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:What would you like to do with it? [[Wikipedia:User Page Design Center]] can help you learn how to work with the design.-- [[::User:Collectonian|<span style='font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color:#5342F'>Collectonian</span>]]&nbsp;([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 23:38, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
:What would you like to do with it? [[Wikipedia:User Page Design Center]] can help you learn how to work with the design.-- [[::User:Collectonian|<span style='font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color:#5342F'>Collectonian</span>]]&nbsp;([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 23:38, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

==Masters of horror==

If you;re going to delet them all take it to AFD, don't do some sneaky redirect thing. [[User:Artw|Artw]] ([[User talk:Artw|talk]]) 23:55, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Revision as of 23:55, 7 August 2008

I prefer to reply to comments on the page they were left, so if I left a comment on your page, reply there it is on my watch list. If you leave a comment here, watch this page until the discussion is done as I will only leave replies here. Comments which I find to be uncivil, full of vulgarities, an attempt at flame baiting, or that are excessively rude may be deleted without response. Comments from harassing editors or wikistalkers will also be summarily removed without response. If I choose not to answer, that's my right, don't keep putting it back. I'll just delete and get annoyed at you.

Are you here about an edit I made? You may want to check my user page first to get some general info on some common questions about edits I make. Here are some quick links as well:

Blue Dragon

Have you heard any news about the plans to start Blue Dragon's anime page yet? Gears of War is thinking that all anime characters should have their own character page. Let me know on my talk page. Rtkat3 (talk) 7:33, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Does the lead paragraph necessitate references? Thought it would be required for things like the conception and reception areas. Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 16:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The lead paragraph shouldn't need references, because it should be a summary of the article. If it introduces new facts not sourced in the article, then it should be sourced. The rest of the entire article should be referenced, including conception, reception, etc. Only the main plot summary doesn't require it (in the series article...if you meant to link to the character one, then its the entire article sans the lead, as noted). -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 16:20, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Does that {{fact}} tag have to go? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 16:41, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If the article doesn't support that claim, then the fact tag should remain. If its sourced in the article, the fact tag should be removed. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 16:43, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Ok. Do you have the time to look into it? I don't see it anywhere else. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 16:53, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Giving it a once over, nothing in the reception section supports those claims. The article has quite a few sourcing issues as well, so doesn't surprise me much. From the statements themselves, I suspect they are at least partially correct, so just need a valid source. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 18:29, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

A user added this source to put some poll. I reverted because it was a blog. Is it okay? Template:Tintor2

Yes, poll results from an unknown poll reported in a blog is not a reliable source. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 14:45, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I have put up the notice I mentioned last night. Check if the wording is OK, thanks!--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 14:55, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks fine to me. Thanks. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 15:00, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Abtract's user page

Did you catch this? Looks like a personal attack against me. He even mentions you on the user page. Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 01:04, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, I hadn't looked to see what he was doing. For the section on you, I'd agree, that's a personal attack. No idea who to report it to, though, since seems like he is just being allowed to get away with anything. Maybe User:Natalya, though Abtract seemed to run and whine to her about me calling him a stalker (never mind that he admitted to it *rolling eyes*). -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 01:11, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I'm removing it. Well the "fool" part at least. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 01:14, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I left a note on Natalya's page, since he made false accusations about me there (claiming I called Ncmvocalist a nut and that I'm a "danger to myself" *rolls eyes*). -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 01:16, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Left a warning on Abtract's talk page. Was a {{uw-npa3}} too kind of me? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 01:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Seems fair to me, but I suspect one of his supporters will probably pitch a fit, as technically it violates the agreement you signed (reverted him). Its better to let an admin deal with him than doing so directly. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 01:21, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Collectonian, I appreciate you expressing your concerns - there are definitly some issues. If you didn't already see my reply at User_talk:Natalya#Your_eagle_eye_is_needed_pls, I hope you'll take a look at it - I've similarly directed Sesshomaru and Abtract to it also. I really believe that the three of you can be productive contributors to the encyclopedia, but things would be much healthier for everyone (the three of you, and all close parties also) if things could just be let be. Be the better person and don't let someone's bickering get to you. -- Natalya 01:36, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Be the better person" would be better advice if Abtract hadn't been blocked for wikistalking and personal atacks against these two editors multiple times, and been unblocked last time with a promise (again) to leave them alone. Coll/Sess, on behalf of wikipedia, I apologize. This is exactly the kind of situation I was afraid of last time. Dayewalker (talk) 01:54, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. It would be one thing if this just started up, I could see the call to be civil and all. But with the past history, I'm being about as civil as I can be considering he is still finding little ways to harass us both while "following" the agreement. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 02:21, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Not to seem arrogant, but I "am" a productive contributor, despite the headaches of the situation with Abtract. :P -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 02:21, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
No, after posting I actually relalized that you deserved more credit than I gave you - my apologies. After a point, you're right, you can't ignore things. That doesn't mean that there still shouldn't be civility! But, that also doesn't mean that you shouldn't report issues and the like. I'm not 100% sure what to do in this situation, but we'll see how it goes. Abtract has given some rationale at User_talk:Abtract#August_2008, and at least from a perspective of an editor who he is not having disagreements with, it seems a little less malicious than originally thought. Not that things couldn't have been done better (as always!). Anyway, thanks for working on this issue, and for your patience. We'll see how things go, and I'll do my best to keep eyes on the situation in a hopefully neutral fashion.
On a totally unrelated note, I've gotten that gender confusion mentioned on your userpage a bit in the past (although, probably not as often as you?). People don't give women enough credit for being present on Wikipedia! -- Natalya 11:00, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for keeping an eye on things. And LOL at the gender confusion. Even with the note on my userpage, I get referred to as a male. I thought about making my pages pink, but I just hate pink too much to tolerate it :) -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 13:06, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Few article checks.

Hello,

Is it possible you could have a quick check over the following articles and tag them, so i know what still needs done to improve them. And make any other comments that might not be a tag please :)

And if you think there class or importance is wrong can you modify them?

Only asking because your a more experienced editor than me.

Thanks--Andrewcrawford (talk) 15:40, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For Extreme makeover; dump the red links on the family names. Few, if any, will ever be notable enough to have their own articles. Also, IMDB is not a reliable reference, so those need to be removed. Ditto TV.com. Both are user edited. The notes section is excessive and needs to be paired down a lot. If its relevant, it should be in the article, otherwise its mostly unsourced commentary. Some of the location names need to be fixed. Should be using city, state link rather than two separate links. If the prod codes came from TV.com, that whole column should go. Per TV project consensus, it isn't reliable. Also, episode summaries do not need a reference, so all those lines need to go. All of the Yu-Gi-Oh's have major issues. I'll clean some and tag for the rest. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 15:47, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I've tagged the media list for merge - bad split. For the episode lists, I've fixed their names, and I've cleaned up season 1. I've tagged all of them, however one of the biggest issues is that they all have the wrong names in Japanese name. That field is for the romanji version of the name, not an English translated. All four season lists still need a lot of work. See List of Dragon Ball episodes and its subarticles for guidance. I've also alerted the project to the need to overhaul all four. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 16:09, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
it was only split because the article became the 3rd largest on wikipedia ;) but comments noted and i will try work on them more now thanks :)--Andrewcrawford (talk) 17:52, 6 August 2008 (UTC) Ingore that first part i am complete idiot i misunderstood i thought you meant merge the list back to media part, but i agree with mergint he information into yu-gi-oh! gx page it needs clean up anyway.--Andrewcrawford (talk) 18:06, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I wish i knew about tv.com and imbd.com not being allowed for reference just seen other guides like tat so assumed it was fine. wasn't sure since the type of show if extreme makeover would qualify for individual episode so thought best adding it for now easily removed. as for the notes trust me i was trying to think should i remove it or keep i decided for now i am trying to get it into list format i will just keep it for now and then go back later and remove it. but i really appericate your comments :)--Andrewcrawford (talk) 18:04, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
For Yu-Gi-Oh! GX, the issue of size isn't solved by that kind of split. Part of the problem is the overly long plot, and it has some other issues that can be fixed without doing a full media split. I've asked at the A&M project for someone to adopt to get it back into shape for it follows the MoS. For the Extreme Homemaker over, very few television episodes of any series are notable enough to have their own episode. Best to presume they don't than to redlink and presume they do. :) -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 18:07, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
That cools it be good to see it made better, basically i just done the lead in because someone previous tagged it say it needed, unfortunately my English aint great so i probably made it worse :( although i did say in the talk page plenty of times for someone to shorten the summaries and tidy them up but no one ever did :(. i have one issue will the project remove the first English air date which was the UK for quite a few episodes and replace them with American :( cause there was a lot of campaign to use first English air date.--Andrewcrawford (talk) 18:15, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In general, the first English aired date should be noted, not the first American. Usually the first English = the First American, but not always. If there is a reliable source showing that the series aired in the UK before the US, it should be noted on the talk page and discussed. Other Wikipedia talk pages, however, are not reliable sources, hence those being removed during the cleaning. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 21:33, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
It was noted before the split so it if is rediscussed and note din the new talk page it be fine?--Andrewcrawford (talk) 07:00, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As long as there are reliable sources to prove the dates, yes. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 13:18, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

Are you sure this is vandalism? It's not clear to me. Toddst1 (talk) 17:48, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Probably best to reply on AIV as I'm not the only one asking this. Toddst1 (talk) 17:51, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Reply left there with a partial list of the most recent IPs, and the SPP. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 17:55, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Giannis Arabatzis

Thanks for the tip. I wont repeat it again in the future. Darth21 (talk) 15:58, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. :) Its also good to discuss article renames before implementing them, unless its to fix a spelling error or naming convention (and then that should be noted in the edit summary). -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 16:14, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

There is entry there that says:

  • Riku Sanjo (born 1964), Japanese mangaka konicha fou twa
What does "konicha fou twa" mean? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 18:02, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Umm...I have no idea...taking it backwards to kanji then running it through a translator comes up with zip so I'd remove it as nonsense. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 18:37, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to bother again

Are you doing the Fruits Basket on Wikiquote too?Mooncrest (talk) 20:11, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, I don't edit on Wikiquote. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 20:12, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Really? That's a surprise. You are usually active in anime/manga articles and stuff. :) Mooncrest (talk) 20:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can you help me with my userpage? It's really messy, especially the userboxes. Please and Thank you.Mooncrest (talk) 20:38, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What would you like to do with it? Wikipedia:User Page Design Center can help you learn how to work with the design.-- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 23:38, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Masters of horror

If you;re going to delet them all take it to AFD, don't do some sneaky redirect thing. Artw (talk) 23:55, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]