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Does "the lack of proper training until the invention of seminaries led to illiterate priests" mean that the lack of proper training led to illiterate priests (what I would expect), or that the invention of seminaries led to illiterate priests (as it seems to read)? I don't know anything about this, but maybe: "until the invention of seminaries, the lack of proper training led to illiterate priests" would be clearer...? Msgarrett (talk) 04:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV problems

Historically, this article is misleading. It adopts an almost explicit post-Reformation perspective, treating the entire institution under discussion as some symptom of moral failure. Benefices were an important element of the medieval economy. Our modern squeamishness with the economic role of the medieval church shouldn't distort a normal feature of pre-16th-century Europe into "corruption" and "abuse." Let's put the POV complaints in Protestant Reformation or Counter Reformation, where they belong. 65.190.138.93 (talk) 15:23, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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 clearer...?
 [[User:Msgarrett|Msgarrett]] ([[User talk:Msgarrett|talk]]) 04:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
+== NPOV problems ==
+Historically, this article is misleading.  It adopts an almost explicit post-Reformation perspective, treating the entire institution under discussion as some symptom of moral failure.  Benefices were an important element of the medieval economy.  Our modern squeamishness with the economic role of the medieval church shouldn't distort a normal feature of pre-16th-century Europe into "corruption" and "abuse."  Let's put the POV complaints in [[Protestant Reformation]] or [[Counter Reformation]], where they belong. [[Special:Contributions/65.190.138.93|65.190.138.93]] ([[User talk:65.190.138.93|talk]]) 15:23, 1 September 2008 (UTC)