Talk:Racism

afrophobia vs. afrophilia

on the opposite end of the spectrum of anti-semitism is philo-semitism (a love of all things jewish.) similary white racism against asians (yellow peril) is contrasted with white love of all things asian (asia-philia). i am no scholar on the subject, but shouldn't there be discussion in this article, or a link to, the opposite of afrophobia? (clearly the other forms of white racism i've mentioned can be best understood by examining both sides of the coin, the black experience is no different). again, i am no position to write the article i'm advocating, but here are some sources for those more capable than i. http://books.google.com/books?q=afrophilia&btnG=Search+Books

Uncyclopedic

"Academic racism was pushed by white supremacists during the period when white people garnered great profits from slavery and colonialism"

And indeed discovered the obvious differences between themselves and the negroid peoples.De percy (talk) 02:32, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

White people? All white people enjoyed profits from slavery and colonialism? please —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.227.42.150 (talk) 18:25, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

As did the colored people! De percy (talk) 08:54, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Slavery and colonialism has indeed been prevelant all throughout human history. There is nothing new here. Europeans at the time were merely interested in the survival and prevalence of the fittest, and doing the best that they could for their particular group of people in an extremely competetive New World atmosphere. If the Negro in Africa had been as capable, he too would have done precisely the same, as he himself practiced tribal forms of slavery throughout Africa.216.78.60.196 (talk) 10:43, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Anti-White Racism

Why is there a section of this article devoted to this? Most racism is perpetuated by whites, and as far as Whites being the second largest group of victims of racist attacks would seem to have more to do with their proportion of the population. It just seems as if this is some sympathetic getsure to show "look we (Whites)are victims too." I personally have not had any white friend discuss experiencing racism to me to but I am only one person.: – — … ‘ “ ’ ” ° ″ ′ ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ± − × ÷ ← → · § Jaesi25 (talk) 19:50, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Most rascism in the western world is purpetuated by whites, yes, but that does not mean whites do not experience quite a bit of rascism themselves. It needs discussing in the article becuase it's not well known about yet it is present.--Patton123 20:08, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Um, if it is not well known about, that means we need more research. But Wikipedia is not a venue for original research. Any discussion of racism against Whites has to be based on significant views from notable, Verifiable, and reliable sources. And if such views do exist, by all means, they have to be included in this article, NPOV demands it. Slrubenstein | Talk 20:30, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes there is a well-referenced section on anti-white rascism in the article. He just wants it removed.--Patton123 17:55, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

The anti-white racism section needs to be ENLARGED not removed. This is a very common phenomenon. T.R. 87.59.78.120 (talk) 21:01, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

yess de president is barwak obama!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.203.68.57 (talk) 21:58, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. Anti-white racism is prevalent all around the world, asianracism.blogspot.com documents some cases of racism between different ethnic groups, and against 'whites'. That's just one little blog that posts up articles from other places. However, the broader picture is that 'white' people do indeed face racism and discrimination on a daily basis - this is well documented, even if under-researched due to various political factors in western countries. That said, it's real, it exists and there is no reason not to document it and reference it. The section should remain and be enlarged with relevant cited material. 121.79.19.4 (talk) 21:20, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree that there should a section dedicated to the subject of anti-White racism. However why is it on the general page of racism? There is no other dedicated section on this general page to any other forms of racism directed to any particular group. The anti-White section should be moved onto its own page, consistent with the current system as other ethnicities have their own pages as well. Transcendence (talk) 19:30, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Self-Racist???

Just wondering if anyone knows what the term is when a person is racist against their own race? I know this kind of racism exists however what i can't find is a the name for it nor can i find much information about it through search engines. If anyone could let me know that would be great and might make an interesting addition to this wikipedia entry —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.210.18.1 (talk) 11:28, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

This type of person is typically referred to as "self hating." 216.78.60.196 (talk) 10:42, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Defining Racism

It's not simply a belief that your race is superior to other. Racism is a philosophy imposed by society; Racism is.. is a cycle created by the misinformation provided by the media, institutions, and society in general. This leads to "racist" views- the that the oppressed people are inferior, that they are somehow as a people not as "thoughtful" or as "pure" as whites ( I say white simply because I do not know of any society in which whites are not at the top of the "power pyramid".. or call it what you will) So yes, blacks can be racists, society can and does poison you against your own people. And no, reverse racism is a contradiction not because racism is racism, it's because you can not BE racist against whites, you can descriminate based on race, but that is not racist, racism must be discrimination that is based throughout society, not just within a certain portion of it.

Also...

I would like to see a "cultural" racism section, and also a "individual" racism section

I recently attended a Anti Racism training, and these are the terms they used. They call it the "racism iceberg" - the type of racism that we see in everyday life but this is caused at the root by instutional racism. Institutional racism leads to a culture that contains racist concepts, which leads to individual acts of racism as racism becomes acceptable. SkymanUU

Racism in France: POV

In France, home to Europe’s largest population of Muslims — about 6 million — as well as the continent’s largest community of Jews, about 600,000, anti-Jewish violence, property destruction, and racist language has been wildly increasing over the last several years and French-Jews are worried more every month that it will spiral even higher. Jewish leaders perceive as intensifying anti-Semitism in France, mainly among Muslims of Arab or African heritage, but also growing among Caribbean islanders from former colonies.[84][85]

That's the only few lines about racism in France. It may remain as short as this in such a general article, but the content is not representative at all.

This paragraph may be true, and may take part of a bigger article, but writting it alone makes the reader think racism in France is only about Arab people over Jewish people, which is totally wrong. With such an isolated paragraph, I felt like reading a standard right-wing anti-French Israeli newspaper. I don't want to put an opposite POV neither, but there's a few basic and objective things to say about racism in France in some lines:

• quite widespread racism among popular French against African people (See Front National)
• as the current article says, racism among African and Caribean people against the Jews (mostly in Paris)
• some very isolated and rare extremist groups (Neo Nazis: hate everyones but themselves)

I'm not a specialist about this question, neither a good writter, so I won't correct it on my own. The current content is just chocking to a "Caucasian" French, as my personnal experience in my "real life" is very different from what's described here.

Sylvain --81.202.203.92 (talk) 23:39, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Write up a paragraph with a couple of sentences for each bullet-point, and provide complete and appropriate sources (see our WP:V, WP:RS, and [[WP:CS] and just make sure you comply with it. Put it here, and I will happily fix up the prose so it reads well and put it in.Slrubenstein | Talk 00:17, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Tribalism

Perhaps a paragraph about the relationship between tribalism and racism would be useful. G.D. Clayton Bigsby (talk) 00:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

scottish - english racism?

over the years scots have peformed raceism against english people living in scotland, similar things happen in wales to the english. 84.64.14.35 (talk) 22:05, 7 February 2009 (UTC)