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WELCOME

Welcome to my chittychat page. I welcome dialogue and discourse. I do not have as much time to dedicate to Wikipedia as I have fortunately had in the past. Waxing lyrical: I will continue my involvement and presence in this emergent self-governing complex adaptive system, the monoleth that is Wikipedia; albeit in a less intensive fashion. Why? The iteration and mapping of knowledges and the dialogic and developmental relationships forded by forums, tools and networks (such as Wikipedia), is central and key to the egalitarianism and sapience of my core values. The wiki, the instrument, tool or machine, the veritable stone and bedrock within which Wikipedia is set, finds its metaphoric extension or corrolate in the Yantra of the Sanskritic tradition. Yantra, like a wiki, is an instrument to capture, channel, focus, cultivate, associate, transport and transmute signal, energy and information in a collaborative, inclusive reticular forum. Yantra and wiki marry and unite that which is disparate: Something old, something new, something borrowed, something...blue.
Blessings and Godspeed.
B9 hummingbird hovering^{(talk • contribs)} 12:42, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chittychat post March 28 2008

Your Opinion Please?

Hello, can you take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_breese and put in your vote to keep or delete, I am rather outnumbered by some non-spiritual people, could use someone who has a co-operative energy to look into the matter on a spiritual teacher article. Also please look into another article that was deleted that has been there for years at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_metaphysical_sciences but was deleted by a user as soon as I linked to it. Thanx (SpiritBeing (talk) 09:30, 16 July 2008 (UTC)SpiritBeing)[reply]

Re: ThanX

Well, that is simple, ain't it? Just as any wikilink, sort of like this. Is this what you were referring to? :) Mspraveen (talk) 07:46, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Wikimedia Australia incorporation meeting

Dear Wikimedian,

I am writing to you as your named is listed at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Australia under "People interested in helping to create a local chapter". Wikimedia Australia's draft rules have been approved by the Wikimedia Foundation, and we now intend to incorporate in the state of Victoria. You are hereby informed of the intention to hold a Wikimedia Australia meeting on 20th April 2008 with the intention to

(a) authorize a person who has attained the age of 18 years and who is resident in the State to incorporate Wikimedia Australia under the Victorian Associations Incorporation Act 1981; [that is, elect a Public Officer] (b) approve a proposed statement of purposes of Wikimedia Australia; and (c) approve the proposed rules of Wikimedia Australia.

A majority of members must vote to pass the motion to incorporate as an association, for it to meet the requirements of the Act.

The proposed rules, and proposed statement of purpose, can be found here:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Australia/Draft_Rules_for_Wikimedia_Australia_Inc

Details of the incorporation meeting, including local meetings (to be joined up by teleconferencing, with any luck) and the agenda, can be found here:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Australia/Incorporation

In particular, you are invited to attend the Melbourne meeting:

Time: 3pm
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RSVP (optional): at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Australia/Incorporation/Melbourne or http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=12283635078

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Hinduism/Vaishnavism

FYI, there is now a Vaishnava project located at Wikipedia:WikiProject Hinduism/Vaishnavism. Any Vaishnava related discussions can be listed here, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Hinduism/Vaishnavism. Any edits or comments you have would be appreciated. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 21:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Substantial edits at the Dorje Shugden article

Dear editor I like to draw your attention to that specific article, Dorje Shugden, which was substantially changed by a group of three new editors, without any discussion on the talk page. Rather one of the new editor revealed: "Many of these changes were discussed between at least three of the editors." which must have happened outside of WP, because there is no discussion on the talk page or their WP-accounts. One of the new editors claimed: "You seem to be the only person who accepted this article as it was. If you check you will see that the changes made make this article more neutral and unbiased then it was before previous edits." If I check I see the article omitted different POV's, deleted verified passages, included passages from anonymous websites and turned the article to a more bias Pro-Shugden POV. I'd like to ask you to check that and to give your opinion or to collaborate if there is a need for improving the article, so that we can have an unbiased, neutral, well-informed article which fairly presents all POV's. Thank you very much, --Kt66 (talk) 19:33, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

invite

Join WikiProject Krishnaism

How should the Krishna-centered traditions of Hinduism should be represented?

Help us improve related to Krishna-worship!
We need to talk it over!
Ready to join? See the project page, and add your name to the list of participants.

Join WikiProject Krishnaism. There are many traditions where Krishna is worshiped and His names revered. The purpose of this project is to join forces and create more beautiful and well sourced articles. The traditions are not limited to one or two; there are many and all should be given equal attention. Leave a few words here and we will discuss it further.

TfD: Template:VaishnavaSampradayasrs

I have nominated Template:VaishnavaSampradayasrs for deletion as suggested. Please comment and support/oppose the nomination there. Thanks --Shruti14 ^{t c s} 01:22, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Trailokya

Hi B9 -

I hope you don't mind but I tried to better integrate your recent addition to Trailokya into the existing article, mainly by:

moving the Tibetan term ('khams-gsum) to a revamped opening parenthetical list of non-Sanskrit terms
moving the translation(s) ("three planes of existence" as well as "three realms") to a revamped list of alternate translations
moving specifics to the source (Berzin archives) to an end note
removing subheader of "Nomenclature, orthography and etymology"

The main basis for my changes was the format of several other WP Buddhism articles (though I guess another alternative would be to use template:Buddhist_term). If you disagree with any of these changes, please feel free to contact me on my talk page or Talk:Trailokya and, of course, if you like, feel free to revert. (No offense will be taken.)

I hope you are well,

Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 20:15, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I apologize if I placed the term "Wylie" in a way that you find wrong-headed. Please correct if you are so inclined. Also, did you previously add the Purucker and Blavatsy references? If so, are these actually one and the same? If not, is there a specific place where Purucker is used? Thanks, Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 20:17, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I very much appreciate the thoughtful and helpful response. I'll keep the blogspot article in my queue. Best wishes, Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 15:05, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject System

Thanks for supporting the WikiProject Systems. I noticed you mentioned the term Cognitive systems theory. It should be interesting to write an article about that? -- Marcel Douwe Dekker (talk) 17:43, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Commending your new article

Hello! I was doing New Page Patrol this morning and I came upon your new article for Bshad pa dang cha mthun gyi rgyud tantra sde bco brgyad. I just wanted to take a moment to commend you on the fine article and to thank you for bringing it to Wikipedia. Peace be with you. Ecoleetage (talk) 12:45, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ishta-deva vs. yidam

Greetings. I see you've a lot of experience with Vajrayana topics. There is a discussion underway about moving "Ishta-deva (Buddhism) to "yidam"--if you'd care to review the arguments pro and con on the talk page, your input would be appreciated.Sylvain1972 (talk) 14:49, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Two Tattvasamgrahas

Hi B9: I tried to add a disambig page for the two texts named 'Tattvasamgraha' without disturbing your (quite excellent) article on the tantra of that name -- However I was not successful in moving pages to have the proper diacritics; Would you have a look at them? We'll need a different name for the [stubby] article I created dealing with Shantarakshita's TVSG, over and above the diacritics since I think the dab page should be just 'tattvasamgraha' (with diacritics) since that's what people are likely to search on first. Also, I have additional references to add for both which I'll get to shortly -- Thanks!Zero sharp (talk) 22:56, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm quite certain that there are _two_ works named Tattvasamgraha, the tantra and the sgrub-mtha text by Shantarakshita. While I am aware that Shantarakshita was also a tantrika, he is most certainly _not_ the author of the Tattvasamgraha tantra. Zero sharp (talk) 02:25, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

from "The Ornament of the Middle Way: A Study of the Madhyamika Thought of Shantarakshita" by James Blumenthal, Snow Lion Publications, 2004 (pp28-29):

"TS (Tattvasamgraha) is [Shantarakshita's] encyclopedic tenet system siddhAnta, grub mtha') style text which surveys a host of Buddhist and non-Buddhist views, offering criticism of opposing view throughout."

RE: Sentient beings.

This article was cut down because of the consensus reached in the discussion at articles for deletion, which you did not participate in. An edit summary like "extract salient points and footnote, don't undo my scholarly pastiche: there is a grand synthesis unfolding" makes it patently obvious that you are adding your own opinions and original research to the article. Please discontinue this behavior, promoting your religious viewpoints is not the purpose of Wikipedia. Beeblebrox (talk) 14:24, 10 October 2008 (UTC) [reply]

Hello, B9 hummingbird hovering. You have new messages at Beeblebrox's talk page.
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Western world

Hello B9 hummingbird hovering:

This is about your contribution to the "Spiritual" section of the article Western world.

I am not so enamoured of my reading and comprehension skills or so bold as to say that the paragraph in question is incomprehensible.

However, I will say that in my opinion it is insufficiently transparent to be appropriate in the context of a general encyclopedia.

Perhaps as a starting point you would be kind enough to paraphrase "reify the polarity" in more down-to-earth language? Thank you.

Wanderer57 (talk) 20:14, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Paragraph in question ('Spiritual' section of Western world article):

If we reify the polarity of the Occident and Orient, a historical literature review may reveal the attribution of meditative disciplines to the East and prayerful disciplines to the West. Just as the East and West are but arbitrary compass constructions of an all-encompassing Globe, so too are the disciplines of prayer and meditation complimentary, interpenetrating and essentially indivisible. The perpetuation of these cultural and historical misattributions obscures the boundary-permeable manifold experience of individuals and communities that traverse this ill-constructed ideo-geographical binary.

B9 hummingbird hovering^{(talk • contribs)} 13:06, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

self critique: lyrical but not inaccessible...

B9 hummingbird hovering^{(talk • contribs)} 13:11, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Australia membership now open

Hello,

I'm writing to let you know that Wikimedia Australia is now accepting members. Membership is $40/year or $20/year concession. There is no joining fee, only the yearly fee. To read a description of the process, go here: <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Australia/Membership>

The membership form is here: <http://membership.wikimedia.org.au/memberdb/index.php?page=signup> After completing the form and after the committee approves your application, you will receive an email with instructions on how to pay membership fees.

I am writing to you because you have listed yourself at <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Australia> as someone interested in the Wikimedia Australia chapter. If you are not longer interested in WMAU I recommend removing yourself from this page.

If you have any questions or encounter any difficulties in this process please contact me. blaugher@wikimedia.org.au or just reply to this email.

thanks,

Brianna (pfctdayelise (talk) 12:23, 12 November 2008 (UTC)), interim WMAU secretary[reply]

Proposed deletion of Bodhipathapradīpa

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Bodhipathapradīpa, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

Not notable, only 168 google results, of which some are unrelated

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Guy0307 (talk) 01:25, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Original research

You cannot yourself propose a theory as to how the metaphor of water developed, if it did. That is original research. Check out Stream of consciousness (psychology)#Buddhism. Mitsube (talk) 21:59, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Then please quote from him explaining how that quote from the Rig Veda has something to do with Buddhism. Mitsube (talk) 22:07, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The citta sanatana isn't about Buddha Dharma it is about Sanatana Dharma all of which is about the problem of one and many which is to do with the Dharma. I don't need to quote I have cited. Read the book and article. BTW, James developed the concept of stream of consciousness from the mindstream. Read his biographical notes in a million volumes...the stream of consciousness idea developed as a direct result of his immersion within mindstream literature, disciplines (vipashyana, etc.) and contact with the meme.

B9 hummingbird hovering^{(talk • contribs)} 22:22, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Special Barnstar

		The Special Barnstar
		To B9 hummingbird hovering for his splendid contributions to mindstream, which has managed in sheer obscurantism to excel even the great master Herbert V. Günther. – Geronimo20 (talk) 10:55, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your stats

I'm not sure of what you really want for your stats, but have placed three alternatives on your user page. --Geronimo20 (talk) 09:18, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quite a good read, you should check this out

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 I'm not sure of what you really want for your stats, but have placed three alternatives on your user page. --[[User:Geronimo20|Geronimo20]] ([[User talk:Geronimo20|talk]]) 09:18, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
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