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:There's no UNDUE issue for something that has been weighed in the media more than any other aspect of her life. '''- A'''LLST'''✰'''R<span class="Unicode" style="color:#FF72E3;">▼</span>'''<sup>[[User talk:Allstarecho|echo]]</sup>''' <sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Allstarecho|wuz here]] '''</sub> 18:48, 30 July 2009 (UTC) |
:There's no UNDUE issue for something that has been weighed in the media more than any other aspect of her life. '''- A'''LLST'''✰'''R<span class="Unicode" style="color:#FF72E3;">▼</span>'''<sup>[[User talk:Allstarecho|echo]]</sup>''' <sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Allstarecho|wuz here]] '''</sub> 18:48, 30 July 2009 (UTC) |
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::I remind you to avoid recentism, ethnocentric biases, etc. I assure you, within her milieu as a Singaporean legislator and legal scholar, this mess at a school few people outside the US have heard of over a year's visiting is quite likely to be insignificant. [[WP:NOT#NEWS]] also applies -- although, if you are arguing that this has lots more media attention, why is so much of the section sourced only to blogs? Wikipedia is not weighted w.r.t the passing passions of the media or bloggers in the US, but with respect to enduring encyclopedic information of historical value. <strong>[[User:RayAYang|<span style="font-family:Script MT Bold;color:DarkRed">Ray</span>]]</strong>[[User_talk:RayAYang|<sup><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span></sup>]] 20:40, 30 July 2009 (UTC) |
::I remind you to avoid recentism, ethnocentric biases, etc. I assure you, within her milieu as a Singaporean legislator and legal scholar, this mess at a school few people outside the US have heard of over a year's visiting is quite likely to be insignificant. [[WP:NOT#NEWS]] also applies -- although, if you are arguing that this has lots more media attention, why is so much of the section sourced only to blogs? Wikipedia is not weighted w.r.t the passing passions of the media or bloggers in the US, but with respect to enduring encyclopedic information of historical value. <strong>[[User:RayAYang|<span style="font-family:Script MT Bold;color:DarkRed">Ray</span>]]</strong>[[User_talk:RayAYang|<sup><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span></sup>]] 20:40, 30 July 2009 (UTC) |
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::: Excellent example for [[WP:RECENTISM]] and for the systematic bias of Wikipedia. A short burst of news in mainly one country, here the US, does not mean the article should excessively concentrate on one controversy only. Even ignoring this, looking at the [http://news.google.com/archivesearch?um=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=%22Thio+Li-ann%22&cf=all Google News timeline] shows that most of the media attention she has received was prior to this incident, which seems to make waves mainly on blogs and is rarely mentioned by mainstream media. [[Special:Contributions/76.117.1.254|76.117.1.254]] ([[User talk:76.117.1.254|talk]]) 21:52, 30 July 2009 (UTC) |
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Quotefarm on the NYU hiring business
So far, I have not heard any rebuttal to my position that massive quotes are an example of WP:UNDUE. Dr. Thio is a major academic, and a significant legislator. So far, our section on the NYU hiring controversy exceeds both of the sections describing her careers in length, quotes excessively from press releases, and relies on blogs such as above the law for sourcing, to boot. RayTalk 17:51, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
- There's no UNDUE issue for something that has been weighed in the media more than any other aspect of her life. - ALLST✰R▼echo wuz here 18:48, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
- I remind you to avoid recentism, ethnocentric biases, etc. I assure you, within her milieu as a Singaporean legislator and legal scholar, this mess at a school few people outside the US have heard of over a year's visiting is quite likely to be insignificant. WP:NOT#NEWS also applies -- although, if you are arguing that this has lots more media attention, why is so much of the section sourced only to blogs? Wikipedia is not weighted w.r.t the passing passions of the media or bloggers in the US, but with respect to enduring encyclopedic information of historical value. RayTalk 20:40, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
- Excellent example for WP:RECENTISM and for the systematic bias of Wikipedia. A short burst of news in mainly one country, here the US, does not mean the article should excessively concentrate on one controversy only. Even ignoring this, looking at the Google News timeline shows that most of the media attention she has received was prior to this incident, which seems to make waves mainly on blogs and is rarely mentioned by mainstream media. 76.117.1.254 (talk) 21:52, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
- I remind you to avoid recentism, ethnocentric biases, etc. I assure you, within her milieu as a Singaporean legislator and legal scholar, this mess at a school few people outside the US have heard of over a year's visiting is quite likely to be insignificant. WP:NOT#NEWS also applies -- although, if you are arguing that this has lots more media attention, why is so much of the section sourced only to blogs? Wikipedia is not weighted w.r.t the passing passions of the media or bloggers in the US, but with respect to enduring encyclopedic information of historical value. RayTalk 20:40, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
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