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How does [[Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties of India|this article]] look now after [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fundamental_Rights%2C_Directive_Principles_and_Fundamental_Duties_of_India&diff=24952798&oldid=24952212 my expansion]. I think it has more chance of being FA than [[Constitution of India]] right now. Plz check it out and tell me how you like it. Also remove cleanup and expand if you d\feel it's good enough.--May the Force be with you! [[User:Shreshth91|Shreshth91]]<small>[[User talk:Shreshth91|<font color=green>($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|)</font>]]</small> 05:44, 7 October 2005 (UTC) |
How does [[Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties of India|this article]] look now after [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fundamental_Rights%2C_Directive_Principles_and_Fundamental_Duties_of_India&diff=24952798&oldid=24952212 my expansion]. I think it has more chance of being FA than [[Constitution of India]] right now. Plz check it out and tell me how you like it. Also remove cleanup and expand if you d\feel it's good enough.--May the Force be with you! [[User:Shreshth91|Shreshth91]]<small>[[User talk:Shreshth91|<font color=green>($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|)</font>]]</small> 05:44, 7 October 2005 (UTC) |
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== A problem user. == |
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Hi if you wouldn't mind, could you help in resolving some issues? I thought I'd approach you as a third party who has knowledge on subcontinent topics. I did approach a mediator but he suggest a level below mediation like Request for Comment or third party. So as third party to this problem (complex) I'm requesting your help. |
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The issue is particularly pertaining to [[User:Anonymous editor]] who seems to first delete all my information posted many India/Pakistan related articles (especially some disputed ones). As you'd have known, I have to the best of my knowledge not presented any controversial statements which are not backed with neutral sources or in the case of Pakistan related articles, Pakistani sources. Few, if any, statements or opinions on these articles are added by me which come only from one side but a good combination of neutral, pak and indian authors. I shall mention case by case the issue with "anonymous editor" |
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===Resolved ones (Just for historical background)=== |
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1. [[Kargil War]] where he tried to delete statements on Pakistani infiltration before the other authors, including me pointed out the sources and I had to point out the "exact pages" in the website that was already given as source. Instead of using the talk page he just goes and deletes. |
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2. [[Pervez Musharraf]] article where he tried to remove statements from pak authors and neutral webpages that said that the general was involved in kargil planning and his failed attempt in 1987 to capture [[Siachen Glacier]] |
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===Problem ones (ongoing issues)=== |
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These are the issues with which I'm having especially since he '''does not read the sources given''' and expects me to quote the exact lines each and every time. Initially I did this and quoted but he just fails to listen to reason and I've run out of patience. He also fails to respond to personal messages and just deletes them from his talk page frustrating me. |
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1. [[Terrorism in Pakistan]] where i quoted a reference and he removed it and accuses me of POV. then i added a neutral/pak source still he reverts it to his view and again fails to give any reason other than "POV" despite me presenting facts backed by pak authors he deletes them. I can accept changes to the wording to provide NPOV but he outrightly deletes them and if you see the talk page of this article, he uses words like "limited ability" to abuse me. He also said that "it is very likely that he made it up." commenting on the intro line where it states "90% of all reported terrorist activities worldwide were located in Pakistan" which was taken from a Pakistan source mentioned clearly. I may have bias which I'm unaware of but I'm certainly not a liar. Is there any policy that states that I should mention the exact line numbers of a book in Wikipedia? |
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2. [[State terrorism]] (Pakistan subsection) Here too he deleted some of my statements backed by proof (instead of removing any POV if he saw in it). For eg. The statement on the balochistan issue was backed by some letters to the [[UN]] and I can provide more sources from baloch oriented sites. I feel that it should either go here or in [[Genocides in history]]. Either way it doesn't seem to matter since he refuses to read the source and deletes it. While the baloch issue would be a genocide as per UN statement (Balochs say state terrorism also is involved) I'm afraid that wherever I include it, he would promptly delete it and accuse me of adding POV statements. [http://www.unhchr.ch/minorities/statements/balochistan2.doc This Document] among others show the facts. Also he hates to link in [[Operation Searchlight]] as part of the Pakistan state terrorism or the hamoodur rahman report. this despite his adding of dubious sources to back "state terrorism" in assam and the riots in punjab and "military occupation" in gujarat (godhra riots which he thinks was some military campaign showing his questionable knowledge on these issues). |
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===My errors=== |
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I admit I also made a few errors like not starting a talk page earlier and settling them, since I was convinced that this person wouldn't respond after my personal messages to his account were simply deleted by him. Also I made requests to state exactly what his reasons were for reverting which he simply quotes as POV in the comment line. Despite this I asked him to use the talk page and initiate a dialogue - which he didn't and I later started. I also tagged [[Terrorism in Kashmir]] as being biased both ways but he kept reverting it to pro indian bias only. This was despite addressing all his issues sketched out in the talk page and sourcing the questionable lines in the article with neutral sources. instead of being satisfied he went ahead and added totallydisputed tag. I don't mind the tag but it shows he's only to tag and argue without solving (atleast I think). I also admit I wasn't really polite but never used any personal attacks despite his irritating behaviour. he tries to subtly abuse me using words like "limited ability" when it's clear he never reads any of the sources given. Finally I should have done something earlier instead of involving myself in stupid edit/revert wars with him as the history shows. Maybe at that time I was so pissed off that I just decided to revert. '''But never have I added factually inaccurate statements''' that was not made by a known neutral source or Pakistani source (for Pak related articles, to present the enemy viewpoint). |
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I think this would have been the longest message someone might have sent you. Actually there are a lot more but i didn't want to bore you any further. If you feel that this is beyond you it's ok but do let me know if you'd just provide a third opinion (1st stage of dispute resolution seems futile) on this issue since he is impeding me from editing articles productively and taking it forward. If you think that maybe I'm wrong, crazy or i've spent too much time in wikipedia :) then pl. tell me so since I'm open to ideas and facts unlike many. And Thanx for reading this far. Cheers. [[User:Idleguy|Idleguy]] 17:07, 7 October 2005 (UTC) |
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DN pic
Thanks a lot for the DN pic .--Pamri • Talk 12:22, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Featured article candidates
Hi Nichalp. I don't know how to fix this, but it looks to me like someone has accidentally nominated Norse mythology along with another article, Sephiroth_(Final_Fantasy_VII). There's a whole of comments dating to December 2004 for the Norse mythology article which looks like a failed nomination, followed by several comments including one from you dated today. Could you please have a look at it. I think it just needs to be archived but I'm not sure how to do that. Thanks. Rossrs 13:29, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- forget it. I can see what's happened. It's a very unconventional way to renominate something, but I've noticed the original message. Sorry about that! Rossrs 13:34, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- thanks Nichalp. Rossrs 14:41, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- forget it. I can see what's happened. It's a very unconventional way to renominate something, but I've noticed the original message. Sorry about that! Rossrs 13:34, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Cricket and Latin
Hi Nichalp. I am going to get round to writing a Latin cricket stub at one point! The trouble is that all the words are necessarily neologisms. All I can suggest is to make it cricet cricetis third declension feminine, but I am by no means certain that that would be appropriate. gryllus grylli (second neuter) is the term for the insect, but that probably doesn't translate. The English etymology is from the Anglo-Saxon word creag meaning crooked, so I guess the Latin word uncus would also work. I'll have another word with a Classics master who's a big cricket fan on Monday. Cheers, [[Sam Korn]] 15:39, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- You'd be more likely to say "cricket" est ludus atleticus (no "h") plerumque visus in antecedente imperium brittonum, which means "cricket is an outdoor sport mostly seen in the former empire of the British". Would that do? [[Sam Korn]] 17:07, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
My RFA
Thank you very much for your vote on my RFA, it is now one of the most supported RFA ever, and it couldnt have happened without your vote. I look forward to serving wikipedia. Again, thanks. →Journalist >>talk<< 16:39, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Congrats
To Nichalp, pamri, Saksham and all other editors, congrats for the economy of India article featuring today. BTW, it seems the articles are scheduled to feature on appropriate dates. Very Nice. VivekM 00:28, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you for the nice comments. :) User:Nichalp/sg 17:57, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Completing article on-Kumar Shri Duleepsinhji
Dores-Kumar_Shri_Duleepsinhji.jpg photo uploaded in Wiki catgegory cricket. Shall upload in commons also. QIM in Swedish language is not put in, as it appears.Pl check. Trying to complete another article on Power Station Eqipment. You intend to remove the photos from QIM english?
--222.153.110.150 06:04, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Admin status
Just wanted clarification... I got sysop status the moment you posted that message on my talk page, or was it a seperate action? - RoyBoy 800 07:28, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks you very much for the promotion. Ive decided not tp carry out any admin functions until I have read and understood all the admin policies. →Journalist >>talk<< 16:10, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
B-Day
- Hey cool! Thanks a lot for the birthday wishes. See you around. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 17:49, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
My RfA!
My dear Nichalp, I've been sitting in front of the comp staring blankly when it came to thank you for your support and your kind words towards me on my RfA. The reason is, I can't find the words. I feel silly, but hey, how would you feel if a wiki legend supports you? And the bureaucrat of RfA, no less? I guess I'll just let the sillyness slip away and openly thank you for your trust and your praising to me. You're an extremely talented person, and I only hope that my future works please you. You'll always have a wiki-friend in Spain. Warmest hugs, Shauri Yes babe? 00:06, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
SV- QIM
Image done in commons now. But for the license we have to select one in the list and does not allow pasting cc-by-sa-2.5. I have done it after opening the image afer uploading. The sv:Quit India Movement when open does not appear to show the complete article as in En. Hence I got doubt. Probably complete article is not there. I can embed the other images. Where? at the bottom?
--Dore chakravarty 07:41, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Regarding the bot code
It would be better if you just zipped up the archive and send it to me via email. I can then send you the final code for your bot after seeing your final version of your csv file. Thanks for the barnstar. --AllyUnion (talk) 06:19, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Customised script
Try pasting User:Lupin/nichalpCustomLinks into your monobook.js. Lupin|talk|popups 12:52, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Re: Chess Puzzle
Ah, that puzzle. Yes, I'm familiar with it, and I've even come down to a situation like that in a game — unfortunately, on the wrong side.
1. c6 ... bxc6 (otherwise white can just cxb7 next turn and then queen)
2. b6 ... axb6 (otherwise any other move by black, white can advance)
3. a6 ... ... (white has clear path to queen)
I think I did the notation right, but it's a simple case of sacrificing an extra pawn so that one of your pawns has a clear path. And because white's closer to the end, a queen will come before black even gets close to queening. Thanks for the puzzle! :-) Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 13:39, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
- Really? I could have sworn I got that right, but maybe my skills are wearing off... (I read about this example in a chess book a year or two ago...) Can you tell me what I did wrong (i.e. play black and tell me how you can block white?) Thanks! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 15:57, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
- Whoops! It should be:
1. b6 ... cxb6 (or axb6)
2. a6 ... bxa6
3. c6 ... clear path to queenhood...
- I think that's right... Thanks! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 18:35, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
The pawn? Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 18:46, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
- Hmm... I thought the pawn could promote into any piece (rook, queen, bishop, knight) besides king and pawn. Am I wrong? Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 18:56, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
- Alright, I'm stumped. What is it? Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 19:15, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks
For your support on my RfA. Have a barnstar for your endeavors on Wikipedia:
Take care, Molotov (talk) 19:13, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Award
Thanks very much for the encouragement award. Trying to see how to exhibit. Help: how to delete my jpg files, keeping only the png files, from the image list? Probably it can be done only by administrators.
--Dore chakravarty 20:28, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Award
Attached now. I have one photo(1957) of The place where Lord Krishna is supposed to have relinquished his body, known as Bhalka Tirth in Saurashtra (Gujarat) near Veraval. This has name boards on the tree as shown in photo. I failed to find a place to attach this photo as there are contrary details. Pl see http://tourism-of-india.com/somnath.html and http://www.gujaratplus.com/web/gujarat/info/pilgrim/pilgrim2.html and opine. Photo not uploaded.
I have two more photos of Dhakore temple God being Ranchodji, near Anand in Saurashtra(Gujasrat).The story goes that this is the God idol taken out of waetr after piuercing with sticks to find out the place it is dumped. This piercing has injured the God all round. Hence name Ran Chod Ji. Photo not attached. Upload under what categories??
Can you help please?
--Dore chakravarty 05:30, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Dakore temple
Further information is as follows. Dakor - This temple town dedicated to Lord Krishna is situated about 90 Kms. from Ahmedabad. The temple of Ranchodrai has the idol of Lord Krishna which is believed to have been brought from Dwarka by a devotee. http://www.gujaratgifts.com/gujinfo/temples.htm
Puzzle
Sorry 'bout that, I had to run an errand, and it slipped my mind. Well, it's certainly an interesting one, though it could be argued both ways — a bishop is a bishop is a bishop, regardless of whether it is the "black squares" bishop or a "white squares" bishop. Therefore, one could argue that your question was too ambigious. However, others could say that that proves the strength and trickiness of your question. Personally, I won't debate the merits of your question, but I'll say it was challenging - and fun! Thanks! On a separate note, Nichalp, have you considered running in this year's ArbCom election? You would make an ideal candidate, since you're so qualified. I encourage you to give it some thought. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 13:00, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
- OK then, but keep at the good work at producing FAs! I expect no less than 8 featured articles a month from you... ;-) Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 23:12, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Your request-elobrate
Thanks. Better let me try myself without disturbing you. Shall approach you when needed.
--Dore chakravarty 20:02, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
elaborate
Tried myself. Created new page Gujarat in Commons and uploaded 3 photos under category Gujarat. Thinking to create new article in wiki or searching existing articles for embedding the photos now uploaded. Any suggestions after seeing the work done.
--Dore chakravarty 02:02, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Belgium
I have resubmitted Belgium for peer review. Do you think the objections you gave the last time it was FAC have been correctly addressed? If no, don't hesitate to let me know. Vb 16:09, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Categories
Thanks. Added Category Gujarat temples. Created new talk page on Prabhas Patan. Not sure whether ok and also the wordings, being first time for this type. Not added name. Opinion and suggestions please.
--Dore chakravarty 21:33, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
DYK
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Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Farkhor Air Base, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
Official Languages of Bhutan
On the Bhutan talk page you said that English and Nepali are official languages as is Dzongkha. Could you provide me with an additional source that says that English and Nepali. The main purpose I am trying to find this information is for the list of official languages by state page. Thanks. – Zntrip 05:28, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
How does this article look now after my expansion. I think it has more chance of being FA than Constitution of India right now. Plz check it out and tell me how you like it. Also remove cleanup and expand if you d\feel it's good enough.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 05:44, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
A problem user.
Hi if you wouldn't mind, could you help in resolving some issues? I thought I'd approach you as a third party who has knowledge on subcontinent topics. I did approach a mediator but he suggest a level below mediation like Request for Comment or third party. So as third party to this problem (complex) I'm requesting your help.
The issue is particularly pertaining to User:Anonymous editor who seems to first delete all my information posted many India/Pakistan related articles (especially some disputed ones). As you'd have known, I have to the best of my knowledge not presented any controversial statements which are not backed with neutral sources or in the case of Pakistan related articles, Pakistani sources. Few, if any, statements or opinions on these articles are added by me which come only from one side but a good combination of neutral, pak and indian authors. I shall mention case by case the issue with "anonymous editor"
Resolved ones (Just for historical background)
1. Kargil War where he tried to delete statements on Pakistani infiltration before the other authors, including me pointed out the sources and I had to point out the "exact pages" in the website that was already given as source. Instead of using the talk page he just goes and deletes.
2. Pervez Musharraf article where he tried to remove statements from pak authors and neutral webpages that said that the general was involved in kargil planning and his failed attempt in 1987 to capture Siachen Glacier
Problem ones (ongoing issues)
These are the issues with which I'm having especially since he does not read the sources given and expects me to quote the exact lines each and every time. Initially I did this and quoted but he just fails to listen to reason and I've run out of patience. He also fails to respond to personal messages and just deletes them from his talk page frustrating me.
1. Terrorism in Pakistan where i quoted a reference and he removed it and accuses me of POV. then i added a neutral/pak source still he reverts it to his view and again fails to give any reason other than "POV" despite me presenting facts backed by pak authors he deletes them. I can accept changes to the wording to provide NPOV but he outrightly deletes them and if you see the talk page of this article, he uses words like "limited ability" to abuse me. He also said that "it is very likely that he made it up." commenting on the intro line where it states "90% of all reported terrorist activities worldwide were located in Pakistan" which was taken from a Pakistan source mentioned clearly. I may have bias which I'm unaware of but I'm certainly not a liar. Is there any policy that states that I should mention the exact line numbers of a book in Wikipedia?
2. State terrorism (Pakistan subsection) Here too he deleted some of my statements backed by proof (instead of removing any POV if he saw in it). For eg. The statement on the balochistan issue was backed by some letters to the UN and I can provide more sources from baloch oriented sites. I feel that it should either go here or in Genocides in history. Either way it doesn't seem to matter since he refuses to read the source and deletes it. While the baloch issue would be a genocide as per UN statement (Balochs say state terrorism also is involved) I'm afraid that wherever I include it, he would promptly delete it and accuse me of adding POV statements. This Document among others show the facts. Also he hates to link in Operation Searchlight as part of the Pakistan state terrorism or the hamoodur rahman report. this despite his adding of dubious sources to back "state terrorism" in assam and the riots in punjab and "military occupation" in gujarat (godhra riots which he thinks was some military campaign showing his questionable knowledge on these issues).
My errors
I admit I also made a few errors like not starting a talk page earlier and settling them, since I was convinced that this person wouldn't respond after my personal messages to his account were simply deleted by him. Also I made requests to state exactly what his reasons were for reverting which he simply quotes as POV in the comment line. Despite this I asked him to use the talk page and initiate a dialogue - which he didn't and I later started. I also tagged Terrorism in Kashmir as being biased both ways but he kept reverting it to pro indian bias only. This was despite addressing all his issues sketched out in the talk page and sourcing the questionable lines in the article with neutral sources. instead of being satisfied he went ahead and added totallydisputed tag. I don't mind the tag but it shows he's only to tag and argue without solving (atleast I think). I also admit I wasn't really polite but never used any personal attacks despite his irritating behaviour. he tries to subtly abuse me using words like "limited ability" when it's clear he never reads any of the sources given. Finally I should have done something earlier instead of involving myself in stupid edit/revert wars with him as the history shows. Maybe at that time I was so pissed off that I just decided to revert. But never have I added factually inaccurate statements that was not made by a known neutral source or Pakistani source (for Pak related articles, to present the enemy viewpoint).
I think this would have been the longest message someone might have sent you. Actually there are a lot more but i didn't want to bore you any further. If you feel that this is beyond you it's ok but do let me know if you'd just provide a third opinion (1st stage of dispute resolution seems futile) on this issue since he is impeding me from editing articles productively and taking it forward. If you think that maybe I'm wrong, crazy or i've spent too much time in wikipedia :) then pl. tell me so since I'm open to ideas and facts unlike many. And Thanx for reading this far. Cheers. Idleguy 17:07, 7 October 2005 (UTC)