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This article needs updated references and a photo would be great. Also the effects on pests section could use some work to blance the admittedly non-NPOV. --Bugguyak 21:36, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article was probably written by someone who works for the company that makes the useless Riddex scam. Certainly reads like it. 24.98.74.149 (talk) 04:06, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Check the original versions, it didn't start out that way. I have tried to restore it to an earlier versionBugguyak (talk) 13:04, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Scientific Studies

I added the link to the results from a Kansas State University study to this article. That appears to be a valid study even if not as extensive as I would like to have found. Based on the Kansas State study I'm am removing claims of “no scientific evidence” because that is clearly not true.

I also added a couple smaller studies. However, those studies were commissioned by the companies that produce the products. While they were independent studies the labs certainly might have had incentive to please the client. Thus while I doubt they are fraudulent they may be slightly skewed to favor the clients interests. If anyone can find more university studies that would be helpful.

Discussion of Effects on Humans?

I am able to hear these devices if in the 15kHZ to 20kHZ range. The piecing, high pitch whine is absolutely unbearable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Firefishy (talk • contribs) 11:53, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why the citation needed bits?

After statements like "there has never been any scientific evidence proving them as effective." is the tag "[citation needed]". This is stupid as you can't have a a citation for evidence that doesn't exist. This sort of tag needs to be after claims, not after claims there is no evidence. Zytheran (talk) 12:17, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). Be WP:bold and edit. Bugguyak (talk) 13:40, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

POV

I'm not good with Wiki, but this seems very PoV:

"One has to wonder whether insects and rodents can even detect these low level electromagnetic fields. Supposedly, it's the fluctuations in the current that drives out these pests but if they can't detect the low level electromagnetic field then they couldn't possibly detect the fluctuations, and even if they could, one needs to question whether or not they are repelled by them."

I agree with the idea, but it seems pretty poorly worded. "One" and "supposedly" just aren't words I see in Wiki much, and seem more like editorializing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.173.254.71 (talk) 03:10, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). Bugguyak (talk) 04:43, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Federal Trade Commission Agreement Limit Claims

The FTC has a consent agreement with one of the more widely advertised device manufacturer limited their claims of effectiveness. That is until there is an creditable scientific evidence that any of their devices work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.29.76 (talk) 18:31, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::Check the original versions, it didn't start out that way. I have tried to restore it to an earlier version[[User:Bugguyak|Bugguyak]] ([[User talk:Bugguyak|talk]]) 13:04, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
+== Scientific Studies ==
+I added the link to the results from a Kansas State University study to this article. That appears to be a valid study even if not as extensive as I would like to have found. Based on the Kansas State study I'm am removing claims of “no scientific evidence” because that is clearly not true.
+I also added a couple smaller studies. However, those studies were commissioned by the companies that produce the products. While they were independent studies the labs certainly might have had incentive to please the client. Thus while I doubt they are fraudulent they may be slightly skewed to favor the clients interests. If anyone can find more university studies that would be helpful.