User talk:Wonderlane

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Hello, Wonderlane! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Gimme danger (talk) 00:05, 4 February 2009 (UTC) Getting started A tutorial • Our five pillars • Getting mentored How to: edit a page • upload and use images Getting help Frequently asked questions • Tips Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and guidelines Neutral point of view • No original research Verifiability • Reliable sources • Citing sources What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons Manual of Style • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Policy for non-free content • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The community Build consensus • Resolve disputes Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • No legal threats Community Portal • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists Writing articles Be bold in editing • Develop an article The perfect article • Manual of style Stubs • Categories • Disambiguation Pages needing attention • Peer review Miscellaneous User name • User pages • Talk pages Clean up: General • Spam • Vandalism Join a WikiProject • Translation Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

February 2009

Please remember to mark your edits, such as your recent edits to Sakya, as minor if (and only if) they genuinely are minor edits (see Help:Minor edit). Marking a major change as a minor one is considered poor etiquette. The rule of thumb is that only an edit that consists solely of spelling corrections, formatting changes, or rearranging of text without modifying content should be flagged as a 'minor edit.' Thank you. Gimme danger (talk) 00:06, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Gimme danger,

I made several edits, the first not marked as minor, but then I marked my own edits as minor, I did not change any in the Sakya Now area.

I did make an edit on a different section which was a political comment, no matter how sad the comment, it is not information. Perhaps that is the section you mean. Is there a way to change that comment?

Obviously I am just learning the ropes.

Wonderlane (talk) 00:35, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

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Howdee I am not writing an ad, I am trying to create an article about a Buddhist Monastery in Seattle, Washington about which there are several books published and a large membership. Is there some other way to do it? Every time I start it is deleted. The other Sakya Monastery article is so poorly written about the one in China that I didn't want to edit it in fear of making someone angry. Please advise. I have read the intro page, I also asked Sakya Monastery of Tibetan Buddhism in Seattle change their copyright to Creative Commons just so this article could be written. Wonderlane (talk) 02:26, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

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Hello there. What do you need help with? Until It Sleeps 02:35, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I read the how you start - so I started a page with just the facts about the first, largest Tibetan Buddhist monastery in the US but it was being deleted as I wrote it.

How do I start? The Sakya Monastery page which exists is terrible - Chinese - I just want to write one about Sakya Monastery of Tibetan Buddhism in Seattle, Washington, USA. I live in San Mateo, California.

Please advise.

PS I also asked Sakya Monastery of Tibetan Buddhism in Seattle change their copyright to Creative Commons just so this article could be written. Which they did.

In my opinion the article was improperly deleted, as it was done under Section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion which is only for articles on real persons, organizations (e.g. band, club, company, etc.), or web content. A monastery has arguably an organizational nature, but it's also a place, a complex of buildings etc. In any event, write the article at a subpage (such as /Sakya Monastery of Tibetan Buddhism <---just click on that and start writing; in fact, I'm gong to place the deleted content there for you to get started) and when you are ready to "go live", move it to the main space. It's a very good idea to cite sources verifying the content. If you need help with that, do not hesitate to ask me on my talk page.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:49, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

^{(Edit conflict X2)}Well, unless that particular Monastery is very notable, or it's been in the news a lot, then I would not suggest posting an article about it, as it would not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. If it has, you can always start a sub page of your user space and write it up and work on it there until it's ready for inclusion in the article space. You can do this by going to User:Wonderlane/Sakya Monastery of Tibetan Buddhism in Seattle or type whatever name of article you wish after the slash. Note that this name does not have the exact same name as the article itself. You could to User:Wonderlane/article sandbox, User:Wonderlane/sandbox, or anything you want.

Also, the article you wish to create needs sufficient references in order to comply with Wikipedia's verifiability policy. It is also helpful to add internal links, or "Wikilinks" into the article that relate to the subject itself. It is also a good idea to improve the main article that already exists as well. Hope this helps. Cheers! - Until It Sleeps 02:56, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Let's see - its the first, the largest, the most notable Tibetan Buddhist monastery in the US. The film "Little Buddha" by Umberto Bertolucci starring Bridget Fonda and Keanu Reeves was filmed there. The first Tibetan American born in the US is from the Sakya family and is a prominant teacher there.

There are several books about the lamas who have taught there, and the one that co-founded it, Dezhung Rinpoche III "A Saint in Seattle, the story of the Tibetan Mystic Dezhung Rinpoche" by David Jackson. http://www.amazon.com/Saint-Seattle-Tibetan-Dezhung-Rinpoche/dp/0861713966

His reincarnation is the first Tibetan-American White bi-racial lama born in the US. Little Buddha the film is in fact in part based on his life story (and that of the Khyentses). Several books by scholars mention this monastery, or refer to it due to the Lamdre and Hevajra tantra (First Tibetan Tantra translated into English). There are 206 books which mention Sakya Monastery on Amazon's site alone - http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Sakya+Monastery - including one co-authored by a founders wife - her autobiography - http://www.shambhala.com/html/catalog/items/isbn/978-1-57062-691-3.cfm

Dezhung Rinpoche's mother Caroline Massey was featured on Oprah when it was decided Dezhung Rinpoche IV should be raised in Nepal at his old monastery there and attend Sakya College in India. I loved her quotes "What makes you believe that you are the only ones who can love your children?" and "We are talking about ultimate enlightenment here and you are worried about going to the prom?" "The Boy on the Throne," producer Dianne Atkinson Hudson, Oprah, Harpo Productions, ABC, March 17, 1998

The Sakya family is one of the few royal Buddhist lineages left on earth, and the only Tibetan Royal family.

There are hundreds of thousands of articles since the whole reason the family was brought to the US so the Rockefeller Foundation could study their tradition.

But if you really don't think that the foundation, the films, the books, the rulership of Tibet is enough, if that is your advice, I'll take your advice I will respect it.