Talk:Cardiff Airport

Zoom Cardiff to Vancouver flights

There has been some discussion today over whether Zoom Airlines operate a scheduled service from Cardiff to Vancouver (as a seasonal route). There is no evidence of this route existing next summer or any time in the future on the Zoom Website. I have therefore removed any reference to this service on the airport page. A proper reference will need to be found if this destination is to be added here. SempreVolando (talk) 20:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

This route has now been added to the Zoom website and I have also added the start date and seasonal nature of the service to the destinations page. SempreVolando (talk) 16:21, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Removal of 2007 onwards section

I have removed the '2007 onwards' section which was written inappropriately (proseline) and contained many non-encyclopedic news-style items which do not belong on a Wikipedia page. As this is not a news service only noteworthy items have been retained and moved into the History section where they belong. SempreVolando (talk) 16:09, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Good job! --Cheesy Mike (talk) 17:22, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks CM, everyone please feel free to continue to edit and update the article, then perhaps we can get it to 'B' class on the quality scale. Shouldn't take too much more work. SempreVolando (talk) 01:43, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Flybe

Jersey is a new route for BE from cardiff but why have they not annouced it. You can book it on their website but can they expect many bookings with no announcment? By the way i may have missed the annoucment so sorry if i have. - Planenut321 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Planenut321 (talk • contribs) 09:42, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

You're right - there has been no announcement by Flybe or Cardiff Airport, even though tickets for this route have now gone on sale. It's strange to launch a route so quietly, perhaps they will announce it formally in the New Year. SempreVolando (talk) 14:49, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Application only at the moment, you have 14 days to complain before it is approved! - Flybe Limited to operate a scheduled air service between Cardiff and Jersy, The permit would be effective from 1 March 2008. [1] MilborneOne (talk) 15:16, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks MilborneOne, that explains why their Aberdeen and Doncaster routes show details "to be announced" in the Flybe press release, but they are selling tickets already on all three routes. SempreVolando (talk) 15:23, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Flyforbeans Routes

Sorry Planenut321 this page is for discussing the Cardif International Airport article it is not a forum. When the airline is licensed and announces routes then they will be added as appropriate. Perhaps you should ask at Talk:Flyforbeans. MilborneOne (talk) 20:28, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Please do not keep removing my comment above, it originally answered a comment by Planenut321 which he/she later deleted, although it would have been better to strike it out. Please read guidelines on talkpages about not deleting others comments. MilborneOne (talk) 11:25, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Excel

Do they still fly to cardiff? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Planenut321 (talk • contribs) 08:56, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

From what I can see they have no flying program at CWL for summer 2008 or into winter 2008 / 09. SempreVolando (talk) 13:34, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Major Airport Status

I do not believe Cardiff Airport is a major UK airport as this article previously stated. The airport is only the 19th largest in the UK and the major UK airports are Heathrow, Gatwick, Stansted and Manchester. All other airports are much smaller and are rightly not referred to as major UK airports on Wikipedia. Please do not change the current text for this article until as many of us as possible can contribute to this discussion and come to an agreement on the appropriate wording to use. Thank you. SempreVolando (talk) 16:14, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm not saying it's in line with those airports, I just think that the definition is wider. I'd consider Bristol, Cardiff, Edinburgh etc. major airports (in contrast to say Newquay, Plymouth, Durham Tees Valley) Welshleprechaun (talk) 16:20, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I still feel the wording major UK airport is misleading and gives it too much weight, suggesting an airport much bigger than this one. I would consider that wording along the lines of principal airport for Wales is adequate. The introduction to the article already emphasises the wide area the airport serves and that it is the only airport in Wales offering international flights, and I believe most people would interpret major UK airport as one of the largest in the UK, which it is not. I'd like to hear the opinions of other editors on this topic so we can reach consensus. SempreVolando (talk) 16:33, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Would you agree on a key UK airport or a large UK airport? Welshleprechaun (talk) 17:07, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I would rather wait for a few more opinions here, but if none are forthcoming in the next few days would be inclined to agree with a key UK airport. SempreVolando (talk) 18:15, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

As I dont agree that the term major UK airport, or even a large UK airport are factually correct I thought that is the main airport for Wales was a resonable comprise. MilborneOne (talk) 20:29, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Agree on "main airport for Wales". It certainly isn't a major or large airport. --Cheesy Mike (talk) 22:53, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

With no further opinions on this matter here I believe we have consensus that main airport for Wales is the sufficient and most proper statement. As the article already features this wording no change is necessary. SempreVolando (talk) 12:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Aer Arann

Do they still do the Cardiff-Galway and Nantes routes? Its not on their website anymore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Planenut321 (talk • contribs) 14:07, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Zoom Cardiff to Toronto route

IP User 213.210.40.35 continues to remove the seasonal note relating to this route, however the airline schedule ([2]) clearly shows the CWL-YYZ route is seasonal (May to October only). The route is therefore seasonal as it does not operate year-round. I have reverted the change, would the editor involved please discuss the issue here rather than continue to change the article. Thank you. SempreVolando (talk) 18:14, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Barcelona Is Back

WW are re starting the route in May! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.194.107 (talk) 20:48, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

And WILL SOMEONE STOP DELETING IT OF THE PAGE! IT IS STARTING! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.194.107 (talk) 19:37, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Route map

Cardiff International Airport Ltd. have no problem with this map appearing on Wikipedia. Pete (talk) 10:28, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

User who removed it has been warned. If it happens again, s/he will be reported Welshleprechaun (talk) 10:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Removed the route map as it is unclear and distorted even when enlarged. Suggest if a route map is needed a better quality one is sourced. It could also be deleted as it appears to have the wrong copyright as User:Planenut321 has claimed he holds the copyright but User:Peterphillips statement indicates it belongs to Cardiff airport. MilborneOne (talk) 11:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Agree with removal of the map, very poor quality which is not sufficient for encyclopedic standard. A much better map, like the one on the Edinburgh Airport page would be acceptable, but not this one. SempreVolando (talk) 11:47, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

But I do have copyright of it, as i created it! Planenut321 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Planenut321 (talk • contribs) 08:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I feel the map looks horrendous and does not do the article any justice at all, it would be nice to move it off the 'Start' class, but something like that cetainly would mean it would not.

Consensus here is clearly not to include this poor quality image on the page, however the IP user continues to refuse to discuss their point here and simply reverts any attempts to remove it. I have asked the user again to discuss the issue here. SempreVolando (talk) 18:11, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Well pretty much every airport page has a map like this, it may 'look horendous' to you but untill a new one could be found it should stay, cause i think it is an important part of the article. And you have had now problem with it until 1/2 year after its added.

Thomas Cook Airlines

An IP user has changed the name of Thomas Cook Airlines to Thomas Cook Airlines UK and has been reverted a number of times. Please note that Thomas Cook Airlines UK Limited is the name of the airline that has a Civil Aviation Authority Operating Licence and that the IP was changing it in good faith not vandalism. It is also useful to tell the difference between Thomas Cook Airlines Belgium and Thomas Cook Airlines Scandinavia. Perhaps editors can come to some consensus on this change and not keep reverting. Thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 18:58, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Well I think their trading name should be used. Plus it links to the UK airline page. What name is used on other airport pages from which it flies. Also I don't consider it good faith repeatedly reverting without giving reason. WL (talk) 21:20, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

First Choice and BH Air

Can Fanrail stop editing the new route from FCA to Caso- De Campo, if you go on thomsonfly.com you will see the route is operting for a while in 2009 with a FCA aircraft.

With BH air the flight to Varna does do via Borgous so please stop editing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Planenut321 (talk • contribs) 13:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Can I please state that the airport is officially called La Romana [LRM] and therefore this should be stated rather than Casa de Campo which is a resort close to the airport - we cannot justify placing resorts there instead of the official destination airport! added by User:fanrail 23 June

Thomas Cook - Antayla

This new route is listed on Mytravel.com, its new for summer 2009. Please dont remove.(Plaincrazy (talk) 14:23, 28 June 2008 (UTC))

AND on the other hand, Onur Air are starting the Antalya next month [seasonal]! So please do not delete this either - I am my own source of information, because I work at CWL!! (User:fanrailuk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.110.108.161 (talk) 20:54, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Please read WP:RS as to why you aren't a reliable source. Nouse4aname (talk) 20:59, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Whoever keeps removing it - I think you'll find that the Antalya route by Onur Air starts on 9 July and contunies every Wednesday until 24 September on behalf of Goldtrail holidays! - Sourcing the Summer 2008 timetable at cwlfly.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.110.108.161 (talk) 11:42, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

bmibaby's future

Can someone elighten me as to why a 'stirring' newspaper report about an airline cutting back in the winter [notably most airlines do this every winter] makes UK Airport News Info {was link 6} a reliable website for information regarding airlines'/airports' futures which, may I add, is affiliated with no official sources??

For this reason, I am removing the 'bmibaby is cutting back' section from the future until someone can provide actual proof, from a reliable source, that the airline is not doing what it normally does and addresses a shorter operating schedule for the winter?

Those in disagreeance or otherwise, please comment. fanrailuk (talk)

TNT

Shannon is a cargo destination from EGFF. On the fids it flies to Shannon about 4 times a week. So will Plaincrazy stop editing it.- Planenut321 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.115.202 (talk) 18:43, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes it does fly to SNN at the moment but it does not pick up any cargo from CWL to SNN, it just drops off as TNT dont have enough aircraft. If this is the case then why dont we add London Gatwick as a destination for Zoom airlines as this drops off passengers and then goes onto LGW without picking up pax from cwl (Plaincrazy (talk) 20:08, 17 July 2008 (UTC))

OHY Antalya

This route is not operating for Summer 2008, it is listed on the CWL timetable but has been cancelled by the tour operator. Please stop adding it back in. (Plaincrazy (talk) 20:10, 17 July 2008 (UTC))