Talk:Marshall Applewhite

The entry that his spouse was "Louise Linant" is absolutely incorrect. He was not married to his sister. The correct entry would be "Ann P. Nickerson". Source: <<http://www.nytimes.com/1997/04/01/us/for-ex-wife-of-leader-no-wish-for-the-limelight.html>> -XATMO92

Someone should put up that weird picture of him with the "cult-like" eyes on this page as *the* picture for his entry. Anyone who saw the news story at the time would know what I'm talking about.

The picture in this article is terrifying, I think it should be changed. :-\ --72.191.122.214 05:37, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Not rat poison and cyanide. Where it says "He committed suicide with 38 other members in Rancho Santa Fe, California by mixing liquid with rat poisoning and cyanide. " is wrong. The suicide was accomplished by ingestion of phenobarbital (which is a medicine still used to treat certain seizures) mixed with vodka, along with plastic bags secured around their heads to induce asphyxiation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Senhuan (talk • contribs) 01:21, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I wondered about this, since it is inconsistent with the "Heavens Gate" article's description. I didn't know which was right, so I didn't change it. If someone has a good sorce for this, they should change it and cite it. Thanks.

Herff?

If this blurb from the Bonnie Nettles page is to be believed, then this page should be the redirect instead of Herff Applewhite:

"Bonnie Nettles was co-leader of a group with Herff Applewhite, (Herff never went by the name "Marshall" according to friends and family) and became the leader of what turned into the Heaven's Gate cult after Nettles death."

Either that, or the Bonnie Nettles page should be changed to note the un-cited information.

On the other hand, it might make as much sense to link it to Do or Peep. Since any group that commits mass suicide is insane by definition (either they're insane, or we all are, and we outnumber them), perhaps it's just as well that Wikipedia doesn't call the guy by his preferred name. --Robertb-dc 23:52, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Archive of his ramblings

Too lazy/underqualified to post this [1]

Creepy though, his username? Doe. Everybody mocked him.

article not quite right

The news story given as citation 2 says applewhite pretended to his sister that he was in hospital for heart problems, when in fact the admission was psychiatric, there he met Bonnie. The article then repeats that he was admitted for heart problems? Sounds wrong.Merkinsmum 13:41, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Hang on, I always heard he was against the castration, but permitted it as a way of making it easier to abstain from sex.

It says in the article about the Heavens Gate Cult that the members drank vodka and took phenobarbital before putting bags over their heads; the Marshall Applewhite article however states under Heavens Gate Suicide that the members drank liquid and took rat poison and possibly cyanide. Which of these is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.122.0.246 (talk) 21:35, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

The comment about the Level Above Human being equivalent to a mainstream Christian's Heaven is inaccurate. I'm not even sure what the Heaven is that is being referred to ambiguously as mainstream. Regardless, Applewhite clearly describes this Level as both physical and spiritual, in the video at http://www.illuminatiarchives.org/video/heavens-gate-cult-classroom-video-sessions/ Also, why are there so many objectionable phrasings and borderline homophobic language on this discussion? I no longer find the associated page so credible due to language like "was Applewhite a homo?". Dylan Hunt (talk) 23:43, 26 January 2009 (UTC)Dylan Hunt

Rewrite

I've cleaned this article up considerably (grammar, redundancy, etc.) but it still does not sound all that great. If someone has the time and energy, I think it needs to be rewritten. --Prewitt81 18:43, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Applewhite in Salzburg.

How could he be sent to Salzburg, Austria, while in military service, if Austria is a neutral and not NATO country. There should be none american military stationing there like for exemple in Germany. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.11.49.236 (talk) 23:36, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

After his service was up?

The article states: "After his service was up, Applewhite became a college teacher." What does "After his service was up" mean? Religious service? No mention of any service precedes this sentence. Have I run into a Wikipedia Americanism?Alpheus (talk) 09:31, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Did you see the section on military service? He served in the military and was, according to his sister, Honourably Discharged at the rank of Sergeant after being discovered having a homosexual relationship with a student. Icemotoboy (talk) 04:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Applewhite homo?

Was Applewhite homosexual? I think I recall reading that somewhere when the Heaven's Gate thing occurred. Didn't he lose a job because he got caught with a boy? I think including this would go a long way to help understanding Applewhite (why he had himself castrated, etc). Was he a self-loathing homosexual? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.153.188 (talk) 19:25, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I was always under the impression that he was gay too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.185.238.74 (talk) 20:00, 12 May 2009 (UTC)