Talk:Legal drinking age

1. This page seems to have low traffic. Do not agree with the autoarchiving. That is a bad practice. --Okay, I have removed the autoarchiving. I do think you should signed your comment though. --Eddie ^{(talk/contribs)} 23:14, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

2. I think there are some minor US areas where drinking is allowed. Select military bases (used to be all, now some). Also many Indian reservations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TCO (talk • contribs) 01:52, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

3. The reference for Ukraine's drinking age states that the age limit is 18 in both categories, but on this page it says 21. I think there was a transcribing error. It should read 18. --Pomchuk ^{(talk/contribs)} 10:46, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

4. In what sense is the drinking age 5 in the UK if it is impossible to supply alcohol to anyone under 16? Doesn't this simply mean that anyone who supplies alcohol to under-fives faces an additional child abuse charge? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.151.218.137 (talk) 10:19, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

In England & Wales (not sure about Scotland or N.I.) parents and guardians may supply alcohol to over 5s (ie wine diluted with water at Sunday lunch). Geoccountant (talk) 01:50, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

New Discussion

A discussion has been started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries/Lists of countries which could affect the inclusion criteria and title of this and other lists of countries. Editors are invited to participate. Pfainuk talk 12:25, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Switzerland

The Swiss canton of Tessin / Ticino raised the age to 18 for all alcoholic beverages.[1] One article I came across claims that Zug raised the age to 18 as well.[2] I had been unaware of that prior to my quick research for this post. The supermarket chain Coop has since instituted a new policy, according to which the sale of all alcoholic beverages to individuals under the age of 18 is forbidden.[3] Coop is one of the largest chains of grocery stores in the country and the only "mainstream" one which sells alcoholic beverages (Migros owns Denner, but Denner is considered a discounter).--Ami in CH (talk) 22:58, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

List or article?

This ain't really an article unless the background of this concept can be expanded; otherwise this is nothing but a list. I know for sure that the U.S. government ordered states to set a legal drinking age or lose highway construction funding. However, I'm not too sure about other countries; since Wikipedia needs a "worldwide view" for such global concepts as this obviously is I'm gonna need some help here. Thanks. (It seems that the International Center for Alcohol Policies site is pretty helpful in this topic.)--Andrewlp1991 (talk) 06:36, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Tunisia

Somebody add it to the Africa section, it's 21. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.227.200.82 (talk) 07:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Germany

What is the basis for the drinking age in Germany? I am aware only of a legal purchase age, not of a legal drinking age (e.g. at home). There isn't even an explanation of the difference between "drinking age" and "purchase age". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.184.236.202 (talk) 16:00, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

The basis is the german law (which is referenced). The "drinking" is in place for public places such as bars (basically the owner must not allow minors to consume the drinks there, even if he didn't sell them). As it already stated in the notes column, drinking in private is not controlled. Averell (talk) 13:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism/Protection

This article is frequently changed by people who just change the numbers. It's almost impossible to tell if it's vandalism or a good-faith edit, without looking up the respective source each time (which nobody is going to do in the long run), and when you do the edit is most likely false.

I'm considering to ask for protection of this page, or maybe we can just agree to automatically revert this kind of change if it wasn't discussed on this page first... Averell (talk) 13:19, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

France

France has raised its drinking age to 18 for all types of beverages on the 9th of March 2009. Could someone please correct this on the page. Thank you (Commodorespyke (talk) 11:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC))

Spain

I'm sure in Spain the law is 16 for beers, alcopops, wines and ciders, and 18 for anything stronger/spirits?? Can anyone confirm..? Dvmedis (talk) 14:21, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Is 18 for everithin(im spanish and the las year i was 17 XD so i yhink that i am a well knower of the spanish alcohol laws), from beer and cider to vodka ans absent,i cnt change it, please change it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.87.12.210 (talk) 13:59, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Romania Note

The note to Romania kind of needs a citation. In my area of Canada many minors buy alcohol and no one IDs but it doesn't mean the entire country doesn't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.30.148.240 (talk) 07:07, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Requested map

A map similar to the one shown here (full) would greatly improve this article. Or maybe a different map for each regional section of the article. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 23:03, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Papua New Guinea

The article has the drinking age listed as 37

this does not seem right. other sources online indicate that the age is 18 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.29.59.91 (talk) 23:42, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

United Kingdom - Perry

Isn't Perry also allowed with a meal?

I think also you can be served alcohol below the age of five when on a train. Just a loophole in the licensing laws for trains, I guess. SimonTrew (talk) 01:48, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Armenia age 21?

Wikipedia is the only place on the 'net that states that Armenia's drinking age is 21, with the exception of other sites that source Wikipedia. The source mentioned for Armenia's drinking age was ICAP, but they simply do not have a record for Armenia in their table of drinking ages for different countries. I have replaced the ICAP citation with a "citation needed" and will adjust the age to "no drinking age" (as other sources confirm) in a few days if nobody finds a source for the 21 year claim. Djbob (talk) 22:25, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Belgium

Someone added Belgium to the Africa list. I fixed it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.22.192.124 (talk) 12:28, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Ireland

The article says that the drinking age is 12, when I am pretty sure it is 18. Also the reference provided is fake. Can anyone confirm? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.168.28.14 (talk) 12:01, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Map

There are some issues with the map. First of all, Norway and Finland are 18 for beer and wine, 20 for hard liquor. Sweden is 18 to drink in a bar, 20 for off-sales of anything 3.5% ABV or higher (18 for weaker beers). So all 3 should be shown as 18, not 20. Iceland is the only Scandinavian country that is a "hard" 20. Secondly, India is 18 in 3 states, 25 in one state, illegal in 3 states, and 21 in the rest (not like it is enforced anyway).Ajax151 (talk) 23:40, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Africa and the Middle East? geographic divisons seem off

It seems several of the countries in the "Africa and the Middle East" should be elsewhere. #1 - Cyprus is here, but Turkey is in Europe??? (Aside: the bulk of Turkey is, geographically, in Asia). I think Cyprus should definitely move to Europe, and Turkey should probably move to Asia but I can see leaving it in Europe for consistency with Cyprus. #2 - Saudi Arabia is listed here and in Asia; other countries on the Arabian Peninsula are listed only in Asia. I think it should be listed only in Asia. #3 - Lebanon is here, but its neighbors Jordan & Israel are in Asia?? I think Lebanon should also be moved to Asia. Frankly I think this category should just be renamed Africa because "the Middle East" is not a continent.

Any thoughts?

Northern Ireland

Northern Ireland should have a seperate tab in the european list as the United Kingdom laws are stipulated for England Scotland and Wales. Northern irish law is similar but has differences from what i know!