dead?!? The "government" is very rarely explored and shouldn't be included with this article. Has Nickelodeon ever released info of the government of Bikini Bottom? I will wait for a week from today and if no one has an argument I am removing this info from this article.Cssiitcic (talk) 21:12, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I think it was all pasted in from a deleted article. DJ Clayworth (talk) 21:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick

For those of you who are unaware, the page Patrick (SpongeBob SquarePants) was recently redirected to this page despite a no consensus (default keep) result. The redirector claims it was based on the peer review above but i have not seen anything in it as to why Patrick is not notable. The page is protected now because of edit warring, but after the protection is lifted (Saturday morning around 1:00 US EDT, 5:00 UTC), the page should be un-redirected pending further discussion. I personally believe the page on Pat should be kept NewYork483 (talk) 04:45, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]